K&N Pod Filter

Peanut_EOD · October 25th, 2012, 09:49 PM

I ordered a K&N pod filter R-0990, the same one used on the Ninja 250, on a hunch. I had a feeling that it would fit on the 300 and I knew most people wouldn't just order one for testing.
Today I decided try the new filter since I needed to change the oil and I would already be in the garage. I removed all of the bodywork except for the headlight shroud. Then I removed the undertail. As i started removing the airbox I noticed a sensor on top that isn't there on the 250 airbox. I took the sensor off the box and it looks like an intake temperature sensor. I test fitted the pod filter and suspicion confirmed. It fits perfectly. I used a drill bit slightly smaller than the probe on the sensor and drilled a hole in the upper left of the filter cap. then I used a very small drillbit to make hole for the screw to keep the sensor in place.
I still need to get a small filter for the crank case ventilation and some more oil before I even start it.

It was snowing today so I have no idea if there are any issues with it, but now you know so you can pick up where I left off if you are in a more tempered climate than Denver.

Cell phone pic.

choneofakind · October 25th, 2012, 09:52 PM

Nice work peanut.

Jiggles · October 25th, 2012, 09:53 PM

Congratulations on your new, very lean running 300!

Any plans to reflash the ECU?

choneofakind · October 25th, 2012, 09:56 PM

Oh Jiggles...

Jiggles · October 25th, 2012, 09:57 PM

Yes Chodette?

choneofakind · October 25th, 2012, 09:59 PM

He lives in colorado and mentioned that there was snow. The bike won't be ridden. He also appears to be making it ready for track riding/fun riding. I'm guessing one of those steps will be a way of changing the fuel map.

Of all people to lecture about changing their fueling, you chose a track guy who already knows about it? dude.

Peanut_EOD · October 25th, 2012, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

He lives in colorado and mentioned that there was snow. The bike won't be ridden. He also appears to be making it ready for track riding/fun riding. I'm guessing one of those steps will be a way of changing the fuel map.

Of all people to lecture about changing their fueling, you chose a track guy who already knows about it? dude.

Jiggles · October 25th, 2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

He lives in colorado and mentioned that there was snow. The bike won't be ridden. He also appears to be making it ready for track riding/fun riding. I'm guessing one of those steps will be a way of changing the fuel map.

Of all people to lecture about changing their fueling, you chose a track guy who already knows about it? dude.

I asked a question, why are you being such a dick, I mean chode

Peanut_EOD · October 25th, 2012, 10:25 PM

To answer your question, yes. I will eventually put a power commander and custom tune along with a full exhaust on it.

Jiggles · October 25th, 2012, 10:33 PM

Cool beans

Area P right?

Peanut_EOD · October 25th, 2012, 10:44 PM

Nope. I'm sponsored by Leo Vince.

Jiggles · October 25th, 2012, 10:45 PM

Ah well, free is better

00NissanNinja · October 25th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Looks good, nice work

I am sad the snow has come a little early this year. Might be a snowy winter this year, which sucks.

Peanut_EOD · October 25th, 2012, 10:55 PM

That's why I'll be racing in California in a couple weeks.

00NissanNinja · October 25th, 2012, 10:58 PM

oh rub it in

lol. Good luck racing out there!

JBinSD · October 29th, 2012, 06:51 PM

Hey Peanut, did you talk w/ Jay @ CVMA re racing the 300 in ULWS? He told me they were planning on amending rulebook to allow 300s, but it hadn't been done yet

Just checking, I'll probably be bring my mostly stock 300 for Fri, and mebbe ULWS, but I haven't even put 50 miles on mine yet, kinda a hard break-in to go right to racing.

Peanut_EOD · October 29th, 2012, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBinSD

Hey Peanut, did you talk w/ Jay @ CVMA re racing the 300 in ULWS? He told me they were planning on amending rulebook to allow 300s, but it hadn't been done yet

Just checking, I'll probably be bring my mostly stock 300 for Fri, and mebbe ULWS, but I haven't even put 50 miles on mine yet, kinda a hard break-in to go right to racing.

No, my 300 won't be making this trip. I'm bringing my 250 and a couple of the other guys 250's from MRA. I raced 250's with CVMA last year and was horrible. Hopefully I've improved. I can't wait to race with the CVMA 250 guys again. I also am excited to see a large 250 grid at Chuckwalla. Last year it was just me, Steve, Jonny and Cheeks.

beazy411 · November 15th, 2012, 06:58 PM

K&N's site now shows that the same filter from the 250 works on the 300. Link is below. Has anyone figured out if the stock ECU can compensate for the difference in airflow?

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=KA-2508

Jiggles · November 15th, 2012, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beazy411

K&N's site now shows that the same filter from the 250 works on the 300. Link is below. Has anyone figured out if the stock ECU can compensate for the difference in airflow?

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=KA-2508

I highly doubt it can, the k&n is a massive increase in airflow

choneofakind · November 15th, 2012, 07:57 PM

Sean, beazy linked to the K&N that goes in the airbox, not the R-0990 that deletes the airbox. I know nothing about how those perform.

Jiggles · November 15th, 2012, 08:11 PM

**** k&n needs new names! That will flow more air but I can't imagine it would be that significant. Still, I wouldn't stray from stock without retuning the ECU. I mean seriously, what is the point?

beazy411 · November 15th, 2012, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

**** k&n needs new names! That will flow more air but I can't imagine it would be that significant. Still, I wouldn't stray from stock without retuning the ECU. I mean seriously, what is the point?

Sorry about the confusion on that. I'd imagine that since its already been confirmed that the pod style fits that they'll add the 300 onto the list of supported bikes soon. You are right though, since the stock ecu can't compensate for the change in airflow it's almost pointless to switch out the filters. Don't most factory tunes run a little lean to begin with? I know it was on my truck when I got it tuned this past summer.
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choneofakind · November 15th, 2012, 08:29 PM

I would assume it's flirting with lean in the midrange for mileage and it's fine up top.

*assumption based on how Kawi tuned their carbs, and Kerry from AP saying that there was lot's of space for improvement, similar to the carbs*

Jiggles · November 15th, 2012, 08:35 PM

^ good assumption

October 25th, 2012, 09:49 PM	#1
Peanut_EOD ninjette.org sage Name: Peanut Location: Senoia, GA Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Green 2013 ZX-6R Posts: 723	K&N Pod Filter I ordered a K&N pod filter R-0990, the same one used on the Ninja 250, on a hunch. I had a feeling that it would fit on the 300 and I knew most people wouldn't just order one for testing. Today I decided try the new filter since I needed to change the oil and I would already be in the garage. I removed all of the bodywork except for the headlight shroud. Then I removed the undertail. As i started removing the airbox I noticed a sensor on top that isn't there on the 250 airbox. I took the sensor off the box and it looks like an intake temperature sensor. I test fitted the pod filter and suspicion confirmed. It fits perfectly. I used a drill bit slightly smaller than the probe on the sensor and drilled a hole in the upper left of the filter cap. then I used a very small drillbit to make hole for the screw to keep the sensor in place. I still need to get a small filter for the crank case ventilation and some more oil before I even start it. It was snowing today so I have no idea if there are any issues with it, but now you know so you can pick up where I left off if you are in a more tempered climate than Denver. Cell phone pic. __________________________________________________ http://www.simplysurrealphotography....es/peanut2.png

October 25th, 2012, 09:53 PM	#3
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Congratulations on your new, very lean running 300! Any plans to reflash the ECU? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 25th, 2012, 09:57 PM	#5
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Yes Chodette? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 25th, 2012, 10:25 PM	#9
Peanut_EOD ninjette.org sage Name: Peanut Location: Senoia, GA Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Green 2013 ZX-6R Posts: 723	To answer your question, yes. I will eventually put a power commander and custom tune along with a full exhaust on it. __________________________________________________ http://www.simplysurrealphotography....es/peanut2.png

October 25th, 2012, 10:33 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Cool beans Area P right? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 25th, 2012, 09:52 PM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Nice work peanut.

October 25th, 2012, 09:56 PM	#4
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Oh Jiggles...

October 25th, 2012, 09:59 PM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	He lives in colorado and mentioned that there was snow. The bike won't be ridden. He also appears to be making it ready for track riding/fun riding. I'm guessing one of those steps will be a way of changing the fuel map. Of all people to lecture about changing their fueling, you chose a track guy who already knows about it? dude.

October 25th, 2012, 10:44 PM	#11
Peanut_EOD ninjette.org sage Name: Peanut Location: Senoia, GA Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Green 2013 ZX-6R Posts: 723	Nope. I'm sponsored by Leo Vince. __________________________________________________ http://www.simplysurrealphotography....es/peanut2.png

October 25th, 2012, 10:45 PM	#12
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Ah well, free is better __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 25th, 2012, 10:51 PM	#13
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Looks good, nice work I am sad the snow has come a little early this year. Might be a snowy winter this year, which sucks. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

October 25th, 2012, 10:55 PM	#14
Peanut_EOD ninjette.org sage Name: Peanut Location: Senoia, GA Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Green 2013 ZX-6R Posts: 723	That's why I'll be racing in California in a couple weeks. __________________________________________________ http://www.simplysurrealphotography....es/peanut2.png

October 25th, 2012, 10:58 PM	#15
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	oh rub it in lol. Good luck racing out there! __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

October 29th, 2012, 06:51 PM	#16
JBinSD ninjette.org guru Name: Joel Location: Sandy Eggo north Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300, '99 SV650 tracked Posts: 378	Hey Peanut, did you talk w/ Jay @ CVMA re racing the 300 in ULWS? He told me they were planning on amending rulebook to allow 300s, but it hadn't been done yet Just checking, I'll probably be bring my mostly stock 300 for Fri, and mebbe ULWS, but I haven't even put 50 miles on mine yet, kinda a hard break-in to go right to racing.

November 15th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#18
beazy411 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: New Orleans Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 159	K&N's site now shows that the same filter from the 250 works on the 300. Link is below. Has anyone figured out if the stock ECU can compensate for the difference in airflow? http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=KA-2508 __________________________________________________ ~B.

November 15th, 2012, 07:57 PM	#20
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Sean, beazy linked to the K&N that goes in the airbox, not the R-0990 that deletes the airbox. I know nothing about how those perform.

November 15th, 2012, 08:11 PM	#21
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	**** k&n needs new names! That will flow more air but I can't imagine it would be that significant. Still, I wouldn't stray from stock without retuning the ECU. I mean seriously, what is the point? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 15th, 2012, 08:29 PM	#23
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I would assume it's flirting with lean in the midrange for mileage and it's fine up top. assumption based on how Kawi tuned their carbs, and Kerry from AP saying that there was lot's of space for improvement, similar to the carbs

November 15th, 2012, 08:35 PM	#24
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	^ good assumption __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

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