K&N Pod filter

mwirrick · January 6th, 2014, 07:22 PM

I've recently removed the air box from my race bike (wow, so much room to move around in now!), but installing the K&N pod filter (oval shaped with two intake ports that match the stock carb pretty well) has me a wondering if the lack of support the carb now has--since the air box is gone--could be a problem. Its pretty much just hanging on the rubber intake runners as it sits now. That doesn't seem ideal. Any thoughts out there? I can pretty easily put some zip ties here and there to help support it, but that will look a little tacky, to say the least. And I am not sure that will be sufficient. Hate for the thing to fall off mid race! Thanks.

TnNinjaGirl · January 6th, 2014, 09:03 PM

I zip tied my to the frame and it pulled them off of the motor. I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start and everyone laughed at me. I didn't zip tie the filter to anything and it stayed on for over 14,000 miles.

DCMoney · January 7th, 2014, 07:44 AM

I safety wired mine to a hard part on the carb...

I was not comfortable with the pods just hanging there at all.

Will post a picture later.

choneofakind · January 7th, 2014, 08:04 AM

Quite a few members have used zipties (or something similar) to secure their carbs and/or pod filter to the frame. Same reasoning as you.

If it makes you feel better, go for it. If you don't want to worry about it, it's not necessary. 6000+ miles on mine with the carbs/filter just dangling and no problems yet.

mwirrick · January 7th, 2014, 09:51 PM

Thanks for the quick responses. Not sure how I will proceed, but good to know others have had the same thoughts. I can see how zip ties could pull the filter off, but leaving it hanging on the rubber intake tubes concerns me, too. Will probably try both approaches and see how things go. Thanks again.
MW

Alex · January 10th, 2014, 12:15 PM

I thought some race orgs required the stock airbox in place?

DCMoney · January 10th, 2014, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I thought some race orgs required the stock airbox in place?

Some do, ours doesn't.

csmith12 · January 10th, 2014, 12:19 PM

Some race orgs in our (Mike and I) area have a "gentleman's" ruleset. It's basically, supersport rules or "as long as your not cheating to bad". lol

DCMoney · January 10th, 2014, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Some race orgs in our (Mike and I) area have a "gentleman's" ruleset. It's basically, supersport rules or "as long as your not cheating to bad". lol

Last season sure, this season not so much.

Link

Quote:

ninja 250
unmodified engine
unmodified oem carburetor body
unmodified oem ecu
oem fork externals must be used
oem swing arm must be used, can add spools shark fin etc
17'' stock wheels must be used. gen 1 ninja 250 may upgrade from 16'' front wheel to 17'' wheel as long as it is as close to stock weight as possible
pump gas

anything not listed above may be changed or modified

csmith12 · January 10th, 2014, 12:28 PM

The airbox is not on that list, so I would assume it can be changed as pods can be attached to a stock carb body. Am I missing something?

csmith12 · January 10th, 2014, 12:29 PM

Nevermind, I follow you now. See ya in April!

DCMoney · January 10th, 2014, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Nevermind, I follow you now. See ya in April!

Yeah, no more gentleman's agreement if you have a few hours to waste should read through the 250 threads on that forum....

csmith12 · January 10th, 2014, 01:23 PM

Will do, thanks for the heads up. Since I plan on doing the races, I should keep up with things.

mwirrick · January 10th, 2014, 05:57 PM

Midwest Cafe Racing Association (MCRA) allows removal of the air box this year. So does the CMRA (Texas based organization). Not sure about WERA. As was said, some outfits allow it, some don't. Sure does free up a lot of space and make things easier to get to!

January 6th, 2014, 07:22 PM	#1
mwirrick ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Ofallon, MO Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, Concours, 2009 FZ1, 2007 BMW G650X Challenge, 1997 Ducati 900SS, SP Posts: 36	K&N Pod filter I've recently removed the air box from my race bike (wow, so much room to move around in now!), but installing the K&N pod filter (oval shaped with two intake ports that match the stock carb pretty well) has me a wondering if the lack of support the carb now has--since the air box is gone--could be a problem. Its pretty much just hanging on the rubber intake runners as it sits now. That doesn't seem ideal. Any thoughts out there? I can pretty easily put some zip ties here and there to help support it, but that will look a little tacky, to say the least. And I am not sure that will be sufficient. Hate for the thing to fall off mid race! Thanks. __________________________________________________ Mike -Less is More Racing, Inc.

January 7th, 2014, 07:44 AM	#3
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	I safety wired mine to a hard part on the carb... I was not comfortable with the pods just hanging there at all. Will post a picture later. __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

January 7th, 2014, 09:51 PM	#5
mwirrick ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Ofallon, MO Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, Concours, 2009 FZ1, 2007 BMW G650X Challenge, 1997 Ducati 900SS, SP Posts: 36	Thanks for the quick responses. Not sure how I will proceed, but good to know others have had the same thoughts. I can see how zip ties could pull the filter off, but leaving it hanging on the rubber intake tubes concerns me, too. Will probably try both approaches and see how things go. Thanks again. MW __________________________________________________ Mike -Less is More Racing, Inc.

January 10th, 2014, 12:15 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I thought some race orgs required the stock airbox in place? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

January 10th, 2014, 12:19 PM	#8
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Some race orgs in our (Mike and I) area have a "gentleman's" ruleset. It's basically, supersport rules or "as long as your not cheating to bad". lol __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 6th, 2014, 09:03 PM	#2
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	I zip tied my to the frame and it pulled them off of the motor. I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start and everyone laughed at me. I didn't zip tie the filter to anything and it stayed on for over 14,000 miles.

January 7th, 2014, 08:04 AM	#4
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Quite a few members have used zipties (or something similar) to secure their carbs and/or pod filter to the frame. Same reasoning as you. If it makes you feel better, go for it. If you don't want to worry about it, it's not necessary. 6000+ miles on mine with the carbs/filter just dangling and no problems yet.

January 10th, 2014, 12:28 PM	#10
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	The airbox is not on that list, so I would assume it can be changed as pods can be attached to a stock carb body. Am I missing something? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 10th, 2014, 12:29 PM	#11
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Nevermind, I follow you now. See ya in April! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 10th, 2014, 01:23 PM	#13
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Will do, thanks for the heads up. Since I plan on doing the races, I should keep up with things. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 10th, 2014, 05:57 PM	#14
mwirrick ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Ofallon, MO Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, Concours, 2009 FZ1, 2007 BMW G650X Challenge, 1997 Ducati 900SS, SP Posts: 36	Midwest Cafe Racing Association (MCRA) allows removal of the air box this year. So does the CMRA (Texas based organization). Not sure about WERA. As was said, some outfits allow it, some don't. Sure does free up a lot of space and make things easier to get to! __________________________________________________ Mike -Less is More Racing, Inc.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
BNIB K&N pod filter	cuong-nutz	Motorcycle-related	5	September 17th, 2013 12:27 PM
K&N Pod Filter	Peanut_EOD	2013 - 2017 Ninja 300 Tech Talk	23	November 15th, 2012 08:35 PM
K&N Pod Filter with Stock Exhaust?	krolinked	2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk	3	August 6th, 2012 07:47 PM
guys w/pod filter &or slip on	cuz	2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk	9	September 6th, 2011 05:24 AM
K&N Filter or Pod	jonthechron	2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk	6	February 17th, 2010 12:07 PM