How Screwed is this Tire?

nickjpass · September 12th, 2014, 10:53 AM

Just want more opinions. I'm definitely changing it before the track, but want to commute on this tire before then. This is the best photo I have.

The only damage is what you see there. I know what I did wrong and as soon as i figured it out the tire basically slipped on...

The metal band is not damaged but I'm worried...

BlownWideOpen · September 12th, 2014, 10:54 AM

You dun goofed

nickjpass · September 12th, 2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlownWideOpen

You dun goofed

thanks.

BlownWideOpen · September 12th, 2014, 10:58 AM

nickjpass · September 12th, 2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlownWideOpen

Your name. "Blownwideopen" I don't want that to happen to my tire

i don't want to end up here https://www.ninjette.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40

subxero · September 12th, 2014, 11:10 AM

no one can say for certain. Any respectable tire manufacture or shop would advise you to change it because they would not want to risk being held accountable if they told you, sure it is gtg then something does happen.

Now the real question is, will you trust what some stranger on the internet has to say, who will see no repercussions for what happens either way or do the smart thing?

JMO

Sirref · September 12th, 2014, 11:13 AM

I'd let it sit and see if it loses air over 2-3 days, if it doesn't it's probably good to go if it does then it's time for a new tire

BlownWideOpen · September 12th, 2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

Your name. "Blownwideopen" I don't want that to happen to my tire

i don't want to end up here https://www.ninjette.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40

I'd scrap it, if you were on fours I'd say give it a go... but not in this case.

CajunNinjaR · September 12th, 2014, 11:16 AM

I don't think it will hold air for long, I did that when installing a new tire on my VW and it would go flat every two days, fix a flat would help it hold a week maybe. If it does air up and hold, I don't see why you couldn't ride it, but I would risk it. A flat on a bike is super inconvenient. Not to mention it could lead to a crash if it losses pressure wile riding.
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subxero · September 12th, 2014, 11:23 AM

It would seem some people are implying that if a tire holds air while the motorcycle is sitting in your garage that also means it is capable of dealing with the added stress of riding

alex.s · September 12th, 2014, 11:23 AM

if it was the front tire i would say don't take the chance... but the rear?... what i would do is take a tire repair kit and take the rubber cement and smear it all between the bead and the rubber and clamp it down loosely then put it on and see if it leaks. if it doesn't, it's probably fine. but just remember theres a higher chance of it disintegrating mid-corner than a normal tire

Sirref · September 12th, 2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by subxero

It would seem some people are implying that if a tire holds air while the motorcycle is sitting in your garage that also means it is capable of dealing with the added stress of riding

if it doesn't then there's no chance that it will. if it does then you can try it and see if it holds air when riding, especially if you use a tire repair kit like alex.s suggested

jdeuel · September 12th, 2014, 12:01 PM

You might be able to ride on that, and you might be able to take out your own appendix, too. Neither is worth the downside potential.

Desmoluci · September 12th, 2014, 04:58 PM

If you have to ask, you already know the answer. :shrugs:

Asspire · September 12th, 2014, 06:59 PM

hard to see from the pic, but to me it looks like the bead is cut, if so, you need a new tire. don't try to ride on it.

Also, tires never go bad on a R6.......

Finesse · September 12th, 2014, 07:31 PM

Spray some soapy water around the seat of the tire where it meets the rim, the whole way around, and watch for bubbles to see if there's a leak.

Looks pretty screwed though. Better to have a $100 mistake than a crash.

Ducati999 · September 13th, 2014, 09:28 AM

I would have to agree with most of the posts above. $100 for a new tire is way cheaper the repairs and/or Drs bills. The decision comes down to: what risk are you willing to take?

choneofakind · September 13th, 2014, 09:41 AM

So what did you do? Damage the metal bead? Or just damage the rubber around the bead? can't really tell tbh.

I'm not giving advice here. Liability and I'm not an authority on the subject. If it were me, I'd just replace it with a good tire and use that one as a place to put the tank when it's off for service. Or put it on a boat as a bumper, or something like that.

nickjpass · September 13th, 2014, 07:15 PM

The band wasnt damaged. See op

choneofakind · September 13th, 2014, 09:44 PM

I did see the op... That's why I was asking for clarification. Your picture is all thumb. I know you said 'the metal band is not damaged' but I'm more interested in seeing it myself.

Just replace it and call it a learning experience

September 12th, 2014, 10:53 AM	#1
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	How Screwed is this Tire? Just want more opinions. I'm definitely changing it before the track, but want to commute on this tire before then. This is the best photo I have. The only damage is what you see there. I know what I did wrong and as soon as i figured it out the tire basically slipped on... The metal band is not damaged but I'm worried... __________________________________________________

September 12th, 2014, 10:54 AM	#2
BlownWideOpen ninjette.org guru Name: Artie Location: Canada Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Stuff Posts: 284	You dun goofed __________________________________________________ Paint side up, rubber side down!

September 12th, 2014, 10:58 AM	#4
BlownWideOpen ninjette.org guru Name: Artie Location: Canada Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Stuff Posts: 284	__________________________________________________ Paint side up, rubber side down!

September 12th, 2014, 11:10 AM	#6
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	no one can say for certain. Any respectable tire manufacture or shop would advise you to change it because they would not want to risk being held accountable if they told you, sure it is gtg then something does happen. Now the real question is, will you trust what some stranger on the internet has to say, who will see no repercussions for what happens either way or do the smart thing? JMO __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.
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September 12th, 2014, 11:13 AM	#7
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I'd let it sit and see if it loses air over 2-3 days, if it doesn't it's probably good to go if it does then it's time for a new tire __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

September 12th, 2014, 11:16 AM	#9
CajunNinjaR ninjette coonass Name: Joshua Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250, 06 wr450f, x15 110, tiny 50 Posts: 30	I don't think it will hold air for long, I did that when installing a new tire on my VW and it would go flat every two days, fix a flat would help it hold a week maybe. If it does air up and hold, I don't see why you couldn't ride it, but I would risk it. A flat on a bike is super inconvenient. Not to mention it could lead to a crash if it losses pressure wile riding. Posted via Mobile Device

September 12th, 2014, 11:23 AM	#10
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	It would seem some people are implying that if a tire holds air while the motorcycle is sitting in your garage that also means it is capable of dealing with the added stress of riding __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

September 12th, 2014, 11:23 AM	#11
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	if it was the front tire i would say don't take the chance... but the rear?... what i would do is take a tire repair kit and take the rubber cement and smear it all between the bead and the rubber and clamp it down loosely then put it on and see if it leaks. if it doesn't, it's probably fine. but just remember theres a higher chance of it disintegrating mid-corner than a normal tire __________________________________________________

September 12th, 2014, 12:01 PM	#13
jdeuel ninjette.org member Name: Jeff Location: Alamo Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): '86 FJ1200, 07 250 Ninja Posts: 12	You might be able to ride on that, and you might be able to take out your own appendix, too. Neither is worth the downside potential.

September 12th, 2014, 04:58 PM	#14
Desmoluci Threadkiller Name: Mick Location: Monongahela, Pa. Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Yellow '04 stocker, '89 FJ1200, '87 Ducati Paso, '71 Yamaha XS1b, '99 KLR650, '81 FXE 80, '97 KTM 200EXC , etc Posts: 430	If you have to ask, you already know the answer. :shrugs: __________________________________________________ Advantages are taken, not handed out. MSF 138637
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September 12th, 2014, 06:59 PM	#15
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	hard to see from the pic, but to me it looks like the bead is cut, if so, you need a new tire. don't try to ride on it. Also, tires never go bad on a R6.......

September 12th, 2014, 07:31 PM	#16
Finesse ran when parked Name: Katie Location: DC/MD Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Freeride 250R, KLX250SF, mopeds Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '17, Dec '14	Spray some soapy water around the seat of the tire where it meets the rim, the whole way around, and watch for bubbles to see if there's a leak. Looks pretty screwed though. Better to have a $100 mistake than a crash.

September 13th, 2014, 09:28 AM	#17
Ducati999 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ant Location: Wooster Join Date: Dec 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 999 2012 Ninja 250r Ducati748 Yellow finally running 2003 SV650 S (SOLD) Posts: A lot.	I would have to agree with most of the posts above. $100 for a new tire is way cheaper the repairs and/or Drs bills. The decision comes down to: what risk are you willing to take?

September 13th, 2014, 09:41 AM	#18
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	So what did you do? Damage the metal bead? Or just damage the rubber around the bead? can't really tell tbh. I'm not giving advice here. Liability and I'm not an authority on the subject. If it were me, I'd just replace it with a good tire and use that one as a place to put the tank when it's off for service. Or put it on a boat as a bumper, or something like that.

September 13th, 2014, 07:15 PM	#19
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	The band wasnt damaged. See op __________________________________________________

September 13th, 2014, 09:44 PM	#20
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I did see the op... That's why I was asking for clarification. Your picture is all thumb. I know you said 'the metal band is not damaged' but I'm more interested in seeing it myself. Just replace it and call it a learning experience

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