finally got caught...

gitoy · January 10th, 2012, 02:05 PM

yeah i have done it countless times...crossing the double yellow line on the bike to go in the carpool lane on the 405 freeway here in los angeles...

so traffic is backed up on the freeway and decided to cross the double yellow and go in the carpool lane...soon as i go in a chp cruiser on the right lane was flashing his lights and told me to get off the freeway...thought about running but common sense got the better of me...might have gotten away or wind up on tv...

my first ticket in like 10 years...so i have several questions...lawyer, fine, traffic school, on line, insurance hike, etc.?...anybody out there know the ins and outs?...

Havok · January 10th, 2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gitoy

yeah i have done it countless times...crossing the double yellow line on the bike to go in the carpool lane on the 405 freeway here in los angeles...

so traffic is backed up on the freeway and decided to cross the double yellow and go in the carpool lane...soon as i go in a chp cruiser on the right lane was flashing his lights and told me to get off the freeway...thought about running but common sense got the better of me...might have gotten away or wind up on tv...

my first ticket in like 10 years...so i have several questions...lawyer, fine, traffic school, on line, insurance hike, etc.?...anybody out there know the ins and outs?...

Pay the fine, do online traffic school and you should be good to go, no insurance hike if you do the school.

Kevin2109 · January 10th, 2012, 02:29 PM

good thing you didnt run lol but do as jeff said

Dont miss your court date if you fight it, trust me, not fun trying to make sure you dont have a warrant out lol

gitoy · January 10th, 2012, 06:46 PM

now that i think about it, when everybody started slowing down, i was afraid that i was going to be rear ended and i wound up going on the clear lane which is the carpool...

i don't know why i did not mention it to the chp...maybe i was just flustered getting a ticket after such a long time...i think i will fight it and i got a link that helped...

http://ticketassassin.com/docs/forms.html

jasle · January 10th, 2012, 07:15 PM

get prepaid legal. they fight these things for you...but you gotta have it 30 days before ticket. too late now.

Alex · January 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM

What was the ticket written for? Crossing a DY? Traveling in the carpool lane inappropriately? Carpool tickets are supposed to be non points-paying, but they are just expensive. A DY ticket does come with points.

n_aditya · January 11th, 2012, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gitoy

might have gotten away or wind up on tv...

oh jeez. there goes your opportunity to become famous.

Kidding. Good that you took the sensible option.

gitoy · January 11th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

What was the ticket written for? Crossing a DY? Traveling in the carpool lane inappropriately? Carpool tickets are supposed to be non points-paying, but they are just expensive. A DY ticket does come with points.

alex, he wrote me for crossing into HOV...

Nemesis · January 11th, 2012, 10:16 AM

Let me share a little story:

I think it was about 2 yrs ago when I got two tickets in one year (had a perfect record for 12 or 14 yrs...something like that). 1st one was for speeding which I took traffic school to clear my records and the and 2nd for what I thought was a citizen in need of help. Long story--see it's B.S. like this that I hate cops. So, I decided to fight the 2nd ticket.

Anyhow, everyone that was there to challenge their tickets got reamed by the judge for their lack of proof/argument/etc. One girl started to throw an attitude with the judge and the judge raised her penalty fee to what one would normally pay.

He then said, "The next person who argues & wastes my time with insufficient proof, etc. will get the maximum penalty fee and not be offered to take traffic school!!!"

And guess who was next?

They called my name and the officer's, and dammit the LEO's shows up. After the LEO gave his side of the story, it was my turn...I had planned out my argument and strategy to win the case but after hearing what the judge had to say (I blame that stupid girl!!

) I had to go to plan B. I looked at the judge and said, "Your honor, I'm not going to contest the officer's testimony and will accept any penalty fee you feel I deserve. However, I would like for your honor to know that I was led to believe a citizen was in need of help and my honest intention was to do just that...help."

The judge looked at me and smiled. He said, "I sense that you're being sincere & truthful. Would you like to take traffic school to clear this off your record?"

HECK YEAH!!!...I mean, HECK YEAH, your honor.

The end

Moral of the story: If you're gonna lie make darn sure you believe the lie to be the truth and look sincere doing it.

blink · January 11th, 2012, 11:10 AM

Go to court, I doubt the cop will show. They never do.

Kevin2109 · January 11th, 2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blink

Go to court, I doubt the cop will show. They never do.

Never say never

THE BIG SITT · January 11th, 2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin2109

never say never

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Kevin2109 · January 11th, 2012, 12:56 PM

This showed up in a thread on ZX6r.com today lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by imadude1134

that seems like the obvious conclusion...

follow my logic here:

kevin=justin beiber...
almost every girl <3's justin beiber...
end result: almost every girl <3's kevin

i.e. looking like justin bieber is a blessing (see above) and a curse (you still look like justin bieber)...

:laugh

250rr · January 11th, 2012, 03:27 PM

You may want to join the National Motorists Association. They give you (or, at least they did 5 years ago) a legal kit to fight tickets when you join.

gitoy · July 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM

UPDATE!

this has been going on for several months and i just got back from traffic court and i won...woohoo...ticket has been suspended and i am getting my $480 back in a couple of months...

i tried TBWD and got back a guilty verdict...i doubt if they even looked at my explanation...i think all are rubber stamped as guilty...anyway it bought me some time and with postponement it went to 6 months...

about half of the officers never showed up and tickets were dismissed...i was hoping my officer will not be there but no luck, he had three cases that day...bummer...

so i got off by claiming my violation for crossing the double yellow line was a safety issue...traffic was at a stop on the freeway and when i slowed down there was a car barreling behind me...told the judge i would have been squashed if i did not swerve in the carpool lane...

lesson to be learned?...guys fight your tickets!...

Stingray1000 · July 18th, 2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gitoy

UPDATE!

this has been going on for several months and i just got back from traffic court and i won...woohoo...ticket has been suspended and i am getting my $480 back in a couple of months...

i tried TBWD and got back a guilty verdict...i doubt if they even looked at my explanation...i think all are rubber stamped as guilty...anyway it bought me some time and with postponement it went to 6 months...

about half of the officers never showed up and tickets were dismissed...i was hoping my officer will not be there but no luck, he had three cases that day...bummer...

so i got off by claiming my violation for crossing the double yellow line was a safety issue...traffic was at a stop on the freeway and when i slowed down there was a car barreling behind me...told the judge i would have been squashed if i did not swerve in the carpool lane...

lesson to be learned?...guys fight your tickets!...

My girl just got a red light ticket from a Cam with video... How do I fight that??? Same way she'd been crushed had she not gone thru??? LOL

ajcadoo · July 18th, 2012, 01:06 PM

$480 fine?! That is more than my recent speeding ticket. And I lol'd that you considered running from CHP. Probably the stupidest idea you could have.

gitoy · August 22nd, 2012, 07:02 PM

just got a check from the superior court for $405...wtf?...i paid $480 for the ticket and they refunded me $75 short...

...i suppose i should be glad i am getting most of it back...

anybody know what is going on?...did they charge me some sort of fee?...

broilmebk · August 23rd, 2012, 09:23 AM

Awesome that you got out of the ticket gitoy! I was not so fortunate for a speeding ticket. Did TBWD built still guilty. Wasn't worth my time, literally, to fight in court since it was in Mojave County.
Not sure what happened with your $75 though. Court fees?

ai4px · August 23rd, 2012, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gitoy

so i got off by claiming my violation for crossing the double yellow line was a safety issue...traffic was at a stop on the freeway and when i slowed down there was a car barreling behind me...told the judge i would have been squashed if i did not swerve in the carpool lane...

lesson to be learned?...guys fight your tickets!...

This just bothers me.... lesson learned it to lie to the court? If you were man enough to commit the crime/infraction/whathaveyou, then you should be man enough to own up to it.

I got a ticket years ago due to a speedometer malfunction. The needle would stick at 55 until I got up to 70 or so then would jump to the correct reading. Since i rarely drove on the interstate, I never noticed the sticking. Anyway, the cop was nice (we talked guns and such on the roadside), but I had indeed been speeding. Went to court, told the judge my speedo was malfunctioning but that I had been speeding. He reduced the fine and cut to two points. After it was over before I left the stand, I praised the officer for being very professional and friendly. The judge said he'd never heard of anyone doing that before and thanked me.

Being nice never ever hurts. If you don't want to go to court, don't speed. If you choose to speed, you will eventually get caught. Choose to tell the truth.

broilmebk · August 23rd, 2012, 10:53 AM

On a side note, being that lane splitting is not illegal in CA, am I allowed to split on the double yellow from the lane right of carpool? And if so, couldn't that be used as an argument in gitoy's case?

gitoy · August 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM

it is not illegal to split lanes between the carpool lane and the 1st lane, which of course is the double yellow line...i have seen motorcycle cops do it, other bikers do it, and i also do it...

n4mwd · August 23rd, 2012, 04:34 PM

If they try to nail you for going into the HOV lane with a motorcycle, they are violating federal law. However, a double yellow is a different thing. They don't have those around here around HOV lanes. Glad you were able to set them straight.

January 10th, 2012, 02:05 PM	#1
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	finally got caught... yeah i have done it countless times...crossing the double yellow line on the bike to go in the carpool lane on the 405 freeway here in los angeles... so traffic is backed up on the freeway and decided to cross the double yellow and go in the carpool lane...soon as i go in a chp cruiser on the right lane was flashing his lights and told me to get off the freeway...thought about running but common sense got the better of me...might have gotten away or wind up on tv... my first ticket in like 10 years...so i have several questions...lawyer, fine, traffic school, on line, insurance hike, etc.?...anybody out there know the ins and outs?...

January 10th, 2012, 02:29 PM	#3
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	good thing you didnt run lol but do as jeff said Dont miss your court date if you fight it, trust me, not fun trying to make sure you dont have a warrant out lol __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

January 10th, 2012, 07:15 PM	#5
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January 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM	#6
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January 11th, 2012, 10:16 AM	#9
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	Let me share a little story: I think it was about 2 yrs ago when I got two tickets in one year (had a perfect record for 12 or 14 yrs...something like that). 1st one was for speeding which I took traffic school to clear my records and the and 2nd for what I thought was a citizen in need of help. Long story--see it's B.S. like this that I hate cops. So, I decided to fight the 2nd ticket. Anyhow, everyone that was there to challenge their tickets got reamed by the judge for their lack of proof/argument/etc. One girl started to throw an attitude with the judge and the judge raised her penalty fee to what one would normally pay. He then said, "The next person who argues & wastes my time with insufficient proof, etc. will get the maximum penalty fee and not be offered to take traffic school!!!" And guess who was next? They called my name and the officer's, and dammit the LEO's shows up. After the LEO gave his side of the story, it was my turn...I had planned out my argument and strategy to win the case but after hearing what the judge had to say (I blame that stupid girl!!) I had to go to plan B. I looked at the judge and said, "Your honor, I'm not going to contest the officer's testimony and will accept any penalty fee you feel I deserve. However, I would like for your honor to know that I was led to believe a citizen was in need of help and my honest intention was to do just that...help." The judge looked at me and smiled. He said, "I sense that you're being sincere & truthful. Would you like to take traffic school to clear this off your record?" HECK YEAH!!!...I mean, HECK YEAH, your honor. The end Moral of the story: If you're gonna lie make darn sure you believe the lie to be the truth and look sincere doing it.

January 10th, 2012, 06:46 PM	#4
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	now that i think about it, when everybody started slowing down, i was afraid that i was going to be rear ended and i wound up going on the clear lane which is the carpool... i don't know why i did not mention it to the chp...maybe i was just flustered getting a ticket after such a long time...i think i will fight it and i got a link that helped... http://ticketassassin.com/docs/forms.html

January 11th, 2012, 11:10 AM	#10
blink Always. Name: Alex Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '05 GSX-R600 Posts: A lot.	Go to court, I doubt the cop will show. They never do. __________________________________________________ blink-182

January 11th, 2012, 03:27 PM	#14
250rr ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Mark Location: Portland Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Cheap Italian Suit. Otherwise known as Dew Kitty Posts: A lot.	NMA You may want to join the National Motorists Association. They give you (or, at least they did 5 years ago) a legal kit to fight tickets when you join.

July 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM	#15
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	UPDATE! this has been going on for several months and i just got back from traffic court and i won...woohoo...ticket has been suspended and i am getting my $480 back in a couple of months... i tried TBWD and got back a guilty verdict...i doubt if they even looked at my explanation...i think all are rubber stamped as guilty...anyway it bought me some time and with postponement it went to 6 months... about half of the officers never showed up and tickets were dismissed...i was hoping my officer will not be there but no luck, he had three cases that day...bummer... so i got off by claiming my violation for crossing the double yellow line was a safety issue...traffic was at a stop on the freeway and when i slowed down there was a car barreling behind me...told the judge i would have been squashed if i did not swerve in the carpool lane... lesson to be learned?...guys fight your tickets!...

July 18th, 2012, 01:06 PM	#17
ajcadoo Towster ['__'`,-, Name: Josh Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Green Ninja 250 SE Posts: 379	$480 fine?! That is more than my recent speeding ticket. And I lol'd that you considered running from CHP. Probably the stupidest idea you could have.

August 22nd, 2012, 07:02 PM	#18
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	just got a check from the superior court for $405...wtf?...i paid $480 for the ticket and they refunded me $75 short......i suppose i should be glad i am getting most of it back... anybody know what is going on?...did they charge me some sort of fee?...

August 23rd, 2012, 09:23 AM	#19
broilmebk ninjette.org sage Name: Brian Location: Orange County, CA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 ninja 250r Posts: 762	Awesome that you got out of the ticket gitoy! I was not so fortunate for a speeding ticket. Did TBWD built still guilty. Wasn't worth my time, literally, to fight in court since it was in Mojave County. Not sure what happened with your $75 though. Court fees?

August 23rd, 2012, 10:53 AM	#21
broilmebk ninjette.org sage Name: Brian Location: Orange County, CA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): '12 ninja 250r Posts: 762	On a side note, being that lane splitting is not illegal in CA, am I allowed to split on the double yellow from the lane right of carpool? And if so, couldn't that be used as an argument in gitoy's case?

August 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM	#22
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	it is not illegal to split lanes between the carpool lane and the 1st lane, which of course is the double yellow line...i have seen motorcycle cops do it, other bikers do it, and i also do it...

August 23rd, 2012, 04:34 PM	#23
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	If they try to nail you for going into the HOV lane with a motorcycle, they are violating federal law. However, a double yellow is a different thing. They don't have those around here around HOV lanes. Glad you were able to set them straight. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

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