Flickering headlight and stuck blinkers

dyeforever · November 30th, 2010, 11:59 PM

Got back to riding my 250 after about two weeks and noticed a couple problems.

First problem is when i turn, put my blinker on and it stayed on, no blinking. If i cancel my blinker and put it back on it sometimes it will blink. the problem comes and goes. sometimes it will get stuck on at idle but when i rev it to 6k it starts to blink again. thought it would be my koso gauge causing this problem, so i installed my stock gauge cluster. nope problem still is there.

Next problem in my headlight flickers at idle and low rpm. I'll be sitting in my garage and can watch the headlight flicker. go out riding and it flickers below 6k or so, but in the upper rpm range it clicks and go back to normal. swap high beam bulb with the low beam, nothing.

Havent check the stator output yet, but i really hope it not that. any suggestion or help would be great.

Momaru · December 1st, 2010, 12:17 AM

Just a couple ideas:

Check for corrosion on the wiring/connectors on the headlights.

Check the turn signal relay and all of the turn signal bulbs.

dyeforever · December 1st, 2010, 11:18 AM

Checked all the plugs out everything looks fine. Going to test the battery today.

g21-30 · December 1st, 2010, 12:07 PM

The headlight flicker sounds like you have another accessory (aftermarket?) drawing excessive amps. The alternator reaches max power at 6K RPMs. Coincidentally, that is when your flicker stops. So, what could it be?

The turn signals are another problem..most likely a loose or bad connection on the side that is the problem. Make believe it is your left side and turn on the signal. If the front left bulb lights and the rear left doesn't, you have a loose connection in the left rear wiring. If the rear lights and the front doesn't, then the problem is in the front. By not blinking, the turn signal lets you know that either a bulb is burnt out or there is a wiring problem.

dyeforever · December 1st, 2010, 04:10 PM

Hmm, I do have accessory lights for my licence plate. Will test that tonight.

g21-30 · December 1st, 2010, 05:34 PM

Could also be something that continues to draw power while the bike is not running and possibly drains the battery.

dyeforever · December 1st, 2010, 09:50 PM

unplugged the license plate light, same problem. the blinkers stay steady on with the key on, bike off. going to swap parts with my brothers bike and try and find the problem.

UltrA_09 · December 1st, 2010, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyeforever

unplugged the license plate light, same problem. the blinkers stay steady on with the key on, bike off. going to swap parts with my brothers bike and try and find the problem.

The first thing I'd swap out would be the turn signal relay (located under the rear tail fairing). It might very well fix the 'signal sticking' issue.

Goodluck!

dyeforever · December 4th, 2010, 12:03 AM

Got around to fixing tonight. it was really bad riding tonight, so pull the fairings. checked all the wiring, no loose or frayed wire. remove the whole koso gauge harness, plugged in my stock gauge again. most the problems went away. blinker now blinks with key on bike off. headlight dont flicker, or barely enough to notice. im kinda bummed, i really like the koso gauge.

dyeforever · December 4th, 2010, 02:07 PM

Anyone with a koso rx2 installed having headlight, blinker or the oil, check engine light flicker on?

dyeforever · December 7th, 2010, 12:12 AM

Rode tonight still have the flickering headlights. anyone know how to test the stator?

kkim · December 7th, 2010, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyeforever

Rode tonight still have the flickering headlights. anyone know how to test the stator?

do you have a service manual? what year is the bike? your info says new gen but your avatar says pre
gen.

Sailariel · December 7th, 2010, 01:30 PM

A good friend, who is a MC mechanic, says that 90% of electrical problems eventually are traced to a poor ground. He also suggested that you look at what you worked on last.

dyeforever · December 7th, 2010, 09:53 PM

no service manual, but it a 09. think im the fourth or fifth owner of the bike. could be the ground, does a bike ground through the frame or everything grounds back at the battery?

Momaru · December 10th, 2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyeforever

no service manual, but it a 09. think im the fourth or fifth owner of the bike. could be the ground, does a bike ground through the frame or everything grounds back at the battery?

Not to pick nits here, but is your profile pic a picture of your bike? If so I'm pretty sure it's an '07 or earlier model, due to the left-hand exhaust and the single-piece seat, amongst other things. Might wanna check on that, there's a bunch of differences.

dyeforever · December 10th, 2010, 06:56 PM

That a pic of my old ninja. have gotten a chance to snap a pic of the new one.

Momaru · December 11th, 2010, 08:35 AM

Hehehe, okies. Thought you might've been seriously mislead by the previous owner. /end derail

UltrA_09 · December 11th, 2010, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltrA_09

The first thing I'd swap out would be the turn signal relay (located under the rear tail fairing). It might very well fix the 'signal sticking' issue.

Goodluck!

Have you tried switching the relay up for a new one? you can get one for around $10 from your local auto store.

dyeforever · December 15th, 2010, 09:24 PM

swap out the blinker relay from my brother bike. same problem. cant seem to find any ground that i would of disconnect when changing the gauge out. going to test the stator output tomorrow.

dyeforever · December 21st, 2010, 02:46 PM

tested the alternator today. output is good but too high. putting out about 60v when it should only be doing around 40v. regulator/rectifier is damaged.

dyeforever · December 22nd, 2010, 02:50 AM

Haha found it. was a loose ground on the battery. looked tight but grab the wire and it wiggled around. tighten it down and everything work fine. my water temp light stay on for a second or two after i start it, but that minor.

November 30th, 2010, 11:59 PM	#1
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Flickering headlight and stuck blinkers Got back to riding my 250 after about two weeks and noticed a couple problems. First problem is when i turn, put my blinker on and it stayed on, no blinking. If i cancel my blinker and put it back on it sometimes it will blink. the problem comes and goes. sometimes it will get stuck on at idle but when i rev it to 6k it starts to blink again. thought it would be my koso gauge causing this problem, so i installed my stock gauge cluster. nope problem still is there. Next problem in my headlight flickers at idle and low rpm. I'll be sitting in my garage and can watch the headlight flicker. go out riding and it flickers below 6k or so, but in the upper rpm range it clicks and go back to normal. swap high beam bulb with the low beam, nothing. Havent check the stator output yet, but i really hope it not that. any suggestion or help would be great.

December 1st, 2010, 12:17 AM	#2
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	Just a couple ideas: Check for corrosion on the wiring/connectors on the headlights. Check the turn signal relay and all of the turn signal bulbs. __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

December 7th, 2010, 01:30 PM	#13
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	A good friend, who is a MC mechanic, says that 90% of electrical problems eventually are traced to a poor ground. He also suggested that you look at what you worked on last. __________________________________________________ Ninjette, Sold. New Bike: 2010 Honda NT-700V/VA, 73 Honda 550, 74 Honda 550

December 11th, 2010, 08:35 AM	#17
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	Hehehe, okies. Thought you might've been seriously mislead by the previous owner. /end derail __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

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December 1st, 2010, 11:18 AM	#3
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Checked all the plugs out everything looks fine. Going to test the battery today.

December 1st, 2010, 12:07 PM	#4
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	The headlight flicker sounds like you have another accessory (aftermarket?) drawing excessive amps. The alternator reaches max power at 6K RPMs. Coincidentally, that is when your flicker stops. So, what could it be? The turn signals are another problem..most likely a loose or bad connection on the side that is the problem. Make believe it is your left side and turn on the signal. If the front left bulb lights and the rear left doesn't, you have a loose connection in the left rear wiring. If the rear lights and the front doesn't, then the problem is in the front. By not blinking, the turn signal lets you know that either a bulb is burnt out or there is a wiring problem.

December 1st, 2010, 04:10 PM	#5
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Hmm, I do have accessory lights for my licence plate. Will test that tonight.

December 1st, 2010, 05:34 PM	#6
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	Could also be something that continues to draw power while the bike is not running and possibly drains the battery.

December 1st, 2010, 09:50 PM	#7
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	unplugged the license plate light, same problem. the blinkers stay steady on with the key on, bike off. going to swap parts with my brothers bike and try and find the problem.

December 4th, 2010, 12:03 AM	#9
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Got around to fixing tonight. it was really bad riding tonight, so pull the fairings. checked all the wiring, no loose or frayed wire. remove the whole koso gauge harness, plugged in my stock gauge again. most the problems went away. blinker now blinks with key on bike off. headlight dont flicker, or barely enough to notice. im kinda bummed, i really like the koso gauge.

December 4th, 2010, 02:07 PM	#10
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Anyone with a koso rx2 installed having headlight, blinker or the oil, check engine light flicker on?

December 7th, 2010, 12:12 AM	#11
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Rode tonight still have the flickering headlights. anyone know how to test the stator?

December 7th, 2010, 09:53 PM	#14
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	no service manual, but it a 09. think im the fourth or fifth owner of the bike. could be the ground, does a bike ground through the frame or everything grounds back at the battery?

December 10th, 2010, 06:56 PM	#16
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	That a pic of my old ninja. have gotten a chance to snap a pic of the new one.

December 15th, 2010, 09:24 PM	#19
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	swap out the blinker relay from my brother bike. same problem. cant seem to find any ground that i would of disconnect when changing the gauge out. going to test the stator output tomorrow.

December 21st, 2010, 02:46 PM	#20
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	tested the alternator today. output is good but too high. putting out about 60v when it should only be doing around 40v. regulator/rectifier is damaged.

December 22nd, 2010, 02:50 AM	#21
dyeforever ninjette.org member Name: Jesse Location: Kona, Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 250r(sold), 09 250r(sold), 07 CRF450x, 07 sv650(sold) Posts: 110	Haha found it. was a loose ground on the battery. looked tight but grab the wire and it wiggled around. tighten it down and everything work fine. my water temp light stay on for a second or two after i start it, but that minor.