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Old February 6th, 2009, 11:25 PM   #41
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I use Amsoil 10W-40 Full Synthetic and a K&N filter.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 12:27 AM   #42
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i'm getting ready to do the first oil change on my 2003 EX ... (that didn't sound right)
my first oil change since OWNING my bike...i'm going to use Rotella SAE 5w 40, with a 'saki filter i got with the bike. not sure whats in there now.

i can't remember exactly where i got this from, but noted it while i was researching the oil change that there are alternate o-rings that could be used:

Hyundai part #21513-23001 and Nissan part #11026-01M02 in lieu of OEM part #671 & #670.

anyone ever hear/read/use?

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Old February 7th, 2009, 12:32 AM   #43
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do you know when the oil was changed last? most times a no-no, but if it hasn't been too long, perhaps you can just reuse the o-rings that are in there now.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #44
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think he did last change at 1k miles...am just above 3.5k now
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think he did last change at 1k miles...am just above 3.5k now
how's about you just go buy a filter from NAPA and then the next time you change the oil, you can use the kawi filter and just reuse the o-rings then. At least you know the o-rings are relatively new. I change mine at every filter change and they still look new when I've done that. of course it only had a couple of hundred miles on it when I've changed them out.
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going to try and find the supplies today. thanks for all the help. at what mileage is it ok to switch to synthetic? is there any rule for motorcycles?
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People recommend a couple of thousand miles before switching. I swiched at 1000 miles and have had no problems.
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just another quick word on the filters - I used to intern at a company that made the filter papers that fram purchased (though I don't know in which specific filters they were used)- they had all sorts of quality control issues - after hearing and reading things about them online, and my own experiences at that company, that is why I won't use them anymore
Does not come as a surprise. I know that Yanmar Diesel will void your warranty if you use a Fram filtre. NAPA and WIX are OK by Yanmar.
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I'm using regular Rotella T right now, but am switching to Rotella T full synthetic (if spring ever comes to the Northeast.) I use a K&N 401 filter. How absurd is it that Kawi makes you buy parts separately for a simple oil change?!
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I switched to Rotella synth yesterday. I was already using Rotella normal before. I wish I could go ride if it wasn't rainy. wtf. 3 days it's been wet.

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Since we are on the subject. While at the local dealer, I noticed the price tag on the oil, was around $8-10 and up/quart. Didn't check the filters. Where does everybody get there parts, I have noticed NAPA mentioned a time or two. And how much is it running, on average.

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Since we are on the subject. While at the local dealer, I noticed the price tag on the oil, was around $8-10 and up/quart. Didn't check the filters. Where does everybody get there parts, I have noticed NAPA mentioned a time or two. And how much is it running, on average.

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well, i went to checkers yesterday and the only conventional motorcycle oil i saw was the valvoline. it was going for $4 a quart iirc.

going down to clean my chain and change my oil in a bit.
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Since we are on the subject. While at the local dealer, I noticed the price tag on the oil, was around $8-10 and up/quart. Didn't check the filters. Where does everybody get there parts, I have noticed NAPA mentioned a time or two. And how much is it running, on average.

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I use automotive oil in my bike based on this.
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Which_o...NOT_be_used%3F

I am presently running Shell Rotella T synthetic oil based on this, too.
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Preferred_Brands
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Why_Synthetic_Oil%3F

some other good oil info...
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Engine_Oil
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the really confusing thing is why do they make motorcycle oil if it is ok to use automotive oil? i did a quick google and i guess there seems to be debate on this topic.
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the really confusing thing is why do they make motorcycle oil if it is ok to use automotive oil? i did a quick google and i guess there seems to be debate on this topic.
Not all car oils are OK for bikes with wet clutches.

I believe it's the car oils with energy conserving additives or something of that sort.
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why do they make MC specific HID kits, when car kits will do the job and charge you more than 50% of a car kit??? Profit!

There are automotive oils that they say to stay away from in those links, but every person needs to make up their own mind. This was part of the reason for this thread, so we could discuss these issues.
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I use motorcycle specific air in my tires. It's better and specially formulated for round motorcycle tire designs.


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i can't remember exactly where i got this from, but noted it while i was researching the oil change that there are alternate o-rings that could be used:

Hyundai part #21513-23001 and Nissan part #11026-01M02 in lieu of OEM part #671 & #670.
I still have the stock o-rings on the bike after a few changes. Long as there not hard/cut or square...... I feel they are still good.
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this morning, i used the valvoline motorcycle oil 10w 40 and the kawasaki oil filter. checkers only had fram and from this thread, i decided not to get it. so, i went to the dealer and got their filter and o-rings. i don't remember, but the o-rings were like $10 or something. what a rip-off.

worst comes to worst, next time i will just order some filters/o-rings online.

where can i go to dispose the oil? i bought the oil eater box thingy. it has been so long since i changed my own oil i don't remember where to go.

edit: thanks kim.
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you should be able to get rid of the oil at any parts store
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Not all car oils are OK for bikes with wet clutches.

I believe it's the car oils with energy conserving additives or something of that sort.
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On Oahu, don't they still use H power? If so, just dispose of the box with the rest of the trash.
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i thought it was just the big island, but i googled it and yeah, we have h-power. hmm.. ok, i will just throw it in the trash can then. that is easy. thanks.
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You guys can just toss used oil and other fluids in the trash?

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I use to dump it out back. Wife said go green, so I put it out with the garbage
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this morning, i used the valvoline motorcycle oil 10w 40 and the kawasaki oil filter. checkers only had fram and from this thread, i decided not to get it. so, i went to the dealer and got their filter and o-rings. i don't remember, but the o-rings were like $10 or something. what a rip-off.

worst comes to worst, next time i will just order some filters/o-rings online.

where can i go to dispose the oil? i bought the oil eater box thingy. it has been so long since i changed my own oil i don't remember where to go.

edit: thanks kim.
SW, I am sort of partial to WIX #24941 OR NAPA Gold #PS4941, or Car Quest#CFI89941. All three are made by WIX and come with all the necessary O rings.
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thanks. i was in a rush yesterday. i will go to either napa or car quest instead for the next time.
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might want to call ahead and see if they have them in stock. If not, they can usually have it in within a day or 2. I usually buy 2 at a time because of this and it's nice not having to go run out to get a filter for the next change. Buy the oil by the gallon and you can do 2 oil changes before needing to buy oil again. I'm all about laziness.
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good idea. i will look for the gallon bottles. i guess i will change oil again in 1000-1500 miles and switch to synthetics.

btw. i felt bad, so i went down to checkers to turn in my used oil eater box. they told me that it is ok to just throw those away in the trash. so, i guess it is true.
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i believe those islands with 'h-power', (basically where trash is burned to produce power), have these containers where waste oil is collected, container is trashed, and burned later...

i THINK thats how it works there. we don't have any h-power facilities here on kauai, although i do believe certain retailers provide waste oil collection. (not sure if they're mandated by law)...otherwise...i just take what i have to the local land-fill and they'll take it from me in whatever container i bring it to them in. (so far anyway)
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where can i go to dispose the oil?
Around here you hold onto the sales slip from the store you purchased your new oil at and bring the used oil back to them. If they sell it, they have to take back the used oil you're replacing.

I usually get my K&N filters from Dennis Kirk or Motorcycle Superstore online. I order from them often enough that I just add a filter to my shopping cart automatically every time I place an order. That way I always have a new filter around when I need it.

Actually, even the Ninja 250 manual states that you can use automotive oil although I wouldn't want to try it with a wet clutch that has enough problems shifting with motorcycle-specific formulations. The clutch really needs a thicker oil like Rotella.
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Actually, even the Ninja 250 manual states that you can use automotive oil although I wouldn't want to try it with a wet clutch that has enough problems shifting with motorcycle-specific formulations. The clutch really needs a thicker oil like Rotella.
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I use automotive oil in my bike based on this.
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Which_o...NOT_be_used%3F

I am presently running Shell Rotella T synthetic oil based on this, too.
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Preferred_Brands
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Why_Synthetic_Oil%3F

some other good oil info...
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Engine_Oil
Thanks Kelly, I will use this when it comes time. I just rolled over 3K this weekend. The oil so far has been changed according to the manual, any reason to stay with the manual or is waiting to till it rolls over 7500 too late?

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If I were you, I'd consider doing a change now and switching to the Rotella T synthetic oil. Frequent oil changes during the break in period is always a good idea, in any vehicle.

Many manufactures will list mileage intervals that in their opinion get the job done and in doing so, list intervals that looks good from a maintenance cost perspective. I feel a $10 oil change is cheap insurance to help engine longevity.
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Here in Belfast it is pretty simple. I collect the oil in a 3Gal can--oil changes from the boat, the MC, and two cages, and take it to the harbour. The tugboats are more than happy to take the used oil and use it on their boats--diluted with fuel oil. Their massive engines have no problem burning the stuff. I have been told that since we have an oil burning furnace that I can dump used oil into my oil tank and that diluted in fuel oil, the furnace would burn it with no problem. I think that before I decide to try that, I will consult a furnace expert. Now if this "expert" gives me a heads up, my disposal problem will be solved. Three gallons diluted in 150 Gal. sounds like it could work.

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Might want to check to see if the heavy metals in the used oil would be a problem being burned.
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In my 06' : Shell Rotella T 5W-40 full Synthetic and Napa Gold filter.

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