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Old December 12th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #121
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Old December 12th, 2009, 10:22 PM   #122
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Kawi OEM Filter with Motul 5100 15W-50. Figure the manual says that 10W-XX is good until -10C and 20W-XX is good until 0C so I figured I don't run under freezing so the extra bit of 15W-50 will give me enough come spring but the 50 will assure optimal performance in the summer heat. Lol, it get to be 35C(95F) max here in summer time so I have 15 degrees of breathing room instead of 5.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #123
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Currently running Shell Rotella 5w 40. I'm switching back to the Mobil 1, though. Seems like my bike ran a lot better on it. Shifting was a lot smoother too.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #124
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I just changed to Rotella 15w-40, but haven't had a chance to ride on it yet - though I'm intending to move to 5w40 synthetic once it warms up again. Wix filters.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 11:50 AM   #125
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Castrol Syntec - oddly enough, it's the one that says it's designed for European high performance vehicles. It just happened to be on sale

K&N oil filter.

Worked well so far, I'll probably do the same next time.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 01:26 PM   #126
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Old December 14th, 2009, 05:57 PM   #127
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Old December 14th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #128
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Expensive amsoil and a K&N Filter
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:19 PM   #129
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mobile 1 synth and fram filter.
Be careful with Fram.

I use Rotella synthetic and Purolator oil filters (ML16812 for pre-gen 250s) are great, and the prices are even better. Purolator makes a solid filter. But it doesn't really matter, most important thing is changing your oil regularly.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 07:27 PM   #130
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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:28 AM   #131
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That sounds scarily risky. Is it okay to do it with just a kick stand? Just make sure it doesnt get stuck in any crevices? PM the answer to my question to me please!
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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #132
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you can do an oil/filter change with the bike on it's kickstand. a rear stand makes it a little bit easier, but certainly not necessary.
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Old February 20th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #133
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When I first got my 250R I changed the oil at 50 miles.
I used Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle oil and a WIX #24941 filter.
http://valvoline.com/products/consum...cle-atv-oil/13

Using the same brand oil and filter, I changed the oil again at 100 miles, 300 miles, 600 miles, and 1000 miles.

At 1500 miles I changed to Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 and I still used the WIX filter.
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t6_detail.html

I have spent countless hours studying up on mototcycle oil. I was so skeptical about using diesel truck oil at first. After I spent some time looking in to it, the choice was very clear. Shell Rotella T all the way !!

They actually have their own Shell Rotella T motorcycle forum. Check it out.
http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthre...Board=9&page=1
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Old February 20th, 2010, 02:17 PM   #134
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Oil is critical on these motors. I burned up a motor on the track when I was using dinosaur oil and didn't know about the oil system problems in these motors. Since then I have used Shell Rotella T synthetic oil and religiously keep it right at the full mark. I dribble in a few ounces whenever needed. I have done many dozen track days and races since the switch and haven't lost a single motor.

I am sold on Shell Rotella t synthetic. I use whatever filter: Fram, K&N, Emgo. They all look like they come from the same factory.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 11:37 AM   #135
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Rotella Synthetic and Fram. I'm at ~1200 miles and I've never noticed the oil level drop. Knock on wood
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 12:49 PM   #136
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Lightbulb What kind of Oil does everyone use?

I need to do an oil change in a few days and I was wondering what everyone runs.

Also what kind of oil filter do you use and do you change it every time?

P.S. I tried doing a search for similar threads but 'oil' is too short.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:06 PM   #137
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Valvoline 10w40 4-stroke motorcycle oil. Kawasaki filter I got from my dealer. (14 dollar filter!!!)

I've heard of people running from 5w30 to 20w50 in their 88-07 ninjettes.

I'm not really sure what the factory recommendations are for the newer gens.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:13 PM   #138
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:17 PM   #139
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Rotella 5w-40 fullsynthetic. Fram filter - though some on here poo poo them.

I change the filter everytime.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:27 PM   #140
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Do you really notice a difference switching to synthetic?

And thats diesel engine oil?
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:33 PM   #141
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Yes, big difference with synthetic. Bike now runs like a 1000.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:42 PM   #142
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Valvoline 20W50 4 stroke motorcycle oil and Wix #24941 filter. I change mine every 1000-1500 miles. The O'reilly Auto Parts by me always has the filter in stock.

Here's another thread sort of related to this subject...

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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:44 PM   #143
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:46 PM   #144
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Do you really notice a difference switching to synthetic?

And thats diesel engine oil?
Oil is oil, it's the viscosity (5W-40) that matters. Big rigs happen to use 40 weight oil and so do our bikes.

I'm not sure if I noticed the difference or not. Primarily, I use synthetic oil in my car and bike so I don't have to change it as often.
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Oil is oil, it's the viscosity (5W-40) that matters. Big rigs happen to use 40 weight oil and so do our bikes.

I'm not sure if I noticed the difference or not. Primarily, I use synthetic oil in my car and bike so I don't have to change it as often.
So there is no difference in regular oil and synthetic except the time between changes?

Why does some oil say for motorcycles? If oil is oil should it work for everything?
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I use whatever brand the kawi dealer sells, and Kawi oil filters. Pretty reasonable suprisingly.
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Lots of info here, check it out
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13033


To quote myself, this is what I posted in that thread.

When I first got my 250R I changed the oil at 50 miles.
I used Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle oil and a WIX #24941 filter.
http://valvoline.com/products/consum...cle-atv-oil/13

Using the same brand oil and filter, I changed the oil again at 100 miles, 300 miles, 600 miles, and 1000 miles.

At 1500 miles I changed to Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 and I still used the WIX filter.
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t6_detail.html

I have spent countless hours studying up on mototcycle oil. I was so skeptical about using diesel truck oil at first. After I spent some time looking in to it, the choice was very clear. Shell Rotella T all the way !!

They actually have their own Shell Rotella T motorcycle forum. Check it out.
http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthre...Board=9&page=1
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 02:49 PM   #148
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i use putoline 10w/40 semi synth £3.45Litre and gen kwak oil filter £4.20
i will change oil and filter every 1500miles ..
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Start here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buel...tml?1267398133
continue here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buel...tml?1267414404

The problem with just any oil is the friction modifiers in the newest version of car oils may decrease clutch life.
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As mentioned in one of the "stickies":

http://www.vfrworld.com/tex_vfr/tech/oil.htm
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That's the short version, in the first link I gave is a link to the full article, took a while to read but I consider it time well spent.

OK different authors but same good info:
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html
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Valvoline 10W-40 Full Synthetic Engine Armour & Kawasaki oil filter, but will be switching to the K&N oil filter in my next oil change. Going to start changing oil and filter every 5000kms.

A question about the filter, when you guys change it do you guys change both O-rings or the big one only?
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I highly recommend using a high quality synthetic oil. I use Shell Rotella T synthetic.

250 Ninja motors have a design flaw that can cause a loss of oil pressure when run hard. I don't know if this has been corrected in the new motors or not but I doubt it.

I have seen many 250s with spun bearings. I've even lost a motor myself before I got anal about oil. I was running dinosaur oil and letting the oil level get down to the lower level mark.

Since burning up my (my girlfriends) motor I switched to Shell Rotella T and have maintained the oil level at the full mark at all times. Since then I have ridden many dozens of days at the track with no engine failures.
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So there is no difference in regular oil and synthetic except the time between changes?
My meaning is that they are interchangable.

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Why does some oil say for motorcycles? If oil is oil should it work for everything?
The only difference between motorcycle oil and standard automotive oil is $5/quart.
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The only difference between motorcycle oil and standard automotive oil is $5/quart.

Not true. Automotive engine oils contain friction modifiers and some contain moly. This will effect the clutch performance in wet clutch applications. You are much better off using motorcycle specific oil. Even though it costs more than automotive oil, you only need to buy 2 quarts. The way I look at it, it's cheaper to spend a few more bucks on the correct oil than replacing the clutch prematurely.
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Motul 5100 Semi-synthetic 10w-40, with emgo filter, no complains so far...
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