Front End Wobbles - Page 3

g21-30 · March 7th, 2009, 11:44 PM

Kelly,

As a test today, I took my hands off the clipons at 50 MPH with no wobbles. Of course, I have the factory tires, etc.

Alex · March 7th, 2009, 11:48 PM

Sam -

Did you let the bike decelerate on its own from 50 mph to 40 mph with your hands off the bars?

VeX · March 8th, 2009, 12:02 AM

Hahaha. Nice Wayne's World reference

That's not a bad idea though on the weighted bar ends. I was thinking about doing the same thing using your cheatin' way of doing it

. It's weird that people with the SV650 clip-ons aren't having that problem. Perhaps they are heavier or just naturally absorb vibration better? Who knows.

Ken · March 8th, 2009, 11:45 AM

Kelly,

I let go of the handlebars (stock) at an indicated 90mph, 80mph, 70mph, 60mph, and 50mph. I let the bike decelerate for 10mph at each speed. At all speeds it's rock- solid on my bike.

g21-30 · March 8th, 2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Sam -

Did you let the bike decelerate on its own from 50 mph to 40 mph with your hands off the bars?

Yesterday, I forgot that is what kkim did, so no I didn't. Today, I tried again, this time letting go at 50 down to 40. No wobbles!

Broom · March 8th, 2009, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Sam -

Did you let the bike decelerate on its own from 50 mph to 40 mph with your hands off the bars?

what gear do you hit 50-60mph with stock gearing at about half way through the rpm range?

i'm headed to the track again on friday morning and might test it out on my bike a bit. you guys have me curious. not sure my results will be any use to you guys since my suspension and geometry is modified though.

kkim · March 8th, 2009, 07:43 PM

I'm in 6th gear when it is happening, but I don't think the gear has anything to do with it.

Today I went for a ride since putting on my bar weights on the clipons. Same results... wobbling when decelerating from 50-40mph.

Damn... this is really starting to piss me off.

Broom · March 8th, 2009, 07:48 PM

just wondering so i can try it... i don't have a dash so i never know my rpm or speed

kkim · March 8th, 2009, 07:49 PM

lol... I forgot.

Alex · March 8th, 2009, 07:54 PM

6th gear, 8000 RPM, and let it go down to 4000 RPM. You'll cross through 45ish mph at some point there.

Broom · March 8th, 2009, 07:58 PM

wheres redline on these bikes?

Alex · March 8th, 2009, 08:01 PM

13k.

CRXTrek · March 16th, 2009, 11:27 AM

While i had the SV650 clips i didn't have the wobble you describe.
And now that i changed to the WoodCrafts i still don't have the wobble.
I left the barend weights off and i'm having no issues.
Maybe it's a rider weight thing... i'm at 195 lbs.

kkim · March 16th, 2009, 11:35 AM

I'm about 160-170, so I doubt rider weight has anything to do with it. I'm leaning towards something to do with the front tire/wheel or steering stem. I have yet to check any of these, though I did retorque the front axle nut w/o any changes. Thanks for your input, though. seems like there is no rhyme or reason why some wobble and some don't.

have not had time to work on the bike recently... playing Honda Civic mechanic getting the car ready for sale.

Broom · March 16th, 2009, 12:03 PM

i forgot to try it at the track this weekend. i have another track day on sunday though, maybe i'll remember this time.

kawi_cj · March 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM

i had this problem n it was the tire i got was unbalanced
so check ur tire its self not only the rim
lift ur front tire off the ground n spin the tire
feel the edge of the tire with ur thumb u
will feel some spots r out more then others
i hade the same problem 40 to 30 mph n the dealer
said this was why i changed the tire n it went away

good luck

kkim · March 23rd, 2009, 04:56 PM

thanks. I've always suspected I might have gotten a bum front tire as this started up after I changed both front and rear tires. I'll try the tests you mention.

mahalo for your feedback

Broom · March 23rd, 2009, 05:11 PM

I tried taking my hands off the bars a few times and decelled at the track this weekend and got no hint of wobbles
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kkim · March 23rd, 2009, 05:13 PM

thanks.

time to start hunting again.

Nemy · March 23rd, 2009, 05:16 PM

No wobbles here on the 09. But like I posted above, I constantly have it on my 06 and found nothing wrong with it and no abnormal tire wear.

randomwalk101 · April 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM

Have you consider putting in a steerling damper? You can easily fab up a bracket and put in a cheap stock gixxer one or if you like you can go with ohlins if you want the best. It'll solve the prob for sure and prevent any possible tank slapping for safety measures. A few bones def worth dismounting the bike superman-style

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CC Cowboy · April 17th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Kelly, I just found this thread. I had this happen on my first GSXR 750R Limited back in 1986. The limited had the dry clutch (which was great) but also had the bigger front forks off the GSXR 1100. I put dymag wheels and track tires on it (not slicks) and it had a scary head shack after that. The suspension had to be tuned to get rid of the problem. Cycle magazine did a whole article about it. I know we changed the rear shock and retuned the front forks but me being a rider not a mechanic I don't remember exactly how it was set up. All I remember is it worked. It was all in the suspension.

c_anglada · April 18th, 2009, 05:27 PM

I still don’t think the suspension has anything to do with it. The bike was just fine before the install of the clip-on after the install the bars wobble. Installing the clip-on does not mess with the tire balance or alignment so it’s not that. It’s not a defective tire or it would have been noticed with the stock bars. Only way for me to describe what is happening is once you take your hands off the bars it looks like your operating a jack hammer(just the bars move/wobble and it steers straight). Kelly can you confirm this or are you experiencing something different?

kkim · April 18th, 2009, 05:39 PM

Chris,

That's accurate. When decel through 50-40 with hands off the bars, the front end will wiggle wildly if I let it. As soon as I put my hands back on the bars, it stops.

To be fair, I did notice a slight oscillation in the bars when coming downhill decel through a corner at approx. 40 mph when leaned over after I did my tire change. I only noticed the wild oscillation with the hands off the bars after the installation of the clipons, so it might have been there prior but after the tire change.

c_anglada · April 18th, 2009, 06:00 PM

i still have the stock tires and noticed it after the install. once its nice again ima try to mess around with it.

Verus Cidere · April 18th, 2009, 06:17 PM

My bike actually does the wobble thing all the time. Almost every ride in fact. It gets pretty bad too. Sometimes it gets bad enough that it'll wobble even with my hands on the bars. I have noticed recently though that it only happens while I'm engine braking. If I stick myself in neutral (which is probably bad going that fast, but I'm a newb. Please correct that in me if it's wrong) and let it decel from there with my hands off, there's no wobble at all, whereas when I'm in gear during the decel with no hands it will wobble almost every time. I always thought it had something to do with the slight raise in vibration when engine braking. As for fixing it, I have no idea! Sorry. Not a mechanic by any sense of the word.

c_anglada · April 18th, 2009, 06:54 PM

do you have the stock bars or clipons?

Verus Cidere · April 18th, 2009, 08:49 PM

Stock bars. Clipons are yet to come.

I re-tested after that last post and found that it does wobble a little after 40mph even in neutral, but it wobbles MUCH more obviously and violently when engine braking. Just what I found. Hope it helps.

ninjabrewer · April 18th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Kelly, what is the status on your wobble?

nb

kkim · April 18th, 2009, 11:19 PM

still the same. I haven't done anything after the rear wheel alignment. still mulling it over, but I think the next step is to pull the front wheel back off and check the steering stem for tightness. I have a suspicion I may have gotten bum tire from the get go.

CC Cowboy · April 19th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Ever think of getting apehangers? Those clipons are hard on your wrists.

CC Cowboy · April 19th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Kelly, I just bought a GSXR 1000 and as I was going through the gsxr forum I noticed this thread.

front end wobble

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i have a 03 1000 bought it 3 weeks ago the first 2 times i rode it if i let go of the bars there was no wobble i replaced the upper triple tree rode it yesterday now when i let go of the bars they wobble any ideals?

Re: front end wobble

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I had this on my 05 zx6r and i ended up tightening the steering head up a bit and it solved my problem..

ps- i had no noticeable slop in the bearings when lifted from the frame, although the service manual stated the head shouldnt "return" if you bounce the steering off the stop lightly, and mine did, so i just gave it a few taps with a hammer and snugged it up, perfect after that.

Just some information, I'm not sure if it is good or bad.

stroked59 · April 19th, 2009, 10:49 AM

you could always install an Ohlins stabilizer........

kkim · April 19th, 2009, 10:51 AM

Thanks. I know loose steering head adjusters can lead to the wobbles, but that doesn't explain why this all started after I changed the tire. I'll check it out though as that's what I've figured out might be a cause of the wobble.

GSXR 1000, huh??? have fun, my friend!

CC Cowboy · April 19th, 2009, 04:34 PM

Kelly,
I've been picking up bikes to cheap to pass up. $6000 for a 03 Lowrider (3000 miles) and I only paid $2000 for the 06 GSXR 1000 (8000 miles). I have to add that they were through people I knew. I didn't find them on the classified. Just folks that needed money.

I just missed a 69 Bonneville in good shape for $800. I'm more on a Norton guy anyway.

kkim · April 19th, 2009, 04:37 PM

damn... how many bikes in your stable right now?

wyckedflesh · April 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM

Before you can the front tire, dismount the tire from the rim, then remount it.

Another thing to think about Kelly, how windy is it when you trying to do this? Does your jacket flap and flutter easily? The wind tugging on your jacket will cause you to shift your weight in small amounts. When your hands are on the bars, your hands by reflex counter the shift in weight, but without your hands on the bars, your weight shift transfers to the steering in small amounts. On a bike as light as the 250R, it is easily noticeable. Depending on how pronounced the profile of the tire is, say, more triangular, it gives you a smaller amount of footprint, which will also add to the slight shake.

Just something to think about.

kkim · April 19th, 2009, 08:28 PM

yep, as a last resort, dismounting and remounting is on the bottom of the list to get rid of the wobble.

Aerostich one piece suit, so no fluttering of riderwear. And it will happen in all level of winds from no wind to gusty conditions. It is definitely coming from/being caused by something to do with the bike.

mike_sema · April 19th, 2009, 09:24 PM

I do not have clip ons but I tried letting my hands free after reading this thread and I hade a little bit of wobble then I added zzr 1200 stock bar ends to the bike and no more wobble but it could have been the road aswell

VeX · April 30th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Supersport bike?
Steering damper = allowing supersport bikes to push the trail envelope.

Having a headshake on a bike that ISN'T even close to pushing the trail evelope?
Steering damper = a bandaid that doesn't fix the problem, but hides the symptoms.

I'm surprised over the months you still haven't knocked this problem out. I think since I've broken my tires in my headshake issues have lessened. I agree with checking the head bearings though. It's an easy enough thing to adjust.

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March 8th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#88
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	just wondering so i can try it... i don't have a dash so i never know my rpm or speed __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

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March 8th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#91
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	wheres redline on these bikes? __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

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March 7th, 2009, 11:44 PM	#81
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Kelly, As a test today, I took my hands off the clipons at 50 MPH with no wobbles. Of course, I have the factory tires, etc.

March 8th, 2009, 12:02 AM	#83
VeX That's me! Name: TJ Location: Ames, IA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Tis blue), 2008 CBR600RR Posts: 454	Hahaha. Nice Wayne's World reference That's not a bad idea though on the weighted bar ends. I was thinking about doing the same thing using your cheatin' way of doing it . It's weird that people with the SV650 clip-ons aren't having that problem. Perhaps they are heavier or just naturally absorb vibration better? Who knows.

March 8th, 2009, 11:45 AM	#84
Ken "Is that the Ninjer 1000? Name: Ken Location: SoCal SGV Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Quarter Liter Kawi Posts: 275	Kelly, I let go of the handlebars (stock) at an indicated 90mph, 80mph, 70mph, 60mph, and 50mph. I let the bike decelerate for 10mph at each speed. At all speeds it's rock- solid on my bike.

March 8th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#87
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I'm in 6th gear when it is happening, but I don't think the gear has anything to do with it. Today I went for a ride since putting on my bar weights on the clipons. Same results... wobbling when decelerating from 50-40mph. Damn... this is really starting to piss me off.

March 8th, 2009, 07:49 PM	#89
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol... I forgot.

March 16th, 2009, 11:27 AM	#93
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	While i had the SV650 clips i didn't have the wobble you describe. And now that i changed to the WoodCrafts i still don't have the wobble. I left the barend weights off and i'm having no issues. Maybe it's a rider weight thing... i'm at 195 lbs.

March 16th, 2009, 11:35 AM	#94
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I'm about 160-170, so I doubt rider weight has anything to do with it. I'm leaning towards something to do with the front tire/wheel or steering stem. I have yet to check any of these, though I did retorque the front axle nut w/o any changes. Thanks for your input, though. seems like there is no rhyme or reason why some wobble and some don't. have not had time to work on the bike recently... playing Honda Civic mechanic getting the car ready for sale.

March 16th, 2009, 12:03 PM	#95
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	i forgot to try it at the track this weekend. i have another track day on sunday though, maybe i'll remember this time. __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

March 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM	#96
kawi_cj ninjette.org member Name: jason & char Location: mississauga Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 kawi 250r Posts: 46	i had this problem n it was the tire i got was unbalanced so check ur tire its self not only the rim lift ur front tire off the ground n spin the tire feel the edge of the tire with ur thumb u will feel some spots r out more then others i hade the same problem 40 to 30 mph n the dealer said this was why i changed the tire n it went away good luck

March 23rd, 2009, 04:56 PM	#97
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	thanks. I've always suspected I might have gotten a bum front tire as this started up after I changed both front and rear tires. I'll try the tests you mention. mahalo for your feedback

March 23rd, 2009, 05:11 PM	#98
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	I tried taking my hands off the bars a few times and decelled at the track this weekend and got no hint of wobbles Posted via Mobile Device

March 23rd, 2009, 05:13 PM	#99
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	thanks. time to start hunting again.

March 23rd, 2009, 05:16 PM	#100
Nemy ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Portland, OR Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 796	No wobbles here on the 09. But like I posted above, I constantly have it on my 06 and found nothing wrong with it and no abnormal tire wear.

April 17th, 2009, 12:33 PM	#101
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	Have you consider putting in a steerling damper? You can easily fab up a bracket and put in a cheap stock gixxer one or if you like you can go with ohlins if you want the best. It'll solve the prob for sure and prevent any possible tank slapping for safety measures. A few bones def worth dismounting the bike superman-style Posted via Mobile Device

April 17th, 2009, 01:44 PM	#102
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Kelly, I just found this thread. I had this happen on my first GSXR 750R Limited back in 1986. The limited had the dry clutch (which was great) but also had the bigger front forks off the GSXR 1100. I put dymag wheels and track tires on it (not slicks) and it had a scary head shack after that. The suspension had to be tuned to get rid of the problem. Cycle magazine did a whole article about it. I know we changed the rear shock and retuned the front forks but me being a rider not a mechanic I don't remember exactly how it was set up. All I remember is it worked. It was all in the suspension. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

April 18th, 2009, 05:27 PM	#103
c_anglada ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Tobyhanna, PA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 51	I still don’t think the suspension has anything to do with it. The bike was just fine before the install of the clip-on after the install the bars wobble. Installing the clip-on does not mess with the tire balance or alignment so it’s not that. It’s not a defective tire or it would have been noticed with the stock bars. Only way for me to describe what is happening is once you take your hands off the bars it looks like your operating a jack hammer(just the bars move/wobble and it steers straight). Kelly can you confirm this or are you experiencing something different?

April 18th, 2009, 05:39 PM	#104
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Chris, That's accurate. When decel through 50-40 with hands off the bars, the front end will wiggle wildly if I let it. As soon as I put my hands back on the bars, it stops. To be fair, I did notice a slight oscillation in the bars when coming downhill decel through a corner at approx. 40 mph when leaned over after I did my tire change. I only noticed the wild oscillation with the hands off the bars after the installation of the clipons, so it might have been there prior but after the tire change.

April 18th, 2009, 06:00 PM	#105
c_anglada ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Tobyhanna, PA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 51	i still have the stock tires and noticed it after the install. once its nice again ima try to mess around with it.

April 18th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#106
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	My bike actually does the wobble thing all the time. Almost every ride in fact. It gets pretty bad too. Sometimes it gets bad enough that it'll wobble even with my hands on the bars. I have noticed recently though that it only happens while I'm engine braking. If I stick myself in neutral (which is probably bad going that fast, but I'm a newb. Please correct that in me if it's wrong) and let it decel from there with my hands off, there's no wobble at all, whereas when I'm in gear during the decel with no hands it will wobble almost every time. I always thought it had something to do with the slight raise in vibration when engine braking. As for fixing it, I have no idea! Sorry. Not a mechanic by any sense of the word. __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

April 18th, 2009, 06:54 PM	#107
c_anglada ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Tobyhanna, PA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 51	do you have the stock bars or clipons?

April 18th, 2009, 08:49 PM	#108
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	Stock bars. Clipons are yet to come. I re-tested after that last post and found that it does wobble a little after 40mph even in neutral, but it wobbles MUCH more obviously and violently when engine braking. Just what I found. Hope it helps. __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

April 18th, 2009, 11:09 PM	#109
ninjabrewer dirty old man Name: Chris Location: Hazel Green, AL Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Kelly, what is the status on your wobble? nb __________________________________________________ Death tugs at my ear and says, "Live, I am coming." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) www.friendsofsanonofre.org

April 18th, 2009, 11:19 PM	#110
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	still the same. I haven't done anything after the rear wheel alignment. still mulling it over, but I think the next step is to pull the front wheel back off and check the steering stem for tightness. I have a suspicion I may have gotten bum tire from the get go.

April 19th, 2009, 09:14 AM	#111
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Ever think of getting apehangers? Those clipons are hard on your wrists. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

April 19th, 2009, 10:39 AM	#112
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Kelly, I just bought a GSXR 1000 and as I was going through the gsxr forum I noticed this thread. front end wobble -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i have a 03 1000 bought it 3 weeks ago the first 2 times i rode it if i let go of the bars there was no wobble i replaced the upper triple tree rode it yesterday now when i let go of the bars they wobble any ideals? Re: front end wobble -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I had this on my 05 zx6r and i ended up tightening the steering head up a bit and it solved my problem.. ps- i had no noticeable slop in the bearings when lifted from the frame, although the service manual stated the head shouldnt "return" if you bounce the steering off the stop lightly, and mine did, so i just gave it a few taps with a hammer and snugged it up, perfect after that. Just some information, I'm not sure if it is good or bad. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

April 19th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#113
stroked59 ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: O*C California Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 2505 Posts: 98	you could always install an Ohlins stabilizer........

April 19th, 2009, 10:51 AM	#114
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Thanks. I know loose steering head adjusters can lead to the wobbles, but that doesn't explain why this all started after I changed the tire. I'll check it out though as that's what I've figured out might be a cause of the wobble. GSXR 1000, huh??? have fun, my friend!

April 19th, 2009, 04:34 PM	#115
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Kelly, I've been picking up bikes to cheap to pass up. $6000 for a 03 Lowrider (3000 miles) and I only paid $2000 for the 06 GSXR 1000 (8000 miles). I have to add that they were through people I knew. I didn't find them on the classified. Just folks that needed money. I just missed a 69 Bonneville in good shape for $800. I'm more on a Norton guy anyway. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

April 19th, 2009, 04:37 PM	#116
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	damn... how many bikes in your stable right now?

April 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#117
wyckedflesh ninjette.org guru Name: Mikel Location: Valley of the Sun Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Blue Kawasaki KLE650 Versys, '95 Ducati 900SS/CR (undergoing track conversion) Posts: 287	Before you can the front tire, dismount the tire from the rim, then remount it. Another thing to think about Kelly, how windy is it when you trying to do this? Does your jacket flap and flutter easily? The wind tugging on your jacket will cause you to shift your weight in small amounts. When your hands are on the bars, your hands by reflex counter the shift in weight, but without your hands on the bars, your weight shift transfers to the steering in small amounts. On a bike as light as the 250R, it is easily noticeable. Depending on how pronounced the profile of the tire is, say, more triangular, it gives you a smaller amount of footprint, which will also add to the slight shake. Just something to think about.