First Synthetic Oil Change

[nah.uhh]

I wouldnt run the oil for the reccomended 7.5k miles, I'd change it every 3000(5000km) or less. Personally I swap at 2k miles or less(~3200km) but I run my bike hard all day. You can't change the filter without draining the oil, your filter should last as long as your oil. Don't use fram filters. The oil looking dirty means it is doing its job and keeping the dirt off the engine parts.

I don't know aboutyour rust spots :s
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[Kitdog]

Originally Posted by ScorpionNinja

I use 1.7 quarts of WD40 for my 250R

How many cans is that?

[seldom]

Originally Posted by nah.uhh

I wouldnt run the oil for the reccomended 7.5k miles, I'd change it every 3000(5000km) or less. Personally I swap at 2k miles or less(~3200km) but I run my bike hard all day. You can't change the filter without draining the oil, your filter should last as long as your oil. Don't use fram filters. The oil looking dirty means it is doing its job and keeping the dirt off the engine parts.

I don't know aboutyour rust spots :s

Yeah that makes sense. If you run your bike hard all day it only makes sense if you change it more often than recommended. I think I'll change it again at 6000k so that'll be around 3000km since my last oil/filter change. Would I need to check anything else apart from that like spark plug etc.. Sorry I'm not too mechnically minded but everyday is a learning curve for me.

As for the rust spots I see a rusty stain trail off the bolts on the exhaust and at the end of the stand where the water usualy could sit. I always run my engine and go for a good long ride after every wash and dry. Usually I use a nylon scourer during wash over the screw and bolt where it's looks like rusty stain and they come off usually but a few weeks later I would see the stain trail again as if the water driped off the screw and and dried and discoloured into rust colour. If that makes any sense.

Are the Hi Flo filters any good. I'm in Perth Australia and it's like a village city and we are a few decades behind so we can't get alot of things here. I rang around for Wax filters and the shops have never heard of the brand.
I finally found a store that sells Mobil 1 fully synthetic but I couldn't find 10w40 so instead I went for 15w50 which has the same cold starting temp and min temp never drops below 3 on the coldest winter's night.

Oh and as for the fuel consumption I filled up today and I got 5.09L/100km so that mean I'm geting 46.5 miles/gallon

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by seldom

Would I need to check anything else apart from that like spark plug etc.. Sorry I'm not too mechnically minded but everyday is a learning curve for me.

always trust your MOM.

[seldom]

On what? When to change the oil? The only time I'll trust her on that is when I need to change the oil in the deep fryer.

[kkim]

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10577

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by seldom

On what? When to change the oil? The only time I'll trust her on that is when I need to change the oil in the deep fryer.

MOM = motorcycle owner's manual. it has the same (it is the same, right?) schedule in it as what kkim just posted.

you should always read your MOM before stepping on the bike for the first time.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by alex.s

MOM = motorcycle owner's manual. it has the same (it is the same, right?) schedule in it as what kkim just posted.

yes

[Live2ride]

Ok, I need to change my oil soon and I want to switch to synthetic. I don't believe the po used synthetic, but who cares because I will. I found out which filter I would need from Kkims DIY - Oil Change. Unfortunately no one seems to carry the correct filters locally so I may have to order one from online. Now on to the main problem, I went to Auto zone and found some rotella t6 full synthetic like this:

It doesn't say that it's motorcycle specific and that is why I didn't buy it. Is this the same rotella t6 you guys talked about? They have the mobil 1 racing 4t synthetic ,or w/e it's called, but it would cost me $10 / quart when I can get a gallon of the rotella t6 for $25. Price isn't a factor when it comes to what will perform best in my bike. I got confused because the rotella t6 doesn't say it's motorcycle specific and the mobil 1 does. Will this work in my bike?

[kkim]

yep, that's the stuff.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Preferred_Brands

[Live2ride]

Originally Posted by kkim

yep, that's the stuff.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Preferred_Brands

Kkim, thanks so much! You really help the ninjette community a lot and I just want to let you know it's very much appreciated.

P.s. You dah man!

[BlackNinja]

Originally Posted by Live2ride

Ok, I need to change my oil soon and I want to switch to synthetic. I don't believe the po used synthetic, but who cares because I will. I found out which filter I would need from Kkims DIY - Oil Change. Unfortunately no one seems to carry the correct filters locally so I may have to order one from online. Now on to the main problem, I went to Auto zone and found some rotella t6 full synthetic like this:
It doesn't say that it's motorcycle specific and that is why I didn't buy it. Is this the same rotella t6 you guys talked about? They have the mobil 1 racing 4t synthetic ,or w/e it's called, but it would cost me $10 / quart when I can get a gallon of the rotella t6 for $25. Price isn't a factor when it comes to what will perform best in my bike. I got confused because the rotella t6 doesn't say it's motorcycle specific and the mobil 1 does. Will this work in my bike?

I know you got your answer, but yes. That's the stuff. Used to run it in my ZX-10, and run it now in the 250. It's taken a few hundred miles after the initial oil change, but the shifting is making noticeable improvements. The stuff is awesome...I'm a believer.

[want1sobad]

cody,

wix filters are availble at napa. rebranded as NPS part #ps4941

[Live2ride]

Originally Posted by BlackNinja

I know you got your answer, but yes. That's the stuff. Used to run it in my ZX-10, and run it now in the 250. It's taken a few hundred miles after the initial oil change, but the shifting is making noticeable improvements. The stuff is awesome...I'm a believer.

Great to know, I actually picked up a gallon Omw home from work tonight.

Originally Posted by want1sobad

cody,

wix filters are availble at napa. rebranded as NPS part #ps4941

I went to 4 places today, first was napa, which was closed. It seems like our napa is closed 24 hours a day here because I haven't seen them open at all in the last month . I got their hours and I'm hoping to go get the filter tomorrow. Second was autozone which has the Rotella T6 that I bought; but not my oil filter. Wally world didn't have the filter and neither did advanced auto parts. Napa here I come...please be open.

[cuong-nutz]

Try Pepboys. I picked up a small stock there.

[Live2ride]

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Try Pepboys. I picked up a small stock there.

It's official, not a single store within at least 40 miles has the right oil filter(literally). I don't think there's a pepboys within 1.5 hours from my house so that's out of the question.

[reaubideux]

Do you have O'Reilly Auto Parts stores in your area? In St. Louis, that's the only place locally that has the Wix filters and even then it seems like only 1 location in the area actually stocks them. I'm just lucky that the 1 location is only 6 miles from my office so I can run out at lunch and pick them up; I just always get a couple each time I go since I've been changing the oil so frequently.

We even have Napa stores here but they don't carry the rebranded Wix filters at all, just there cheaper version.

I just did my 4th oil change at 1500 miles, next one @ 2000 will be to the Rotella T6 and then I'll be on the normal oil-change schedule per my MOM.

[reabo]

Preforming my first oil change. I looked at the guide and it says i need 10w40 oil.

I want to use fully Synthetic as its suppose to be best. What i wondering is whats a good brand to use, also how much would i expect to pay for it? I dont want to be ripped of thats all. Im in the uk btw.

I also bought a K&N 401n air filter

[cuz]

The bike love's some Shell Rotella T Synthetic SAE 5W-40 fully synthetic

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rote...1-Gal/14958681

You mean oil filter 401


http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10780


Good luck hope some UK peeps check in

[EsrTek]

Shell Rotella T6 Synthetic here also, really good oil to choose.

[reabo]

Thx for the replies. I can defo use 5w40 instead of 10w40?

I dont have a clue lol. I just follow instructions. Also my bikes the uk fi model not carb. Will it make a differencE?

[EsrTek]

I'm no expert on oil, but couldn't find 1 single 10w-40 synth oil (I know they out there, just none at my local wal-mart)....and so many ppl here run this oil w/o issues I went ahead and did too.

[cuz]

@reabo ALOT of people use this oil not just the ninjette people Im sure its one of the very best oil out there for the 250

@EsrTek try ur trucker stops since this is oil is more focused on them

Link to original page on YouTube.

[alex.s]

it doesnt matter what kind of oil it is if you change it often enough.

[reabo]

I think i found Shell Rotella T Synthetic SAE 5W-40 fully synthetic.

However, it has a list of car on it, no bikes. Is this right? Also its about £26. that sound right?

[cuz]

That's right its not listed for motorcycles but God the ninja lovs it

[EsrTek]

Rotella T6 is the right one, but that price seems high..cost me about $5 per qt which should be about 10quid or side of pond.

[tsdexter]

Originally Posted by EsrTek

Rotella T6 is the right one, but that price seems high..cost me about $5 per qt which should be about 10quid or side of pond.

He's probably looking at the 5L jug. That's the only one I could find after checking 6 stores. Cost me $37 Canadian.

[DennyV]

i just use castrol from advance auto, its like $9 a quart, but you only need 2 and dont really use the all of it

[Samer]

Originally Posted by cuz

That's right its not listed for motorcycles but God the ninja lovs it

The newer Rotella T6 does have the JASO-MA compliance written on the label. So it is official.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Rotella_T

[Jewtoys]

Glad to see my Ninja can take T6. I have a bunch of gals leftover from my EVO

[tsdexter]

Originally Posted by DennyV

i just use castrol from advance auto, its like $9 a quart, but you only need 2 and dont really use the all of it

Castrol GTX? Is that any good?

The reason I ask is because I just used 2 quarts of it to flush my oil before putting in the Rotella T6 - it was on sale 2 for $8 at Wal-Mart, the cheapest they had so I went with it for the flush.

Also, did you get one specific for motorcycles? I didn't realize until after I used it but the Castrol GTX I got was energy conserving which is not good at all for your wet clutch and other parts inside. (will cause premature wear and tear)

Luckily I only used it for a flush so it was only in for 20 mins. You can check the back of your bottle...

[DennyV]

Originally Posted by tsdexter

Castrol GTX? Is that any good?

The reason I ask is because I just used 2 quarts of it to flush my oil before putting in the Rotella T6 - it was on sale 2 for $8 at Wal-Mart, the cheapest they had so I went with it for the flush.

Also, did you get one specific for motorcycles? I didn't realize until after I used it but the Castrol GTX I got was energy conserving which is not good at all for your wet clutch and other parts inside. (will cause premature wear and tear)

Luckily I only used it for a flush so it was only in for 20 mins. You can check the back of your bottle...

I use the motorcyle specific castrol

[tsdexter]

Originally Posted by DennyV

I use the motorcyle specific castrol

Good stuff. Just thought I'd check.

[Ptdoughnut]

I have Royal purple 10w-40 Synthetic waiting for me at my work. Anyone else use this stuff on their bike?

[reabo]

Ok, i ended up buying castrol edge 5w30, fully synthetic. I can use this?

[broilmebk]

5w30?

[reabo]

****... ive bought the wrong one havn't i....

Its defo 5w30.

[DennyV]

Originally Posted by reabo

Ok, i ended up buying castrol edge 5w30, fully synthetic. I can use this?

castrol edge is car oil, you want the oil that castrol makes for motorcycles

[reabo]

Im confused. Comments above say as long as its 5w40 its alright, even if its for a car. Can i get away with 5w30 though?