140 80 17 tires

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by csmith12

I am from KY... hahahahahahah

This is not good! My son registered for college the other day and 2 days a week he has Math Lab.

[RacinNinja]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

This is not good! My son registered for college the other day and 2 days a week he has Math Lab.

icqutudidhere

I read it as Meth Lab the first two times.

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by DEFY

You have already made a weak point in the tire. DO NOT just bump the tire back, that thing needs replaced before the next time you ride going 90 miles and it blows.

That is no bueno

*sigh* at this point I am just feeling defeated. I feel like I cant win... Problem after problem with my bike...

[JohnnyBravo]

I thought it was a meth lab too

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

*sigh* at this point I am just feeling defeated. I feel like I cant win... Problem after problem with my bike...

You can win!!! Lord knows if I can ride anybody can!

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

*sigh* at this point I am just feeling defeated. I feel like I cant win... Problem after problem with my bike...

There is little in life worth doing that is easy, I've had endless problems with mine over the years as well (not just 250s/300s) and I've learned and grown so much because of it. Looking back I can't imagine wanting it to be easier because of the person who I have become as a result of my struggles

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by racinninja

dunlop alpha 13.

They're on the race bike, a new gen ninja. They don't rub at all and stick like glue. 150/60-17.

I do, however, have suspension properly sprung for rider weight. See below, allowed rim width is 3.5-4.0. Dot tires, good for street use.

http://dunlopracing.com/tires-products/alpha-13/

I have many sets of these tires with 1 practice session and 1 race on them for $100 a set. Cheaper if you buy more. Great for the street as the centers are hardly used.

[ZeroGravity360]

At this point I need to get back on my bike ASAP.. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...nner-rear-tire

what about these until next season? They are the cheapest I can find. will 140/70 fit? Anyone know? How easy is it to change the tire your self?

[DEFY]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

*sigh* at this point I am just feeling defeated. I feel like I cant win... Problem after problem with my bike...

Don't take it as being defeated. You came to this community seeking help and we are looking out for you. No body likes to feel as if they have to keep throwing money at something, except for people at a strip club . Take the advice, learn from it and grow. You can't learn anything if you feel you have nothing to learn or gain.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Sirref

There is little in life worth doing that is easy, I've had endless problems with mine over the years as well (not just 250s/300s) and I've learned and grown so much because of it. Looking back I can't imagine wanting it to be easier because of the person who I have become as a result of my struggles

^^^^ this!!!!

EVERY SINGLE ONE of us that have posted in this thread have had our fair share of issues over the years and know exactly how you feel now. It's exactly how many riders feel when the sun is shining and they can't ride.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

I have many sets of these tires with 1 practice session and 1 race on them for $100 a set. Cheaper if you buy more. Great for the street as the centers are hardly used.

^^^^THIS^^^^

[RacinNinja]

I've been working on motorcycles for 20+ years now.

I have someone else change my tires.

[RacinNinja]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

I have many sets of these tires with 1 practice session and 1 race on them for $100 a set. Cheaper if you buy more. Great for the street as the centers are hardly used.

BUY THESE!!!

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by DEFY

Don't take it as being defeated. You came to this community seeking help and we are looking out for you. No body likes to feel as if they have to keep throwing money at something, except for people at a strip club . Take the advice, learn from it and grow. You can't learn anything if you feel you have nothing to learn or gain.

[ZeroGravity360]

there is so much going on right now... Math labs, kittens stippers... I am lost

[allanoue]

Math not Meth
got it

[JohnnyBravo]

That brand comes stock for the 300... Mine lasted 6k, maybe a bit more but I got a nail in the sidewall...

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

That brand comes stock for the 300... Mine lasted 6k, maybe a bit more but I got a nail in the sidewall...

Yeah, at this point I just need a Cheap tire now from a shop I can use the paypal credit from. Motorcycle superstore is the only one i can get it ASAP. I want the 140/70 as they are only 15 more, but will it fit? anyone? I want to order tonight -_-...


http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...nner-rear-tire

[ZeroGravity360]

or even these

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...dial-rear-tire

140 fit?

I need to be able to do it my self.. im sooooooo strapped for cash this month

[verboten1]

Yes, michelin pilot Street is the street tire for this bike. 130/70 is the stock size and it is a wonderful tire.


if you just need a tire, there is a $64 shinko in 130/70 as well

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

Yeah, at this point I just need a Cheap tire now from a shop I can use the paypal credit from. Motorcycle superstore is the only one i can get it ASAP. I want the 140/70 as they are only 15 more, but will it fit? anyone? I want to order tonight -_-...


http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...nner-rear-tire

I have a friend in Indy that has sets of the Dunlops as well. If he doesnt paypal I can and get him the money, you can go pick them up from him.

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

Yeah, at this point I just need a Cheap tire now from a shop

Look at the similar threads box below this, every time i see tires discussed it's 140 70... That's what I would go with
What was the stock a 120 or 130 70?

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Look at the similar threads box below this, every time i see tires discussed it's 140 70... That's what I would go with
What was the stock a 120 or 130 70?

Yea normally the tire website will have width size, but this one doesnt. stock is 130 70, but I dont like it being so "flickable" I hate it actually

[Alex]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...dial-rear-tire

140 fit?

The Pilot Street Radials are very good tires. Spending a little more on them compared to the IRCs is likely worth it, if you can get more life out of them. Some of that is luck (not getting nails), some of that is technique (riding gently), some of that is maintenance (keeping it inflated properly for every ride, and making sure to keep rear wheel/tire aligned as the chain stretches and the tire wears). If the stars align, you might get 15k miles or more out of that rear tire.

130/70 is the standard size made for this bike. It was literally designed by Michelin to perform well on the 250. 140/70 should fit.

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

I need to be able to do it my self.. im sooooooo strapped for cash this month

Do what yourself? Remove the wheel from the bike? Mount the tire to the wheel and balance it? Replace the tire/wheel back onto the bike?

You might be able to find a shop locally that mounts tires to loose wheels pretty inexpensively. There are still shops near here that will do it for $25. You need to get the wheel off the bike, bring them the wheel & new tire, and they will mount/balance the new tire on the wheel (and dispose of the old tire). You then need to re-install the rear wheel back onto the bike.

Mounting the tire onto a wheel isn't trivial. It can be done very easily with the right tools, and it can be done somewhat less easily with lesser tools. No, it's not something that anyone can do themselves easily without some set of tools, strength, and knowledge to be able to mount the tire properly without damaging either the tire or wheel.

I can understand not wanting to pay ~$100 for a shop to uninstall/mount/balance/reinstall, but just getting the tire on the rim has always been worth it for me for them to do the fun part for $20 - $30. Some folks on this site who change their own tires more frequently have invested in tire changer machines. (search "no-mar" for a common brand). Even better than spending your own money for a tire changing machine, is finding a friend locally that may already have one.

[JohnnyBravo]

Get the 140 70 17 then , it is the same diameter and that's what you want, its a pretty tough tire too

[Alex]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

Yea normally the tire website will have width size, but this one doesnt. stock is 130 70, but I dont like it being so "flickable" I hate it actually

You will not feel the difference between 130/140. It's a much larger difference between a new tire and a worn tire as the profile flattens out.

[NevadaWolf]

If you are that strapped for cash - the stock rear IRC 130/70-17 is $90 (listed in your first link). I've been on both 130s and 140s, haven't noticed any difference between the two.

I haven't read through this thread as it's just not anything I'm interested in - but going with the first post of taking it to a shop to have it done - do you have the tools to do a change yourself?

Rear stand to hold the bike up? Socket and wrench to remove the wheel? Spoons and whatever else is needed to get the tire off and back on? Wheel balancer thingy?

I've seen my tire changed over about a half dozen times now and have decided it is not a skill I am interested in knowing. Taking the wheel to a local shop and $25/wheel gets me a swapped and balanced tire. All I have to do is take it off the bike and put it back on.

[JohnnyBravo]

Math labs, an strippers, an kitties oh my

[SLOWn60]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Math labs, an strippers, an tires oh my

You need a stripper willing to take the rubber off. Do the math: that's going to cost more than a $100

.....aaaand I'm off to the penalty box. Time to re-engage the ignore shield!

[JohnnyBravo]

I have to google this math lab bust

[snot]

Here is a short to the point post....

Buy the correct size tire for the bike, have it installed correctly, then ride.

DO NOT ride until it is fixed regardless of "wanting to" or pride.

[JohnnyBravo]

she is our commanding safety officer in charge

[InvisiBill]

https://www.jakewilson.com/p/1742/46...otorcycle-Tire is a couple bucks cheaper on the 130 too.

I doubt you'll notice a difference in flickability between a 130 and a 140 rear. The 140 may actually be a bit more pinched even, giving it a rounder profile. The flickability will depend much more on the front tire and front end setup.

The 140 should fit if you really want it, but it is a larger tire - 10mm wider and 14mm taller. The 130 ensures you'll have absolutely no fitment problems or handling weirdness due to different suspension measurements.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

*sigh* at this point I am just feeling defeated. I feel like I cant win... Problem after problem with my bike...

No! We learn through failure. It sucks, it's expensive, and it's tiring; but it always works. You'll get this thing fixed, you'll know in the future what questions to ask and what red flags to look for. Plus, once you take that damaged tire off, you can keep it somewhere because old tires make bases for setting down your tank when you take it off the bike and need to put it somewhere.

Originally Posted by RacinNinja

I've been working on motorcycles for 20+ years now.

I have someone else change my tires.

^^^this. For real though. Tires are a black box for me too. They just go on the bike and I don't want anything to do with changing them.

ZG360, it's totally okay to have black box items on your car or motorcycle now and again. For me, it's tires and transmissions.

Originally Posted by csmith12

EVERY SINGLE ONE of us that have posted in this thread have had our fair share of issues over the years and know exactly how you feel now. It's exactly how many riders feel when the sun is shining and they can't ride.

Bro. I have a really expensive piece of paper from a lovely university that says that I'm qualified to be called "smart". (whatever actually being smart feels like, I'm not entirely sure... ) Wanna know what I've been fighting with for the last 2 months? A G-D bicycle of all things. I cannot, for the life of me, get it to stop creaking whenever I hit things on the trail. Seriously. Replaced every bearing, taken apart and cleaned and greased and reinstalled every part I can. Know what happens? creaky creaky creaky. It's something so simple, but it's kicking me squarely in the caboose.

ZG360, my point here is that it never goes right. You can be a master mechanic or a rocket scientist and you're still going to find something that kicks your butt once in a while. Take it as a good opportunity to learn something new! I know I can be a blunt instrument in conversations, as well as voicing a rude sense of humor at times and I know that maybe I've been a bit abrasive with you, but I don't want you to make bad decisions from being rushed and I really don't wish injury on you from riding a bad tire.

[ZeroGravity360]

So Ya'll know im not *completely* insane



I can still do meth I mean math

if im reading this right it does say 2-3mm

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by ZeroGravity360

The only thing I could find was 140/70/17 and 150/70/17
But the tire I was buying said the 140/70/17 version only fit a 4.0 rim. The 140/80/17 said it was for a 3.5 rim (ninja 250 size in the manual for the rear tire) So I searched this Forum and even google and NO ONE said anything about being careful about it rubbing the BACK of the swing arm so it never even crossed my mind. So what I did is went back to their website and made sure the width of the tire would fit. I took measurments of my old tire and made sure! So i DID do my research before buying this tire! It's not like I went out and just willy nilly bought a tire. I checked the measurements and everything! This is why I am so frustrated lol! I spend a lot of time trying to make sure this tire would fit and then this happens...

130/70/17 is the stock size, you failed to find anything referring to that?
The user manual that comes with the bike lists it, the label on the swingarm lists it.

You know what the numbers mean right?

130 width of the tyre in mm
70 hight as a percentage of width
17 diamater of rim

you went up a size in both width and height, you took away 21mm (~4/5 in) of clearance.

At least now anyone else thiniking the same will have some evidence of why not to & you've saved them a few quid

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

130/70/17 is the stock size, you failed to find anything referring to that?
The user manual that comes with the bike lists it, the label on the swingarm lists it.

You know what the numbers mean right?

130 width of the tyre in mm
70 hight as a percentage of width
17 diamater of rim

you went up a size in both width and height, you took away 21mm (~4/5 in) of clearance.

At least now anyone else thiniking the same will have some evidence of why not to & you've saved them a few quid

I meant when I was searching to size up. sorry for the confusion

[JohnnyBravo]

Can you get a knee down on that stool ZG3?

[ZeroGravity360]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Can you get a knee down on that stool ZG3?

LMFAO!!! omg thats hilarious! I changed it to be more my head xD butI might change it back just because of this comment... :-/ I'm stooled until i can get a new tire i guess...

Edit: I AM GOING TO LEARN TO DRAG KNEE ON THIS STOOL IF IT TAKES ALLLLLLLLL NIGHT!! *scoot scoot* no more *vroom vroom* xD

[JohnnyBravo]

It sucks when you make a mistake and learn a lesson, but it a fact of life that these things do happen now and then.

Most everybody around here had a knee down pic at one time or another... On Kid toys, playground equipment, chairs, bikes, bout anything you can imagine... ethioKnight (that was one cool cat, but before my time, look for his scooter video!) may have started it, some still do it, it's always fun!