Where does this screw go?

[PistolPete93]

I have this screw left over after taking my bike apart, can't figure out where it goes.
Anybody know? Notice the blue paint on it

[Joshorilla]

Looks like a seat screw.

[sLick415]

What were you taking apart?

[PistolPete93]

Originally Posted by sLick415

What were you taking apart?

I had the bike stripped, was going to clean the carbs but then gave up because it seems impossible to get around the airbox. So it may be in that area but as far as I remember all the screws in that area are in place

[cookiebug79]

Upper fairing screw? Is it a 4mm?

[PistolPete93]

Originally Posted by cookiebug79

Upper fairing screw? Is it a 4mm?

5.85 mm, and it has blue paint on it

[sLick415]

Well from memory theres 2 on each lower fairing, 2 on the seat (including shoulder washers), some on the lower cowling but im assuming you never touched that, and thats about it if you were just getting into the carbs. Theres some on the air filter cover but I think those were black?

[Joshorilla]

Originally Posted by sLick415

Well from memory theres 2 on each lower fairing, 2 on the seat (including shoulder washers), some on the lower cowling but im assuming you never touched that, and thats about it if you were just getting into the carbs. Theres some on the air filter cover but I think those were black?

The air filter covers are philips heads and the two each side at the lower back fairings fairings are longer I believe.

[cookiebug79]

Originally Posted by PistolPete93

5.85 mm, and it has blue paint on it

the hex head itself is 5.85mm? or the length of the threads?

I'm asking about the hex head. What size allen key fits in it? If the 4mm allen key fits in it, I'm guessing it's a fairing bolt and that your bike is blue. Check the underside in the front of your bike.

[sLick415]

Oh yeah theres 2 of those that connects the airbox to the frame. One on top and one on bottom kind of behind the carbs on the left side.

[alex.s]

those are used throughout the bike. for securing plastic pieces to metal.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by PistolPete93

Where does this screw go?

That is not a screw,............it is a bolt.

[PistolPete93]

Originally Posted by sLick415

Oh yeah theres 2 of those that connects the airbox to the frame. One on top and one on bottom kind of behind the carbs on the left side.

Where is the one on top of the airbox? I remember the one on the left side, behind the carbs. That one is in for sure

[PistolPete93]

Solved: After talking to my dad about how that always happened to him on his bikes, he took a look at it and found where it went within 10 seconds. Thanks for the help guys. Heart attack averted. It was the one for the airbox, behind the bar that holds the tank in place

[cookiebug79]

Sweet! Glad you got that figured out!

[Cycle Randy]

I have a screw loose. some say I'm nuts too.

[Joshorilla]

Originally Posted by Motofool

That is not a screw,............it is a bolt.

I would probably call it a bolt too, but screw is also acceptable as there is no actual universally agreed distinction between the two.

[GlassAnkles]

Originally Posted by g21-30

There are NO philips head screws on a Japanese bike. Only JIS bolts.

a pregens airbox halves are assembled with actual phillips head screws

they have threads like a wood screw to

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by g21-30

There are NO philips head screws on a Japanese bike. Only JIS bolts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes...rial_Standards

JIS is japanese standard. you still have philips head in JIS. all the bolts on all fresh-from-factory kawasakis are JIS. the side covers are JIS button-end philips head.




also, the difference between a screw and a bolt:

a bolt is slid into position, a nut is fastened onto the bolt. bolts are usually to secure two structural pieces together.
a screw is inserted into a structural part to fasten something down. for example the bodywork. so all of the bodywork fastners are actually screws (except the plastic rivets of course)

so, not only is it not a JIS bolt, its a JIS philips head screw. so really, you're completely wrong in every way.

[Joshorilla]

+1 i was going to argue but couldn't be arsed.

Is it just me or does JIS Bolt sound like a nickname for a male specific organ to anyone else?.....

[alex.s]

just you.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

...........you still have philips head in JIS.........

Friendly and pedantic correction: You still have cruciform drive in JIS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip...river#Phillips

"Created by Henry F. Phillips (1890–1958), the Phillips screw drive was purposely designed to cam out when the screw stalled, to prevent the fastener damaging the work or the head, instead damaging the driver. This was caused by the relative difficulty in building torque limiting into the early drivers.

The importance of the crosshead screw design lies in its self-centering property, useful on automated production lines that use powered screwdrivers. Phillips' major contribution was in driving the crosshead concept forward to the point where it was adopted by screwmakers and automobile companies.

The JIS B 1012 is commonly found in Japanese equipment. It looks like a Phillips screw, but is designed not to cam out and will, therefore, be damaged by a Phillips screwdriver if it is too tight. Heads are usually identifiable by a single dot or an "X" to one side of the cross slot. Specific "JIS" standardized cruciform-blade screwdrivers are available for this type of screw."

[Joshorilla]

And thisis why I couldn't be arsed

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Friendly correction: You still have cruciform drive in JIS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip...river#Phillips

"Created by Henry F. Phillips (1890–1958), the Phillips screw drive was purposely designed to cam out when the screw stalled, to prevent the fastener damaging the work or the head, instead damaging the driver. This was caused by the relative difficulty in building torque limiting into the early drivers.

The importance of the crosshead screw design lies in its self-centering property, useful on automated production lines that use powered screwdrivers. Phillips' major contribution was in driving the crosshead concept forward to the point where it was adopted by screwmakers and automobile companies."

i love it when i'm wrong!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ves#JIS_B_1012

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

i love it when i'm wrong!

As the schematic that you posted shows, you were not wrong, in essence.

I just wanted to show future readers of this thread, that the Phillips concept of the cruciform slots has changed with time into some variations, like the Japanese one.

As the linked article explains, there are subtle differences between screwdrivers of both types that lead to easily ruin a JIS head with a Phillips driver.