August 20th, 2011, 02:22 PM | #1 |
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Pre group buy gauges
For some reason I could not post on the classifieds section but it might fit better here anyways. Alex you can move where ever you think it fits better.
Ok the big question how many of you guys would be willing to buy a universal digital gauge for under $100? The plan is: I buy one nice looking Chinese made gauge. They seem of decent quality in the few pictures I have seen. It looks a lot like the Koso , obviously not as many futures and not expecting the same build quality. I am expecting it to be of decent quality, every future should be usable and accurate. Once I get the gauge I will begin the process of installing it, I will document and take pictures of the installation and compile it into a DIY. will review the gauge and give sincere thoughts about quality, accuracy, looks, durability etc. Wile doing all this I will be in talks with the supplier to negotiate a better price. I will have to give him a figure on how many people I expect to buy. Once we agree on price, we will start the actual group buy, hopefully most people that originally sign up will go through with the buy. Once we pay for the merchandise it would be ship to me, where I will separate individually and send to the respective addresses. So again the question,This is assuming that after my review we find out that the gauge is of good quality, durability, accuracy etc. are you in the market for a decent/good digital gauge for under $100? I am not asking for people to commit, I am trying to figure out if there is a marker for lower end gauges (=<$100) that work as advertised or if most people would tick to brand name stuff. The RPMs on the gauge below only go to 11k but the seller says he also has some that go to 14k. Here are futures of the gauge RPM meter Speedometer Tachometer Fuel quantity Clock L/R turn signal light High beam light Neutral/park light Water temp Trip meter Last futzed with by jonnyc; August 20th, 2011 at 04:37 PM. |
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August 20th, 2011, 02:26 PM | #2 |
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Unless I'm having an off morning I'm fairly sure our bikes rev higher than that gauge displays.
Also, neutral light? How the the fuel quantity displayed? |
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August 20th, 2011, 02:36 PM | #3 | |
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Yeah sorry about that, they don't have good English and I copied and pasted a few things. I'll fix it. I think they meant to say Nuetral/parking light instead of shift/brake light. As far as rpm he said they have one that goes up to 14k |
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August 20th, 2011, 03:41 PM | #4 |
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HOLY crap! thats awesome, please report. I would be all over this!
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August 20th, 2011, 03:50 PM | #5 |
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August 20th, 2011, 04:16 PM | #6 |
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Would a 636 gauge fin on our bikes? Of course with a little modding
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August 20th, 2011, 04:19 PM | #7 |
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I would take a serious look once you do the install and review.
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August 20th, 2011, 04:23 PM | #8 |
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Wow, this is my one qualm with my little ninja...the lack of digital readouts. How difficult is one of these to install? I'll definitely keep looking back for updates
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August 20th, 2011, 04:27 PM | #9 | |
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What I am trying to figure out is if there is a marker for lower end gauges that still good or if most people would stick to brand name $300 gauges. |
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August 20th, 2011, 04:41 PM | #10 |
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If it works, I'm in
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August 20th, 2011, 04:47 PM | #11 |
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So I am going to start a list, like I said before this is more to count how many people are interested and if the gauge turns out good they will get first dibs incase there is a good demand. You are not actually committing to anything.
If interested (you have the $$ and want to replace the stock gauge) add yourself to the list. Potential buyers:
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August 20th, 2011, 04:58 PM | #12 |
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I am very interested as well but I don't easily get convinced, I'll wait for your review.
And as I have no knowledge about this: how cheap is <100 USD compared to other gauges? Potential buyers: 1. Cuongism 2. The big mike
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August 20th, 2011, 05:11 PM | #13 |
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August 20th, 2011, 06:41 PM | #14 |
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Count me in , if everthing works ok.
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August 20th, 2011, 07:00 PM | #15 |
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August 21st, 2011, 10:14 AM | #16 |
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is it easy to install like plug and play? Any way count me in
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August 21st, 2011, 11:18 AM | #17 |
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August 21st, 2011, 11:56 AM | #18 |
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August 21st, 2011, 01:22 PM | #19 |
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August 21st, 2011, 04:16 PM | #20 |
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August 21st, 2011, 04:26 PM | #21 |
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August 21st, 2011, 05:04 PM | #22 |
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August 21st, 2011, 05:30 PM | #23 |
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Pending accuracy and cleanliness of install, I am interested.
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August 21st, 2011, 05:50 PM | #24 |
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Would the sub-$100 price include shipping (to Canada)? I may be interested, but will also be waiting on reviews.
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August 21st, 2011, 05:51 PM | #25 |
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If it is awesome, but I want to see how it turns out first.
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August 21st, 2011, 07:25 PM | #26 |
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that's definitely a great deal for a digital cluster. but of course that depends on the quality, if its broken after 6 months because of some low quality build, then it would defeat the point of getting it in the 1st place.
however, a lot of people would jump on this opportunity if its available, since the Koso kits are too expensive for most. found this info on the web~ http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/2...OSO-RX1N-.html but is says that the product is not available anymore from that site~ you might need to make some sort of bracket to fit it into the OEM cluster hole, and possibly a P&P harness, so that people with less experience don't end up with a mess splicing the cables, lol
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August 21st, 2011, 07:30 PM | #27 |
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I was getting a Koso, but I'm definitely in for this at that price.
1. Cuongism 2. The big mike 3. Kevin2109 4. Ninjagaiden 5. Vnranger 6. Minnesotah 7. bob706 8. etiainen 9. kaiserz 10. dk58 11. donger 12. AeroXtasy |
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August 21st, 2011, 08:02 PM | #28 |
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August 21st, 2011, 08:38 PM | #29 |
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Honestly, the pictured unit does look pretty cheap...
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August 21st, 2011, 09:24 PM | #30 |
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August 21st, 2011, 09:30 PM | #31 |
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:18 AM | #32 |
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Hey guys I need your help.
What size is the stock front tire? (xxx / xx-xx) The manufacturer has to program the tire size. I guess this would mean it could fit any tire. The only proven is that we might not be able to set this ourselves. Here is the instructions, see if you guys can figure it out. At work and only looked at great for a sec. |
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:19 AM | #33 |
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I think the important questions should be:
1. How does it receive it's speed signal? How accurate is this method? 2. How do you plan on resolving the L/R turn signal indicators? the 08-09 models have 1 wire harnesses.
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:22 AM | #34 |
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1. Cuongism
2. The big mike 3. Kevin2109 4. Ninjagaiden 5. Vnranger 6. Minnesotah 7. bob706 8. etiainen 9. kaiserz 10. dk58 11. donger 12. AeroXtasy 13. Swampotter 14. Crriiissss |
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:26 AM | #35 | |
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Don't know the accuracy. I think stock system uses something similar. How does the stock guage know what blinked is turned on? |
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:29 AM | #36 |
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The stock gauge has only 1 light. Both harnesses from the turn signals converge into a single wire which leads to the light.
Magnet and sensor is the same pick up used in the Koso gauge, so it should be accurate. It wouldn't surprise me if they either manufacture them for koso or just stole the design.
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:34 AM | #37 |
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:51 AM | #38 |
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If that's the same setup, then I wonder about how accurate the speed will be. My koso speedo came with 6 magnets, not 1. Although I guess as long it's calibrated right, it shouldn't be a huge issue. The one thing is that it will not likely be sensitive to changes in speed very quickly. The more magnets the speedo can read, the better/faster it is at changing the speed read out. I wonder if you could hack the koso speedo to work on this gauge tho?
Other things you would need to address: Water temperature- does it come with any sensors? If not, water temp isn't going to work. What does it use to trigger the oil light? I'm not trying to ruin your potential project. I think it's great you're going to go for it. I just want you to be ready for all the little things the seller isn't telling you.
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August 22nd, 2011, 09:55 AM | #39 |
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Is it the same problem with all the aftermarket ones besides koso? I want to put a ZX10r gauge on mine, is it possible?
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August 22nd, 2011, 10:02 AM | #40 |
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Unless the zx10 uses the same mechanical sensor, u will likely need to figure out a way to give it an electronic signal. Only the tach is electrical afaik.
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