December 17th, 2011, 04:45 PM | #1 |
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Have you gone pure track? Do you miss street riding?
Pretty self explanatory. I'm seriously considering this. Anyone here gone track only? Did you regret it or miss riding on street?
Reasons/justifications : 1) I wanna track regularly. I tracked once and I'm hooked. Need to get MORE of it. 2) I have a car and a motorcycle and I have only one parking spot where I'm moving. The bike will be parked at work 99% of the time. 3) I live 3 miles from work. Really not much riding there. 4) Hey it's actually safer! 5) No insurance / registration which will save me $80/month. That can go towards tracking! 6) I can sell my street gear! That's 3 track days right there! lol |
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December 17th, 2011, 05:03 PM | #2 |
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Depends on how close you are to your local tracks, transporting a bike between tracks can be costly... riding a single track all the time can get boring..
I went through a set of tires aout 5-6 sessions, with tire warmers maybe 8 sessions.. that equates to about 1500-2200 mi. on a set of tires. Track events cost about $120 per day-$200 per weekend... that's on the cheap side. You put maybe 200 mi. on a weekend at the most. If you still think track is less costly.. go for it. |
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December 17th, 2011, 05:13 PM | #3 |
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I'm sorry if my post sounded like this was totally a financial decision.
it's more like, option A : track + street option B : only track so A will always be costlier transporting will be my car + hitch + trailer. trailer can be stored at work with the bike. So i guess my only concern is missing street riding too much Oh and yeah I'm close to Chuckwalla, Buttonwillow, and Streets of Willow. Chuckwalla is furthest and it's 180 miles. There's more but I made a calendar for 2012 and these 3 are the ones I'll be going. |
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December 17th, 2011, 08:02 PM | #4 |
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You really need to consider how many track events you want to do.
-Once a week, 3-4 times a month or 5-6 times a year? That could allow you to estimate your budget for riding track only. -Car, trailer both require registration and insureance, no? This is just my personal consideration, but I wouldn't leave my vehicle/property at my work location, unless there is 24/7 security camera watching my vehicle/property. |
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December 17th, 2011, 08:23 PM | #5 | |
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Car already has registration. So that's not adding to my budget. Trailer registiration is dirt cheap. insurance? i don't believe so but i'll look into it. Bike will actually be stored inside the studio I work at. We're only 9 people and they are very cool with this stuff. Hell they'd even love it as a decoration. We have bicycles hanging off the walls and sporting goods everywhere around the studio! We also have alarmed doors and everything. My boss' bike is parked inside the building throughout the year pretty much Purdy good deal. I know I sound like I'm trying to convince myself. you know the justification process hehe |
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December 17th, 2011, 09:35 PM | #6 |
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Well, I went track only for about 4 months before I picked up a dedicated street bike. Honestly, while the SV is great and all, I don't find myself having much desire at all to ride it. I mean, it's nice getting free choice school parking again, and it's convenient to split lanes to save a little time in brutal traffic, but street riding just... isn't fun to me anymore. At first I thought it would drive me crazy not being able to ride between track days, but I go often enough that it really didn't at all, and the more I try to get back into street riding, the more I've been realizing that I really don't enjoy it. Gas savings are nice and all, and if I end up with a long commute I might feel differently, but right now I'm already pretty strongly considering taking the SV off the street, too, next season.
I'd say do a few more track days, see if you find yourself having any urge or interest in street riding, and go from there. If you already feel like you won't miss it though, you probably won't |
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December 18th, 2011, 12:31 AM | #7 | |
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I won't type my usual line here and upset the ninjette crowd PS: How often do you track? I feel like once a month would be fairly expensive but keep me happy enough. Quench my bike thirst, so to speak. |
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December 18th, 2011, 12:39 AM | #8 |
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i will probably make my 250 a pure track bike ONCE i pick up another street bike.
I don't miss canyon riding at all, but i do find it necessary to have a street bike as commuting or occasional group rides. |
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December 18th, 2011, 09:42 AM | #9 |
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I'm sort of the opposite. I've never been on the track, though sometimes I think about it. I ride nearly 100%, only driving the cage if I need to buy something that won't fit in my saddlebags or for ice/snow (a rarity here). I keep detailed records of my finances and determined that in fuel/oil savings alone I broke even on the bike/gear purchase after a little over 24 months, and have been "making" money ever since.
Riding in commuter traffic isn't fun anymore because of the tailgaters and texters, but I also go on lots of out of town trips, some over 800 miles, and those are fun (and money-saving!). If I do go get some lessons on the track, I'll be wanting to do it with a throwaway bike because of the risk of crashing, and I'll be doing it for fun rather than for experience that translates to safer commuting. To the OP, if you had a truck you could keep the bike in the back of it and solve the one-spot parking dilemma. |
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Here's the thing...There's only a handful of people I know that ride both street & track and the rest (100+) all track their bike once they've been bitten by the track bug. Here's the reason behind that...after a trackday/race the adrenaline (a.k.a. fix) stays in your system for a good two to three weeks. In addition, your body needs time to recoup from exhaustion/soreness/etc. so the need to ride on the street isn't really there. The worse part of tracking is once the "fix" wears off your body goes through withdrawals and all you could do is think about getting back on the track, not so much the street because the fix is VERY DIFFERENT between street riding and tracking/racing. Basically, street riding doesn't cut it. It's like trying to get the same effect from weed by smoking a cigarette which doesn't cut it. Btw, I don't condone the use of illegal drugs. The only drugs I do condone is "trackday/racing". Other reason(s) why most do away with street riding is: -Should we fall prey to an accident it just delays our chances of getting back on the track. And you know what happens when a druggie can't get his/her fix. - We realize just how dangerous street riding is compared to the track - Doesn't provide the same adrenaline (a.k.a. fix) One thing new trackers need to understand is to never try to seek your fix on the streets. This is very dangerous if they do so! How you can tell if you're doing this? Simple...you'll speed, make aggressive passes/turns, try to drag knee, hang off,...basically mimic track riding on the streets. Attempting these riding moves on the streets is not only dangerous for you but it's also dangerous for other motorists/bystanders. Keep it on the track! Quote:
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December 18th, 2011, 11:35 PM | #11 | |
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December 18th, 2011, 11:45 PM | #12 | |
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Thank you sir, well done. I'm more convinced than ever (like I needed any more convincing) I'll check on the insurance thing. I did hear about this before but not sure if my insurance covers it. And I totally agree. Chuckwalla is next on my schedule but I can't wait to go back to Buttonwillow and improve my time! I can probably go another 100 times and not get bored |
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December 19th, 2011, 11:23 AM | #13 |
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No way in hell
Boy, and my old lady calls ME Mr. Opposite! Mother Nature has as much to do with riding for me as that 13 mile of country blacktop with 26 curves.
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December 19th, 2011, 11:38 AM | #14 |
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I think some of those reasons are why I haven't gone yet. I know part of the reason is that I really just can't afford it... but I also know that if I do it I'm going to get hooked and find street riding less desirable.
Either way Gurk, good luck in whatever you choose to do!!
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December 19th, 2011, 02:03 PM | #15 | |
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December 19th, 2011, 02:52 PM | #16 |
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After my first trackday, I immediately became a member at the track - which allows for at least one day a week dedicated to bikes. It is only a few bucks a month with each "event" costing $90 or less. Riding the streets on the ZX6R has lost some of its' appeal, but not all.
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December 19th, 2011, 02:58 PM | #17 | |
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If you take some time to reseach for time (of day) and places to ride near you; more than likely you would be able to find some decent roads with little traffic and LEO enforcement that allow you to have some 'fun' without the heavy overhead cost of track riding. Luckily for me, 1/2 mile from my driveway is an empty office park with freshly paved 1.2 mi. loop with 6 turns and 3 sweepers, large empty parking lots that can easily accomodate autocross or moto gymkhana type competition.
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December 19th, 2011, 03:14 PM | #18 |
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That's what i did! I said "our social group" meaning the guys I went there with that Dustin knows in person.
Anyway. At the moment, I'm not very interested in being able to do the stuff in your links. Maybe someday when I have a bike I can trash, I might! I do have a lot of respect for those guys. Not gonna be me any time soon tho. |
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December 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM | #19 | |
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Moto gymkhana is something you can easily pratice and master without trashing any bike, all you need is an empty parking lot, some cones and time to ride. |
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December 19th, 2011, 03:41 PM | #20 |
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gurk, im going to argue against a point you arent making just to argue with you. suck it.
not having to track prep a street bike every time is nice. you can get rid of a lot of things if you arent going to be on the street also. plus we all know your girlfriend confiscated your nuts so its understandable that you dont want to be on the street anymore. that being said i still enjoy the street. theres nothing quite like the thrill of people actively trying to kill you. plus when you are on the track its a lot harder to "ride like a dick" since everyone is riding like dicks (in the good way)
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December 19th, 2011, 04:50 PM | #23 | |
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Really, if you think you might have greater chance hurting yourself practicing Gymkhana, best of luck to you (and everyone else riding in your sessions) at the track, make sure you read the fine print before participating and understand the waivers. |
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December 19th, 2011, 05:50 PM | #24 | |
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December 19th, 2011, 06:20 PM | #25 |
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But man seriously what's your deal? why would you assume that I'm dangerous to others in my sessions? I know I would suck at gymkhana because I suck at low speed maneuvers. How the hell does that make me dangerous at the friggin track where you rarely go slower than 60mph? Why do you take it so personally that I don't have interest practicing gymkhana? I don't get my panties in a bunch when people say track is bs? Anyway.. |
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December 19th, 2011, 06:35 PM | #29 |
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Alright it's a comprehension issue on your part
I'll leave it at that. |
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December 19th, 2011, 06:40 PM | #30 | |
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December 19th, 2011, 07:06 PM | #34 |
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Post vid. I mean, for all we know you may have something here. I for one want to see what you're talking about and not from someone else's vid.
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December 19th, 2011, 07:12 PM | #36 |
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Yes I believe my track riding although nowhere near at a level I'd like it to be, is way above parking lot maneuvers. It's a TOTALLY different skill set. It's like saying someone is an amazing stunter just cause they have fastest lap times. It's retarded logic.
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December 19th, 2011, 07:26 PM | #37 |
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I still love street riding, i still love to just jump on my bike and ride near the beach or just go places. I do speed but not to get the thrill i do at the track just because i always speed. I hate artificial speed limits.
jus ge race plastics then if you miss it you can just put your street plastics back on to ride street. |
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