Straight or Curves?

Abu_Mishary · March 29th, 2016, 08:11 PM

Saw a poster the other day, which stated :

"Straights are for fast bikes. Turns are for fast riders."

Is this statement true?

Which one are you? A speed demon or a cornering king?

HoneyBadgerRy · March 29th, 2016, 08:32 PM

Corners. All the way. Is that even a question, who buys a ninja 250 to top it out in a straight line? I take that back, we all know exactly who does that.

Sorry Eric

Sirref · March 29th, 2016, 08:34 PM

why not both?

if I could afford both I'd have both, but corners > straights

Motofool · March 29th, 2016, 08:43 PM

Copied from "Embracing the Mysterious Limits of Riding":

http://www.motorcycl...mits_of_riding/

"Making leaps of faith into the unknown by hoping the bike will do your biding often finds riders biting off more than they can chew." - Keith Code

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abu_Mishary

......... Is this statement true?

Not necessarily.

You can master cornering at any speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abu_Mishary

Which one are you? A speed demon or a cornering king?

I just enjoy riding very much.
Smelling the roses becomes more important when your days of riding are coming to an end.

DanteCoal · March 29th, 2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Smelling the roses becomes more important when your days of riding are coming to an end.

This just broke my heart.

Abu_Mishary · March 29th, 2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DanteCoal

This just broke my heart.

Eh? Why Dante?

Mohawk · March 30th, 2016, 05:27 AM

Car or Bike, straight line = straight line. In the corners only a bike can do what a bike can do. Whilst there is an art to faster cornering in a car, its all to do with touch & feel.
On a bike there is so much more used to corner & so much more feedback, plus it can be exhilerating at any speed, where as in a car a corner has to be taken on the limit to get your blood flowing.

For me fast corners are the place to be, but I like flip flop nagery chicanes too

Abbey Curve at Silverstone or the Craner Curves at Donington Park are amazing 100mph plus corners, with the bike on its ear, yeah baby

Ralgha · March 30th, 2016, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadgerRy

Corners. Ask the way. Is that even a question, who buys a ninja 250 to top it out in a straight line? I take that back, we all know exactly who does that.

Sorry Eric

If I'm going straight, it's at redline!

HoneyBadgerRy · March 30th, 2016, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralgha

If I'm going straight, it's at redline!

If I'm going straight, it is just to get to the next corner.

CaliGrrl · March 30th, 2016, 08:44 AM

Straights are easily had, but I seek out the corners. Luckily, I live in SoCal, where we have a lot of great canyons. Canyon-running actually was part of why I chose a little sportbike rather than something more cruiser-like. Not going for anything that's a real cruiser, I don't like having the pegs that far forward, but I did want something that could take canyons.

So count me in for corners and curves!

Ducati999 · March 30th, 2016, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadgerRy

If I'm going straight, it is just to get to the next corner.

THIS^ is how and why I ride. Straights are there just to connect/build speed for the turns!

allanoue · March 30th, 2016, 11:23 AM

I live for chicanes!

HoneyBadgerRy · March 30th, 2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

I live for chicanes!

Oh yes! Nothing like the feeling of switching from footpeg to footpeg.

Rifleman · March 30th, 2016, 12:55 PM

straight line is what you are forced to ride...

... to get to the sweet, voluptuous, yummy, sexah curves.

Tail of the Dragon 312 curves...

you ever hear anyone talk about "the Shaft of the Arrow" 312 miles of straight?

Flying · March 30th, 2016, 01:30 PM

I haven't had the opportunity to go very fast, but I will offer that I was grinding peg when taking the initial licensing class.

The S-box was a nightmare for me, just to complete the picture.

Snake · March 30th, 2016, 01:43 PM

Both because you have to use the straights to get to the curves.

RacinNinja · March 30th, 2016, 01:49 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words.

VaFish · March 30th, 2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rifleman

you ever hear anyone talk about "the Shaft of the Arrow" 312 miles of straight?

Yeah I used to ride it on my Blackbird when I lived in Australia. No speed limit in the NT when I was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Highway

Was driving south from Darwin one night, Had some real bright spot lights on my landcruiser, so did another landcruiser coming towards me, so we both dimmed our lights. Almost 10 minutes later we passed each other. I don't know how fast he was going, but I was doing 140 KPH.

HoneyBadgerRy · March 31st, 2016, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaFish

Yeah I used to ride it on my Blackbird when I lived in Australia. No speed limit in the NT when I was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Highway

Was driving south from Darwin one night, Had some real bright spot lights on my landcruiser, so did another landcruiser coming towards me, so we both dimmed our lights. Almost 10 minutes later we passed each other. I don't know how fast he was going, but I was doing 140 KPH.

That sure beats the 200 yards you get up here. If you turn off your brights any earlier, they are so brain dead they forget they have had their brights on.

Somchai · March 31st, 2016, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk

Car or Bike, straight line = straight line. In the corners only a bike can do what a bike can do. Whilst there is an art to faster cornering in a car, its all to do with touch & feel.
On a bike there is so much more used to corner & so much more feedback, plus it can be exhilerating at any speed, where as in a car a corner has to be taken on the limit to get your blood flowing.

For me fast corners are the place to be, but I like flip flop nagery chicanes too

Abbey Curve at Silverstone or the Craner Curves at Donington Park are amazing 100mph plus corners, with the bike on its ear, yeah baby

Hey Chris come on, you're from UK so you know what cornering in a car really means...

Enjoy a legendary run - THIS IS CORNERING IN A CAR AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL

Link to original page on YouTube.

NevadaWolf · March 31st, 2016, 09:55 AM

Is the statement true? Given how many fast bikes pull away from me in the straights then freaking park it in the corners, I'm going to say yes. Any fast bike can launch along a straight but a skilled rider can make any bike dance.

Which am I? Not a speed demon, I don't like going fast. Not a cornering king as I'm not the quickest through the curves and can easily get smoked by better riders. I'm a steady turtle, I pick a speed and stick with it in straights or curves. I find that more fun personally. I hate having to constantly brake and accelerate, that is exhausting. But smooth, steady, and consistent? Ohhh yeah!

CaliGrrl · March 31st, 2016, 10:05 AM

I think I tend to be stable in my speed, too, but I do like it in the curves. I'm still figuring out how I ride....

Abu_Mishary · March 31st, 2016, 06:01 PM

I have managed to get acquainted with some idiots who love to ride too fast in straights overtaking everyone but braked like hell (even accidentally performed a stoppie because of braking too hard!) when enter corners. That will be the first and last experience for me riding with them.

toEleven · April 2nd, 2016, 03:16 PM

If I could only choose one, it would be corners, but I don't think you can separate the two. What you do in one affects what you can/will/need to do in the other.

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Originally Posted by Rifleman

...
you ever hear anyone talk about "the Shaft of the Arrow"

Yes, but she was not the sort of girl I'd take home to meet the parents.

HoneyBadgerRy · April 2nd, 2016, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toEleven

If I could only choose one, it would be corners, but I don't think you can separate the two. What you do in one affects what you can/will/need to do in the other.
Yes, but she was not the sort of girl I'd take home to meet the parents.

I go fast out if a corner, slow down to the speed limit, and then speed back up to enter the corner.

snot · April 2nd, 2016, 03:26 PM

I love to ride.

I prefer a road track the most, then quite curves, and least is the flat highway... All are better than driving and a little peaceful.

March 29th, 2016, 08:11 PM	#1
Abu_Mishary The Asian Caucasian Name: Abu Mishary Mohd Fairus Location: Malaysia Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250 SE 2015 (sold); Honda ADV160 (current) Posts: 796 MOTM - Jan '17	Straight or Curves? Saw a poster the other day, which stated : "Straights are for fast bikes. Turns are for fast riders." Is this statement true? Which one are you? A speed demon or a cornering king? __________________________________________________ Losing someone is not painful. They are a part of us all this while and will always be with us. But missing them is.

March 29th, 2016, 08:32 PM	#2
HoneyBadgerRy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Beaufort SC Join Date: Aug 2015 Motorcycle(s): 05 Ninja 250, 04 KTM 625 SMC, 01 Xc250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	Corners. All the way. Is that even a question, who buys a ninja 250 to top it out in a straight line? I take that back, we all know exactly who does that. Sorry Eric __________________________________________________ Because Unregistered sucks at riding. Last futzed with by HoneyBadgerRy; April 2nd, 2016 at 03:29 PM.
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Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	why not both? if I could afford both I'd have both, but corners > straights __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

March 30th, 2016, 05:27 AM	#7
Mohawk ninjette.org guru Name: Chris Location: Bristol, UK Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): ZZR250, VFR800 Posts: 478	Car or Bike, straight line = straight line. In the corners only a bike can do what a bike can do. Whilst there is an art to faster cornering in a car, its all to do with touch & feel. On a bike there is so much more used to corner & so much more feedback, plus it can be exhilerating at any speed, where as in a car a corner has to be taken on the limit to get your blood flowing. For me fast corners are the place to be, but I like flip flop nagery chicanes too Abbey Curve at Silverstone or the Craner Curves at Donington Park are amazing 100mph plus corners, with the bike on its ear, yeah baby Last futzed with by Mohawk; March 30th, 2016 at 02:19 PM.
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March 30th, 2016, 11:23 AM	#12
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	I live for chicanes! __________________________________________________ Keep calm and ride on -Motofool Never quit on a rainy day -ally99
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March 30th, 2016, 08:44 AM	#10
CaliGrrl ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kerry Location: Ventura, CA Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '18, Apr '17, Apr '16	Straights are easily had, but I seek out the corners. Luckily, I live in SoCal, where we have a lot of great canyons. Canyon-running actually was part of why I chose a little sportbike rather than something more cruiser-like. Not going for anything that's a real cruiser, I don't like having the pegs that far forward, but I did want something that could take canyons. So count me in for corners and curves!

March 30th, 2016, 12:55 PM	#14
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	straight line is what you are forced to ride... ... to get to the sweet, voluptuous, yummy, sexah curves. Tail of the Dragon 312 curves... you ever hear anyone talk about "the Shaft of the Arrow" 312 miles of straight? __________________________________________________
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March 30th, 2016, 01:30 PM	#15
Flying ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: somewhere cold Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 596 Blog Entries: 1	I haven't had the opportunity to go very fast, but I will offer that I was grinding peg when taking the initial licensing class. The S-box was a nightmare for me, just to complete the picture.

March 30th, 2016, 01:43 PM	#16
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Both because you have to use the straights to get to the curves.

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RacinNinja Vintage Screwball Name: B Location: Washington Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250, 2008 Ninja 250, 2019 KTM 1290SDR, 2017 FZ10 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '16	A picture is worth a thousand words. __________________________________________________ Goin' fast on slow bikes!

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NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Is the statement true? Given how many fast bikes pull away from me in the straights then freaking park it in the corners, I'm going to say yes. Any fast bike can launch along a straight but a skilled rider can make any bike dance. Which am I? Not a speed demon, I don't like going fast. Not a cornering king as I'm not the quickest through the curves and can easily get smoked by better riders. I'm a steady turtle, I pick a speed and stick with it in straights or curves. I find that more fun personally. I hate having to constantly brake and accelerate, that is exhausting. But smooth, steady, and consistent? Ohhh yeah! __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

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CaliGrrl ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kerry Location: Ventura, CA Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '18, Apr '17, Apr '16	I think I tend to be stable in my speed, too, but I do like it in the curves. I'm still figuring out how I ride....

March 31st, 2016, 06:01 PM	#23
Abu_Mishary The Asian Caucasian Name: Abu Mishary Mohd Fairus Location: Malaysia Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250 SE 2015 (sold); Honda ADV160 (current) Posts: 796 MOTM - Jan '17	I have managed to get acquainted with some idiots who love to ride too fast in straights overtaking everyone but braked like hell (even accidentally performed a stoppie because of braking too hard!) when enter corners. That will be the first and last experience for me riding with them. __________________________________________________ Losing someone is not painful. They are a part of us all this while and will always be with us. But missing them is.

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snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	I love to ride. I prefer a road track the most, then quite curves, and least is the flat highway... All are better than driving and a little peaceful. __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

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