Ownership Question

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 02:41 PM

So i received a letter from the DMV stating my bike (Previous one) didnt have insurance on it. Heres the catch, i sold it off along with the title to it a couple months back. How can i go about resolving this issue? its clear that whoever i sold it to didnt turn in the title to the DMV as its still under my name. Is there a way for me to remove my name off that bikes registration?

PS. the letter is basically saying the DMV is going to suspend my vehicle registration and i have to pay a 14 dollar fee for a vehicle that i dont even have anymore. I also dont have new owners info i just have his phone number with txt proving of day and location of sale

HKr1 · November 3rd, 2013, 04:29 PM

I always fill out the paper work for dmv. Just in case they don't register things, I don't want my name on it anymore.

Was a long time ago, but I thought Cali had these type forms too

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 06:42 PM

For those in california that would b attached with the title or "pink slip", which me being a dummy gave it all to the buyer. Any other ways to go about getting my name off that bike? I have proof via text of sell confirmation along with the date and time plus location

csmith12 · November 3rd, 2013, 07:59 PM

Well, I don't know much about Cali, but I would have to ask why the DMV cares if I have insurance on it in the first place unless I am trying to renew the tags/plate. Instead of assuming I am guilty of something, assume it's NOT on the road. @#%!#$!@#$!@#% when is "NOT acceptable" gunna be the norm? /sigh...

Alex · November 3rd, 2013, 08:17 PM

You need to fill out a release of liability form whenever you sell a vehicle in California. You can do it online:

http://dmv.ca.gov/online/nrl/welcome.htm

That's the proof that you've sold the bike, so if the next owner flakes and doesn't register it or the paperwork gets held up for whatever reason, you have the proof you need to show when it was sold. Best practice is to submit it electronically, then print out a copy (or keep a pdf) in case something weird pops up later, like what is happening to you now.

Alex · November 3rd, 2013, 08:17 PM

/moved to general

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 08:37 PM

thank you guys very much for the help. i'll hop on top of the electronic submission right now and see what happens from there

Alex · November 3rd, 2013, 08:38 PM

The DMV site is reasonably comprehensive on what you need to do when either buying or selling:

http://dmv.ca.gov/faq/faqbuysell.htm

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 08:48 PM

I am stupid because during the time of sale i filled out and signed my part on the title. But instead of keeping the top half i just gave the buyer the entire thing thinking the buyer will turn it into the dmv and save me the trouble. First time ever selling a vehicle and the previous owner that i bought it off of gave me the entire title and i turned it all in.

Live and learn, i will definitely not be doing this again.

Byakkotai · November 3rd, 2013, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

You need to fill out a release of liability form whenever you sell a vehicle in California. You can do it online:

http://dmv.ca.gov/online/nrl/welcome.htm

That's the proof that you've sold the bike, so if the next owner flakes and doesn't register it or the paperwork gets held up for whatever reason, you have the proof you need to show when it was sold. Best practice is to submit it electronically, then print out a copy (or keep a pdf) in case something weird pops up later, like what is happening to you now.

/thread

Not having this greatly complicates a sale done in good faith.

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 09:07 PM

okay so i tried the online form. I dont have the info for the new owner. I dont have odo reading. But i have vin and license plate number of vehicle. What can i do now?

NevadaWolf · November 3rd, 2013, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Well, I don't know much about Cali, but I would have to ask why the DMV cares if I have insurance on it in the first place unless I am trying to renew the tags/plate. Instead of assuming I am guilty of something, assume it's NOT on the road. @#%!#$!@#$!@#% when is "NOT acceptable" gunna be the norm? /sigh...

Minor thread jack,

NV is this way too, DMV doesn't care until the vehicle is registered. Having it registered means it is mandatory to have insurance. If a new registration doesn't have record of a corresponding insurance or the insurance company notifies the DMV that the policy has been canceled and the registration remains active, a handy dandy little post card is sent to the name on the registration with a rather grumpy request for $250.

Now back to the regularly scheduled thread....

Alex · November 3rd, 2013, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomPhantom

okay so i tried the online form. I dont have the info for the new owner. I dont have odo reading. But i have vin and license plate number of vehicle. What can i do now?

You need to get the information for the new owner, and get the mileage when you sold it. You can probably guesstimate the mileage if push comes to shove, but the new owner info is required. Of course the form will accept it if you plug in Mickey Mouse, 1 Disney Lane; but there is the caveat that once you hit send there is a threat of forging a government document.

antiant · November 3rd, 2013, 10:19 PM

I may be mistaken, but I believe you have to fill out that release of liability paper within 5 days too, after sell.

RandomPhantom · November 3rd, 2013, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antiant

I may be mistaken, but I believe you have to fill out that release of liability paper within 5 days too, after sell.

u r correct within the week i believe. I filled everything out the day of the sale. But my mistake was not taking my portion of the title and turning my part in. Instead i let the buyer have the entire title including my portion. He never turned it in and it has been at least 4 months

RandomPhantom · November 4th, 2013, 02:04 AM

UGHHH, as expected the buyer didnt respond to my txt. imma need to go to the DMV myself and get this sorted out. Anyone know if they can just simply take that vehicle that is registered under my name and just, u know, remove it?

Alex · November 4th, 2013, 11:32 AM

Unlikely. You need to get the buyers info.

RandomPhantom · November 4th, 2013, 01:49 PM

damit, well i went to the dmv. the lady there that helped me from the front desk notified me that i need to fill out liability form. If i didnt now the buyer's info just put unknown. Hoping this all works

Alex · November 4th, 2013, 02:07 PM

Good luck; keep us posted.

RandomPhantom · November 4th, 2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Good luck; keep us posted.

will do alex thank you very much for everyone that posted here for their help on this subject. Much love yall

November 3rd, 2013, 02:41 PM	#1
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	Ownership Question So i received a letter from the DMV stating my bike (Previous one) didnt have insurance on it. Heres the catch, i sold it off along with the title to it a couple months back. How can i go about resolving this issue? its clear that whoever i sold it to didnt turn in the title to the DMV as its still under my name. Is there a way for me to remove my name off that bikes registration? PS. the letter is basically saying the DMV is going to suspend my vehicle registration and i have to pay a 14 dollar fee for a vehicle that i dont even have anymore. I also dont have new owners info i just have his phone number with txt proving of day and location of sale Last futzed with by RandomPhantom; November 3rd, 2013 at 08:43 PM.

November 3rd, 2013, 07:59 PM	#4
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Well, I don't know much about Cali, but I would have to ask why the DMV cares if I have insurance on it in the first place unless I am trying to renew the tags/plate. Instead of assuming I am guilty of something, assume it's NOT on the road. @#%!#$!@#$!@#% when is "NOT acceptable" gunna be the norm? /sigh... __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

November 3rd, 2013, 08:17 PM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	You need to fill out a release of liability form whenever you sell a vehicle in California. You can do it online: http://dmv.ca.gov/online/nrl/welcome.htm That's the proof that you've sold the bike, so if the next owner flakes and doesn't register it or the paperwork gets held up for whatever reason, you have the proof you need to show when it was sold. Best practice is to submit it electronically, then print out a copy (or keep a pdf) in case something weird pops up later, like what is happening to you now. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 3rd, 2013, 08:17 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	/moved to general __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 3rd, 2013, 08:38 PM	#8
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The DMV site is reasonably comprehensive on what you need to do when either buying or selling: http://dmv.ca.gov/faq/faqbuysell.htm __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 3rd, 2013, 06:42 PM	#3
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	For those in california that would b attached with the title or "pink slip", which me being a dummy gave it all to the buyer. Any other ways to go about getting my name off that bike? I have proof via text of sell confirmation along with the date and time plus location

November 3rd, 2013, 08:37 PM	#7
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	thank you guys very much for the help. i'll hop on top of the electronic submission right now and see what happens from there

November 3rd, 2013, 08:48 PM	#9
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	I am stupid because during the time of sale i filled out and signed my part on the title. But instead of keeping the top half i just gave the buyer the entire thing thinking the buyer will turn it into the dmv and save me the trouble. First time ever selling a vehicle and the previous owner that i bought it off of gave me the entire title and i turned it all in. Live and learn, i will definitely not be doing this again.

November 3rd, 2013, 09:07 PM	#11
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	okay so i tried the online form. I dont have the info for the new owner. I dont have odo reading. But i have vin and license plate number of vehicle. What can i do now?

November 3rd, 2013, 10:19 PM	#14
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	I may be mistaken, but I believe you have to fill out that release of liability paper within 5 days too, after sell.

November 4th, 2013, 02:04 AM	#16
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	UGHHH, as expected the buyer didnt respond to my txt. imma need to go to the DMV myself and get this sorted out. Anyone know if they can just simply take that vehicle that is registered under my name and just, u know, remove it?

November 4th, 2013, 11:32 AM	#17
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Unlikely. You need to get the buyers info. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 4th, 2013, 01:49 PM	#18
RandomPhantom The Motorcycle Newb! Name: Tony Location: Orange County Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (Red/SOLD), 2008 Ninja 250R (Black/SOLD), 2005 ZX6R (Black) Posts: 193	damit, well i went to the dmv. the lady there that helped me from the front desk notified me that i need to fill out liability form. If i didnt now the buyer's info just put unknown. Hoping this all works

November 4th, 2013, 02:07 PM	#19
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Good luck; keep us posted. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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