Almost wreck

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 01:21 PM

Link to original page on YouTube.

Was that a R6?

csmith12 · October 19th, 2011, 01:56 PM

yea, an R6

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 01:57 PM

Pretty cool save

alex.s · October 19th, 2011, 01:59 PM

i wouldnt call that a good save so much as a guy lucky he didnt highside himself... he chopped the throttle when his rear stepped out...

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i wouldnt call that a good save so much as a guy lucky he didnt highside himself... he chopped the throttle when his rear stepped out...

So he had nothing to do with it? Just got lucky?

csmith12 · October 19th, 2011, 02:07 PM

he is all bound up too which didn't help

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM

I noticed his bad body position as well.

alex.s · October 19th, 2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

So he had nothing to do with it? Just got lucky?

im saying he caused it, and his actions after causing it did nothing to help his situation.

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 02:12 PM

Everyone crashes on that turn because they're showing off.

For example...

Link to original page on YouTube.

Another...

Link to original page on YouTube.

Malicious Logic · October 19th, 2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Everyone crashes on that turn because they're showing off.

I've noticed this as well....

csmith12 · October 19th, 2011, 02:25 PM

yea, human factors like showing off play a role.

He caused it by chopping the throttle mid corner and then getting back on it, which caused the slide. He was doing fine, should have just held his line, but something must have spooked him.

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Probably got distracted by the cameramen, not spooked.

alex.s · October 19th, 2011, 03:01 PM

it looks like he probably got in deeper than he's used to because he was distracted by the camera man... that spooked him and he started to roll off which slid his rear out because it pushed his weight to the front... then when he felt the rear slide out he really chopped it and it caught and almost highsided him... maybe

WhiteRice · October 19th, 2011, 03:04 PM

If you watch the slo mo you can see his rear lose traction as he rides over a large dark portion of road.

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 03:10 PM

Roads actually fine. It's near perfect. It's been studied because so many people crash on it. I think the black spot is just a coincidence.

sombo · October 19th, 2011, 07:49 PM

He even responded in that youtube thread. He claims and it does appear that it was the change in pavement that caused a change in traction. He did admit to bad body positioning that had he been better positioned he might have not lost grip on that change of pavement. Yes, even a patch like that can have a much different traction than the surrounding pavement and it can cause things like this.

nickjpass · October 19th, 2011, 08:09 PM

Maybe the study was done before the change in pavement was made? Anyway, his name is Nick as well!!!

Did you know my full name is only Nick, and not Nicholas

dubojr1 · October 20th, 2011, 05:31 AM

Where is this "Study" and what qualified person/company did it?

Jinx250 · October 20th, 2011, 07:23 AM

If you listen to tthe sound, he didn't chop the throttle until after the rear stepped out. Before that he was pretty steady.

And as far as all the crashes there being caused by showing off, I can't speak to that. But I've watched a ton of videos of crashes there, and while there are certainly people causing there own crash, this guy is not one, and there are plenty where there is no discernable cause. I've ridden through there plenty of times during non-traffic hours and gotten through that turn just fine in both directions. And I can attest to the fact that the pavement there is FAR from perfect.

Alex · October 20th, 2011, 10:13 AM

That isn't a particularly great part of that road, and that corner is dicey. The surface is not inherently great, and it often has a good bit of dust/debris/dirt mixed in as well. What is unique about that particular corner is it has such a good sightline for cameras, that's about it.

October 19th, 2011, 01:21 PM	#1
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Almost wreck Link to original page on YouTube. Was that a R6? __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 01:56 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	yea, an R6 __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 19th, 2011, 01:57 PM	#3
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Pretty cool save __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 01:59 PM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i wouldnt call that a good save so much as a guy lucky he didnt highside himself... he chopped the throttle when his rear stepped out... __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 02:07 PM	#6
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	he is all bound up too which didn't help __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM	#7
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I noticed his bad body position as well. __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 02:12 PM	#9
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Everyone crashes on that turn because they're showing off. For example... Link to original page on YouTube. Another... Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 02:25 PM	#11
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	yea, human factors like showing off play a role. He caused it by chopping the throttle mid corner and then getting back on it, which caused the slide. He was doing fine, should have just held his line, but something must have spooked him. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 19th, 2011, 02:58 PM	#12
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Probably got distracted by the cameramen, not spooked. __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 03:01 PM	#13
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	it looks like he probably got in deeper than he's used to because he was distracted by the camera man... that spooked him and he started to roll off which slid his rear out because it pushed his weight to the front... then when he felt the rear slide out he really chopped it and it caught and almost highsided him... maybe __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 03:04 PM	#14
WhiteRice Kamikaze Squirrel Name: Zach Location: NJ Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250r Posts: 300	If you watch the slo mo you can see his rear lose traction as he rides over a large dark portion of road.

October 19th, 2011, 03:10 PM	#15
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Roads actually fine. It's near perfect. It's been studied because so many people crash on it. I think the black spot is just a coincidence. __________________________________________________

October 19th, 2011, 07:49 PM	#16
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	He even responded in that youtube thread. He claims and it does appear that it was the change in pavement that caused a change in traction. He did admit to bad body positioning that had he been better positioned he might have not lost grip on that change of pavement. Yes, even a patch like that can have a much different traction than the surrounding pavement and it can cause things like this.

October 19th, 2011, 08:09 PM	#17
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Maybe the study was done before the change in pavement was made? Anyway, his name is Nick as well!!! Did you know my full name is only Nick, and not Nicholas __________________________________________________

October 20th, 2011, 05:31 AM	#18
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Where is this "Study" and what qualified person/company did it? __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

October 20th, 2011, 07:23 AM	#19
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	If you listen to tthe sound, he didn't chop the throttle until after the rear stepped out. Before that he was pretty steady. And as far as all the crashes there being caused by showing off, I can't speak to that. But I've watched a ton of videos of crashes there, and while there are certainly people causing there own crash, this guy is not one, and there are plenty where there is no discernable cause. I've ridden through there plenty of times during non-traffic hours and gotten through that turn just fine in both directions. And I can attest to the fact that the pavement there is FAR from perfect.

October 20th, 2011, 10:13 AM	#20
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