Another First: MC failed inspection

Sailariel · July 14th, 2010, 10:07 AM

I went to our local MC Shop (not a dealership) for the annual inspection. The bike was fine---what failed were the tyres. He thought that I got good service out of the OEM Dunlop 501s---11,000 miles. Since the bike is mostly used as a Sport Touring Bike, I ordered a new set of 501s. They were less expensive than Pirelli, BT-45. I looked at Metzler and got sticker shock.

bob706 · July 14th, 2010, 10:31 AM

My stock 501's have lasted me 12k mile thus far. Did yours fail due to the tread or did the guy not like how un-round they became?

Reswob · July 14th, 2010, 10:32 AM

I'm afraid when I take mine in for inspection this month I'll be needing new tires too. With 10,000 miles out of the Dunlops (and $150 for front and rear delivered), you bet your ass that's what I'll tell the dealer to put on!

Sailariel · July 14th, 2010, 06:54 PM

Sean, The front tyre was quite "cupped" and the rear tyre was at the wear mark. What I thought was interesting was that the owner of the shop/well respected mechanic, felt that my pressures of 28/32 were too low for the kind of riding I did (Touring--going 500mi in a day) He suggested 36/38 as an all around pressure to be reduced to 32/34 in wet conditions. I tend to follow his advice because he has a long history of road racing, and owns several Ducati Motorcycles--one being a red XEROX Ducati with more Carbon Fibre than anything I have ever seen. That machine could strike terror into the best of us. His personal ride is a Honda Literbike--a couple years old, barely street legal, in pristine condition. His other personal bike, which he just sold, was a ZX10R (Green) I tried it out, and it was just too much bike for me. When I get the new 501s this Friday, I will run the 36/38 pressure and get back to the forum with a situation report (SITREP).

Apex · July 14th, 2010, 07:16 PM

Dunlops are fine over normal riding situations. If you really want to lean the bike, Dunlop has to be one of the worst tires to use (at least that was the case for my 07). They had a horrible feel. That is why I went with the PSD's.

Alex · July 14th, 2010, 09:00 PM

Mark - two different dunlops. The K691's on the pregens are just about the worst tires I've ever experienced. The GT501's that came on some 2008's are great all around tires. Night and day.

izmail1215 · July 14th, 2010, 09:48 PM

still running stock =(

Sailariel · July 15th, 2010, 11:35 AM

Alex, I see that you have a ZX10R. Switching back and forth between the 10R and the Ninjette has to be quite an experience. The acelleration of the 10R reminded me of the Vincent I owned for a very short time when I was 18 ---sold for self preservation. The 10R has to be the most fantastic handling bike I have ever ridden. The engine is as smooth as silk and the brakes are incredible. The acelleration would take a while to get used to. It gives a new meaning to fast.

revstriker · July 15th, 2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailariel

What I thought was interesting was that the owner of the shop/well respected mechanic, felt that my pressures of 28/32 were too low for the kind of riding I did (Touring--going 500mi in a day) He suggested 36/38 as an all around pressure to be reduced to 32/34 in wet conditions.

Just a thought, but knowing how "slippery" new tires can be, you should probably be extra careful since you are also riding new tires at a higher pressure than you might be used to.

Sailariel · July 16th, 2010, 05:59 PM

Scott, Thanks for the Heads Up. My mechanic said the same thing---advised riding with great caution to "Scrub In" the tyres. He suggested 150mi.

ninjabrewer · July 17th, 2010, 01:38 PM

I just replace the factory rear tire last week. I had over 16K on it, front still has a few thousand left in it.

nb

Sailariel · July 17th, 2010, 02:44 PM

Chris, My 501 Dunlops should be in on Monday. It is nice to have MC mechanic interested in bicycles. He works on my MC and I work on his bike. It ocurred to me the other day that very few people work on their own bikes--then I looked at the wall over my tool bench and see all these blue handled tools (Park). Duh? These are all bicycle specific tools and they are expensive as hell. Of course a person interested in working on his/her bike, could get the specific tools for the bike they own and that would be less expensive. As a shop, I don't get away that easy.

CZroe · July 28th, 2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Reswob

I'm afraid when I take mine in for inspection this month I'll be needing new tires too. With 10,000 miles out of the Dunlops (and $150 for front and rear delivered), you bet your ass that's what I'll tell the dealer to put on!

Where did you order them for that price?

Sailariel · July 28th, 2010, 05:33 AM

JET, The shop ordered them from Parts Unlimited.

fenwaynomar45 · July 28th, 2010, 07:05 AM

lol this makes me feel dumb... but how often do we need to bring the bike for inspection? this is my first bike and didn't even know we needed to do that.

dubojr1 · July 28th, 2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fenwaynomar45

lol this makes me feel dumb... but how often do we need to bring the bike for inspection? this is my first bike and didn't even know we needed to do that.

It is required by certain States. I know North Carolina is or at least was an inspection state when I lived there. Florida, where I am now, it is NOT required.

fenwaynomar45 · July 28th, 2010, 07:27 AM

O ok now I don't feel as dumb. Thanks!

Reswob · July 28th, 2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

Where did you order them for that price?

Haven't ordered them yet, but the price is from here

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/ti...fCatId=&mmyId=

I passed the inspection this morning so I didn't bother to ask, but my dealer can probably get them a little cheaper.

July 14th, 2010, 10:07 AM	#1
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Another First: MC failed inspection I went to our local MC Shop (not a dealership) for the annual inspection. The bike was fine---what failed were the tyres. He thought that I got good service out of the OEM Dunlop 501s---11,000 miles. Since the bike is mostly used as a Sport Touring Bike, I ordered a new set of 501s. They were less expensive than Pirelli, BT-45. I looked at Metzler and got sticker shock.

July 14th, 2010, 10:32 AM	#3
Reswob ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Richmond VA Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Triumph Bonneville Black Posts: 627	I'm afraid when I take mine in for inspection this month I'll be needing new tires too. With 10,000 miles out of the Dunlops (and $150 for front and rear delivered), you bet your ass that's what I'll tell the dealer to put on! __________________________________________________ '08 Bonneville Black sold->'08 Ninja 250R \| OES Swingarm Spools \| EBC HH brake pads \| reflector delete \| no-cut brake light modulator \| DIY fender eliminator

July 14th, 2010, 07:16 PM	#5
Apex Livin' the Minimoto Life Name: Mark Location: Riding around in TX Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.	Dunlops are fine over normal riding situations. If you really want to lean the bike, Dunlop has to be one of the worst tires to use (at least that was the case for my 07). They had a horrible feel. That is why I went with the PSD's. __________________________________________________ --- My IG Page --- My FB page! --- 2022 Honda Navi && 2018 Z-125 Pro

July 14th, 2010, 09:00 PM	#6
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July 17th, 2010, 01:38 PM	#11
ninjabrewer dirty old man Name: Chris Location: Hazel Green, AL Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	I just replace the factory rear tire last week. I had over 16K on it, front still has a few thousand left in it. nb __________________________________________________ Death tugs at my ear and says, "Live, I am coming." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) www.friendsofsanonofre.org

July 14th, 2010, 10:31 AM	#2
bob706 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Mary Esther, FL Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.	My stock 501's have lasted me 12k mile thus far. Did yours fail due to the tread or did the guy not like how un-round they became?

July 14th, 2010, 06:54 PM	#4
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Sean, The front tyre was quite "cupped" and the rear tyre was at the wear mark. What I thought was interesting was that the owner of the shop/well respected mechanic, felt that my pressures of 28/32 were too low for the kind of riding I did (Touring--going 500mi in a day) He suggested 36/38 as an all around pressure to be reduced to 32/34 in wet conditions. I tend to follow his advice because he has a long history of road racing, and owns several Ducati Motorcycles--one being a red XEROX Ducati with more Carbon Fibre than anything I have ever seen. That machine could strike terror into the best of us. His personal ride is a Honda Literbike--a couple years old, barely street legal, in pristine condition. His other personal bike, which he just sold, was a ZX10R (Green) I tried it out, and it was just too much bike for me. When I get the new 501s this Friday, I will run the 36/38 pressure and get back to the forum with a situation report (SITREP).

July 14th, 2010, 09:48 PM	#7
izmail1215 ninjette.org member Name: SaM Location: Houston Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ninja 250r, 2009 650r Posts: 150	still running stock =(

July 15th, 2010, 11:35 AM	#8
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Alex, I see that you have a ZX10R. Switching back and forth between the 10R and the Ninjette has to be quite an experience. The acelleration of the 10R reminded me of the Vincent I owned for a very short time when I was 18 ---sold for self preservation. The 10R has to be the most fantastic handling bike I have ever ridden. The engine is as smooth as silk and the brakes are incredible. The acelleration would take a while to get used to. It gives a new meaning to fast.

July 16th, 2010, 05:59 PM	#10
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Scott, Thanks for the Heads Up. My mechanic said the same thing---advised riding with great caution to "Scrub In" the tyres. He suggested 150mi.

July 17th, 2010, 02:44 PM	#12
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Chris, My 501 Dunlops should be in on Monday. It is nice to have MC mechanic interested in bicycles. He works on my MC and I work on his bike. It ocurred to me the other day that very few people work on their own bikes--then I looked at the wall over my tool bench and see all these blue handled tools (Park). Duh? These are all bicycle specific tools and they are expensive as hell. Of course a person interested in working on his/her bike, could get the specific tools for the bike they own and that would be less expensive. As a shop, I don't get away that easy.

July 28th, 2010, 05:33 AM	#14
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	JET, The shop ordered them from Parts Unlimited.

July 28th, 2010, 07:05 AM	#15
fenwaynomar45 Greenman! Name: Jack Location: South NJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 109	lol this makes me feel dumb... but how often do we need to bring the bike for inspection? this is my first bike and didn't even know we needed to do that.

July 28th, 2010, 07:27 AM	#17
fenwaynomar45 Greenman! Name: Jack Location: South NJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 109	O ok now I don't feel as dumb. Thanks!

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