September 30th, 2010, 11:02 AM | #1 |
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You Damn Dirty Motorcyclist!
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http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/2.../feature65.htm You Damn Dirty Motorcyclist! Part One: Pledge and WD40 by Stephen Pate Issue #65--April 2004 Last year I was lucky enough to produce a documentary film. I met and interviewed thousands of motorcyclists who don't ride American made motorcycles. These folks, just like all motorcyclists, tend to be an extremely polarized and opinionated bunch. In talking off camera with these people, I noticed an unusual and somewhat disturbing pattern of behavior. For some odd reason, one constant subject I heard people brag about is how they "never clean their bikes"… and saying it proudly as if it was some sort of motorcycling badge of honor! The first hundred or so times I heard this comment, it didn't really effect me. Sometime during the next several hundred times, it got me thinking. I'm not exactly sure how the simple act of cleaning one's motorcycle has become a "statement", but it has. Even 'rat bikes' can be clean, so it became quite clear that these people felt the need to tell me this information so they could somehow differentiate themselves as "REAL" motorcyclists. Apparently, real motorcyclists don't clean and/or polish their bikes. Man…if only I had known this sooner. I can't imagine all the time and trouble this would have saved me! You see, unless I had just come through some really bad weather or taken some off-road route, my bikes always looked well cared for and clean, because they were. In noticing this, some people would give me a judging look and then invariably feel the need to make some sideways comment about how "clean" my bike was, immediately following up with a line like, "I'd rather RIDE 'em than WASH 'em" "If you WASH 'em, they have more PROBLEMS" "If I want a CLEAN bike, I'll just buy a NEW one" "I always ride in the RAIN… IT does the job" "The only time you should get WATER on your bike is in the RAIN" "If I wanted to POLISH my bike, I ride a damn Harley" There were literally a hundred other comments that tried to justify what was essentially the neglect of their machines. Sometimes people said, "You must ride a 'Hardly Ableson too", or just, "You outta' be a Harley rider". I never heard this come from the mouth of someone on a Harley, so I came to the conclusion that it was not meant as a compliment. Apparently, there is a large and growing contingent of riders that have the misperception that a clean bike is a bike that isn't ridden much. That might be true in some cases, but if these people had seen my odometer they probably wouldn't have made their snide remarks. During a 9-month period in 2003, I rode over 65,000 miles to my filming locations without one single breakdown or running issue of any kind. I owe it all to Lemon Pledge, but more on that in a minute. Bragging about not cleaning your machine is kind of like a mountain climber bragging about never checking their ropes. Don't get me wrong… I am not advocating spending time cleaning your bike rather than riding it. However, my fundamental thoughts on the matter are that a clean bike is a safe bike. Identifying problems before they occur is always a good idea. Cleaning your bike should be part of your routine maintenance. Just about every professional in motor sports will agree with this. I grew up during my teenage years living next to several professional drivers. The first thing every one of those guys taught me is that keeping your gear immaculate equates to exponentially increased safety. As much of a perfectionist as I might be, they all put me to shame. Before they had support crews and state of the art machines, they constantly had their hands on most every part on their cycles. They showed me that the routine of cleaning keeps your eyes on the little things that can make the difference between winning and losing, or even life and death. Those loose fasteners, cracked welds, corroded electrical connections and frayed wires… they are the only things between you and a failure that could potentially result in injury or death. You would not normally see some of them unless you were really going over your machine, cleaning it well enough to really examine the finer details. Almost every time I go over my bike to clean it I find something small but important that requires fixing or adjusting that I would not have found otherwise. So, at the risk of being made fun of with the nickname "Lemon Pledge", here are a few simple and maybe unexpected things everyone can use to start keeping a closer eye on their motorcycles. Pledge Enough cannot be said about the benefits of this product for a motorcycle. It's sort of like WD40 in that regard. However, the lemon variety is the only one worth using for this purpose. The lemon product seems to have a better nondestructive degreasing agent that we all need for bikes. A few years ago, I worked as the "motorcycle specialist" for a motorcycle and bicycle auction. Noted collectors and restorers repeatedly mentioned that it is the only thing they used for cleaning because it did not harm any vintage paint, metals, leather, rubber or plastics. Several motorcycle tour operators also strongly recommend that all their customers pack a small can of it just to keep their helmets, visors and leathers clean. Still, people have almost fallen down laughing when they see me spraying my bike and helmet down with Pledge after a couple days ride though the billions of mosquitoes and other winged nasties we have here in Minnesota. It helps dissolve acidic bug guts, road tar and unidentified gunk and grime very quickly. It is also an excellent lubricating layer to avoid dirt and other particles from scratching surfaces as you wipe them. One benefit of using it (especially on your windshield and your helmet visor) is that it cleans effectively and leaves a fine film that aids in future cleaning without the need to reapply the product. The next couple of times you wipe down your visor and such, you can use a soft rag and surfaces will quickly wipe clean and clear again. It will help in the rain, as it beads water somewhat. I use it over my normal auto cleaner wax product and it does a top rate job. It can even be used on chrome, if you have any. Carry a little can of it in your luggage somewhere or under your seat. They sell it in smaller cans that will clean your entire bike and gear a couple of times over when you are on the road. It's just about the fastest way to do a wipe-down of all your bike's surfaces. It does a killer job on bodywork, wheels, seat, windshield and visor…even your leathers! AND using it regularly sure will make you stink pretty! One added tip is to get some heavy weight terry cloth gloves and carry one at a time. These are available from many places, including auto detailing supply businesses. They will turn a 30 minute cleaning job into a 5 minute cleaning job, as you can simply run your hands across big surfaces and run your fingers into all the harder to reach places, around fork tubes, pipes, etc. You can use one glove on either hand so when one side is dirty, just flip it over to the other. WD40 It's the Duct Tape of cleaner / lubricants. Amen!You probably already know this miracle of miracles disperses water. It also can help remove paint, tar, bugs, and a myriad of other crap without any adverse affects. WD-40 can be used on exposed radiator hoses to keep them pliable and on painted engines and drive trains to keep them looking newer. It also works great when restoring black colored or painted parts. It's great for cleaning colored dash and handlebar switches. IF you wax your bike, it's of great assistance in removing wax from crevices in bodywork and components. It is one of the best wheel cleaners regardless of what type of wheels you have. Using this routinely can really cut down on the amount of hard cleaning you need do and it's great preventative maintenance for several things. I know many people who spray their bikes down with it after riding in the rain and swear by its regular use. Someone could say they're nuts for using it so much, but not me… I smell too much like Pledge to be judgmental. No matter how, when, why or what you ride, I imagine every active motorcyclist would agree on taking care of equipment so that it takes care of you. Even if you are the kind of rider who does not service their own bike, don't assume your dealer / mechanic does this sort of thing when they do it. It's up to you and only you to keep an eye on the details. Just routinely wiping everything down with products like the ones above will become a slippery slope… no pun intended. Getting in this habit will most likely motivate you to do more thorough cleanings and equipment checks that will make your rides even safer and more enjoyable. Heck, pretty soon you might even be riding a Harl... no wait, never mind! So, now, quit reading about riding and go RIDE. Spring is here! Sell your car! Ride everywhere… ride in all kinds of weather… ride so much it hurts, but most importantly, get those bikes of yours completely filthy. Because, in part two I'll go much more in depth and offer up some tips for enhancing safety through routine cleaning. In the meantime, I'll be out riding… sniffing the air… searching for others with a lemon fresh scent. M.M.M. * This article originally appeared in the April 2004 issue of Minnesota Motorcycle Monthly. |
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September 30th, 2010, 11:13 AM | #2 |
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Great find... I still find it hard to use furniture polish on my bikes. Anyone here using it? Pro and cons?
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September 30th, 2010, 11:41 AM | #3 |
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I just did my entire bike with it. Boy does it SHINE!
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September 30th, 2010, 11:54 AM | #4 |
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good info..thanks for sharing!
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September 30th, 2010, 12:44 PM | #5 |
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Works for display purposes. The deflective, shiny film it leaves looks nice, but it doesn't stick around with normal use. I use general-purpose unscented baby wipes myself. No strong solvents, no dyes, and they can used on seats without fear of slipperiness.
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September 30th, 2010, 08:29 PM | #6 |
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Lemon Pledge works great on the outside of your visor to shed rain. And I like the lemony smell.
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September 30th, 2010, 08:34 PM | #7 |
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October 1st, 2010, 09:03 AM | #8 |
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Great info, thanks for sharing.
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October 1st, 2010, 09:40 AM | #9 |
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I wash the bike when the bugs cause drag.
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October 1st, 2010, 10:11 AM | #10 |
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Brilliant! I have my semi-annual deep clean on the bike scheduled for this weekend, gonna try this new lemon pledge stuff....
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October 1st, 2010, 01:20 PM | #11 |
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I have a 1998 Moto Guzzi pushing 120,000 miles. With just a few exceptions it looks like new. In 12 years I've probably washed it about 5 times. But I keep it clean by wipeing it down with WD40 and using Nu Finish wax/polish. It too works like a solvent but polishes nicely with a protective coating. Good article and I'll check out Lemon Pledge.
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October 1st, 2010, 02:10 PM | #12 |
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lemon pledge FTW
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October 1st, 2010, 02:14 PM | #13 |
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I would be careful with Pledge on seats, handles, and footpegs. It can be slippery.
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I use Pledge on my bicycles along with WD-40 as a chain cleaner. I use WD-40 to clean the MC chain, and then lube with a good chain lube. On my windshield and visor, I like Plexus (available in MC Shops--expensive, but good) On the seat, I use the leather dressing Corbin recommends. Washing the bike takes no time at all. I use a Terry glove and plenty of car wash in hot water, rinse with a garden hose, and dry with an electric leaf blower. I like my bike to always look showroom clean. Like my bicycles, it gets wiped down after every ride. I have found that NU-Finish Car wax works well. My preference is Liquid Glass (Recommended for Corvettes) I used it on my Corvettes for years. Interesting story about Liquid Glass and my Corvette--Had a vandal spray paint some profanities on my car. It wiped clean with Lighter fluid. Rewaxed, and there was no harm done. It does make the plastics shine.
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October 3rd, 2010, 03:35 PM | #15 |
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The only bad thong about lemon pledge is it attracts bees, other the. That it's gray for a once a week quick polish to keep the bike nice and shiny. Still need to wax every 6 months and use the lemon pledge in between. I have been using it on cars for years. And now use it on my bike.
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October 3rd, 2010, 09:11 PM | #17 |
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Weird - I have never heard another motorcyclist brag about having a dirty bike.
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Here we go again. This is one of the biggest controversies of motorcycle chain history. I personally use WD-40 on a rag to clean my chains. No issues to date.
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October 4th, 2010, 08:01 AM | #20 |
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When I worked at a dealer in the 80s they always used plege on the bikes in the showroom. Seemed silly at first but worked good. I usually was the bike then do an occastional spray wax on the plastics. Now and then I do a regular wax on the tank as I haven't put a tank protector on it yet and the wax gives a bit of protection. FWIW the CBR tank is actually a plastic tank cover itself, but is painted and does get scratches.
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October 4th, 2010, 08:02 AM | #21 |
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Too funny. I always keep mine clean, but I'm probably a little more over the top than most when it comes to that. But when I see bikes (or cars for that matter) that people never clean, with bugs and road dirt and brake dust etc., it gives me the perception that they are either too lazy, or just don't care about their stuff. I like your idea that a clean bike is a safe bike in that while cleaning it, you could come across a potential problem that otherwise would not be noticed. It gives me a bit of personal satisfaction and pride to know that I have a 2 year old bike that looks as good as the day I got it. I'm always getting someone asking me if it's new. But I've never had someone give me a hard time because it's clean. By the way, I ride mine to/from work every day unless it's raining or the temp is below 35 degrees. (It was 38 degrees when I rode this morning)
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If they can show proof on motorcycle chains, that's a different story. Here's a good example: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345397 He soaks O rings in different liquids for 24 hours to see their effects. WD 40 had no I'll effects, but carb cleaner and gas do. Back on topic, I try to wipe down my bike once a week |
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October 4th, 2010, 11:26 AM | #23 |
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SO I spent 8 hours saturday cleaning my bike. It's kind of funny once you get cleaning how you notice so much other stuff being dirty... I still have the bodywork to clean and polish, but the engine and everything under the body work is significantly cleaner and purdier now.... I also fondled the carbs and removed my APRS unit...
Pledge worked great on an already semi-clean surface, but anything with significant grease/oil (swing-arm, rear wheel, and front of the engine, where I found a small oil leak due to a loose hose), purple power, engine degreaser and lots and lots of elbow grease did the trick.... She's all smily now...
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October 4th, 2010, 12:28 PM | #24 |
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Ive used lemon pledge since day 1 of motorcycling. It is by far the absolute best polish out there.
I usually wash the bike with Meguire's automotive wash, scrub it down real good, and then dry it with a leaf blower, then it only takes a few minutes to apply the lemon pledge, and the results are like showbike shine. I use it on all the plastics, paint, windshield, headlights. Never had one single problem with using it on anything for the last 15 years. Just look out for the bees...they do like it....a LOT. |
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Bryan, You just solved the mystery as to why I had a bee fly into one of the large vents on my bicycle helmet and bite me in the head three times this summer. I used Pledge on the bike and helmet. I now have a fine mesh cover over my helmet. Amazing what you learn on this forum!
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I'm am nerd.... It basically does what the Spot does, in a different way, not as well, but for a whole lot less money. It was fun to play around with.
http://www.aprs.org/ http://www.newninja.com/modification...cycle-locator/
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