Steering Damper Bracket

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 16th, 2013, 07:28 PM

Does anyone know where I can just buy a bracket to mount a steering damper? I can find some dampers online for ~ $50 but it looks like they don't include or offer the bracket for the individual bike....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MO...61087260379%26

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MO...8c86db&vxp=mtr

csmith12 · August 16th, 2013, 07:35 PM

Your looking for a 37mm fork clamp. The are everywhere for cheap.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 16th, 2013, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Your looking for a 37mm fork clamp. The are everywhere for cheap.

Did you mean 36mm? Those are my clip on sizes..... I found the fork clamp but don't I need another bracket to secure the other end of the stabilizer?

brenthedtke83 · August 17th, 2013, 06:30 AM

This might sound really dumb, but what does the steering damper actually do?

csmith12 · August 17th, 2013, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

Did you mean 36mm? Those are my clip on sizes..... I found the fork clamp but don't I need another bracket to secure the other end of the stabilizer?

Yes, sorry 36mm for pregens. Us race guys just mount it to the front stay as seen in Rexbo's build thread. I don't think the front stay on the pregens will lend itself to such an easy install. So another bracket may have to be fabbed or you can get more creative.

Top mount with an anchor stem is another option but may require some drilling into your top triple.

Maybe someone with a damper prepped pregen can comment more. Also, if you come up with a mounting solution, post it up!

csmith12 · August 17th, 2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brenthedtke83

This might sound really dumb, but what does the steering damper actually do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_damper

Most riders deem it as unnecessary for a 250, although some race org require it to pass their tech inspection.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 17th, 2013, 10:23 AM

Well I'm mounting one to correct my steering wobble. I don't race at all I ride freestyle and it's really killing some of my progress atm.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 17th, 2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Maybe someone with a damper prepped pregen can comment more. Also, if you come up with a mounting solution, post it up!

The way he mounted it in the build thread looked pretty good to me. I'm gonna order the damper and play around with measurements around the forks and see what I come up with. It'll be easier once it's in my hands. I'm also installing a handbrake on my left bar and relocating my ignition switch so I've got a lot of fabbing to do. Oh and possibly a foot-hole in my passenger seat. Can you say re-sale value?? lol

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 17th, 2013, 11:28 AM

Just ordered this fork clamp. Now on to find a nice cheap damper.

choneofakind · August 17th, 2013, 12:43 PM

Where's the damper itself mount to? That part goes on the fork tube. I get that. But the other part? Confused

Edit: just read the link. Shoulda done that the first time.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 17th, 2013, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Where's the damper itself mount to? That part goes on the fork tube. I get that. But the other part? Confused

Edit: just read the link. Shoulda done that the first time.

Tisk Tisk chone. Do I see a damper install in your near future?

choneofakind · August 17th, 2013, 01:54 PM

Nope. I don't think it needs it. I get headshake every once in a while, but only when I've got too muh pressure on the bars over bumps. It's all just feedback telling me that I'm doing it wrong.

On a dedicated track bike that gets ridden 110% every time I'm on it, I'd likely feel differently.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 17th, 2013, 04:09 PM

Does anyone know if this damper is non-adjustable? There are plenty of really cheap dampers out there but they seem to be non adjustable and I'd hate to install one that didn't have enough or too much preload on it....

I do see a torx screw on it....

Tried googling it but got nada

http://www.ebay.com/itm/00-03-SUZUKI...5226f7&vxp=mtr

GeorgeRYoung · August 17th, 2013, 06:53 PM

The stroke of a steering damper has to be enough to allow lock-to-lock handlebar motion.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 18th, 2013, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeRYoung

The stroke of a steering damper has to be enough to allow lock-to-lock handlebar motion.

Thanks for pointing that out. I just haven't gotten around to measuring it yet.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 19th, 2013, 05:29 PM

It was a little cumbersome to measure but I got around 5in of travel which equates to ~127mm..... Does this sound right?

I can basically buy any damper as long as it has at least that much stroke correct??

GeorgeRYoung · August 20th, 2013, 11:32 AM

The Concours requires about 142mm and I used a Sprint (138mm travel, 420mm overall length) and shimmed the fork stops.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 20th, 2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeRYoung

The Concours requires about 142mm and I used a Sprint (138mm travel, 420mm overall length) and shimmed the fork stops.

Ok so if you had used 142mm+ stroke damper you wouldn't need to shim the forks correct?

Oh and how do you set the damping on yours? I'm looking at it on your webpage but I don't see any adjusting knob? Are all dampers adjustable??

GeorgeRYoung · August 20th, 2013, 01:23 PM

Yes, if there was one with exactly 142 mm of stroke. The next size Sprint is 160mm stroke, 460mm overall length, and wouldn't fit under the fairing.

The damping is adjustable, you can see the knob on the shaft end in the pic beside the measuring stick. If I left the knob in place, it would bash the inside of the fairing, so I adjusted it and then took off the knob.

For the record, it's adjusted to the minimum setting, completely cleans up the wobble.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · August 20th, 2013, 01:35 PM

Well it looks like I might have to go with a Chinese maker since everything is either non adjustable (which I'm worried might be too soft) or wayyy too much money..... Oh well no need to dump a lot of $$ just to get rid of some wobble.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · September 5th, 2013, 02:50 PM

Got my chinese steering damper in the mail today. I'm actually surprised of the quality but the true test is on the bike. It has 10 positions to adjust it to but I think the lowest setting is stiff enough. I'm not sure I could even turn the bars in time with the highest setting. I'll be figuring out how to attach it in the next few days. Stay posted!

I asked for a silver one but gold is fine. I hope this one has enough travel on it I measured the stroke at 2 7/8" but it does pivot in the center....
2013-09-05 16.22.12.jpg

GeorgeRYoung · September 5th, 2013, 02:53 PM

And the stroke is??

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · September 5th, 2013, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeRYoung

And the stroke is??

Seems it would be 73mm???? Not sure that's correct I measured the exposed rod's travel...

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · September 5th, 2013, 04:36 PM

Just looked at the bike and saw something pretty cool... There are threads on either side of the steering tube they look around 6 or 8mm thick and could potentially be where I mount this beast! Go check your bike out...

Does anyone know what they are for??? I don't remember unbolting anything from there....

http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/...-_-EX250/FRAME

rabies · September 6th, 2013, 07:13 AM

i have damper and clamp dirt cheap for sale...
pm me if anyone wants it

cuong-nutz · September 6th, 2013, 07:27 AM

click me

closest thing I could find

Been trying to talk to the guys over in Thailand. One of the guys started making these not too long ago....

Yes, I know it's a for the new gen and you may not be able to get it and it's probably out of your price range.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · September 6th, 2013, 06:05 PM

Didn't know they made those brackets for the 250. Interesting

August 16th, 2013, 07:28 PM	#1
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Steering Damper Bracket Does anyone know where I can just buy a bracket to mount a steering damper? I can find some dampers online for ~ $50 but it looks like they don't include or offer the bracket for the individual bike.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MO...61087260379%26 http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MO...8c86db&vxp=mtr __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

August 16th, 2013, 07:35 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Your looking for a 37mm fork clamp. The are everywhere for cheap. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 17th, 2013, 10:23 AM	#7
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Well I'm mounting one to correct my steering wobble. I don't race at all I ride freestyle and it's really killing some of my progress atm. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

August 17th, 2013, 11:28 AM	#9
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Just ordered this fork clamp. Now on to find a nice cheap damper. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

August 17th, 2013, 04:09 PM	#13
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Does anyone know if this damper is non-adjustable? There are plenty of really cheap dampers out there but they seem to be non adjustable and I'd hate to install one that didn't have enough or too much preload on it.... I do see a torx screw on it.... Tried googling it but got nada http://www.ebay.com/itm/00-03-SUZUKI...5226f7&vxp=mtr __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

August 17th, 2013, 06:30 AM	#4
brenthedtke83 ninjette.org member Name: Brent Location: pawleys island, sc Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 07 ninja 250r Posts: 19	This might sound really dumb, but what does the steering damper actually do?

August 17th, 2013, 12:43 PM	#10
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Where's the damper itself mount to? That part goes on the fork tube. I get that. But the other part? Confused Edit: just read the link. Shoulda done that the first time.

August 17th, 2013, 01:54 PM	#12
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Nope. I don't think it needs it. I get headshake every once in a while, but only when I've got too muh pressure on the bars over bumps. It's all just feedback telling me that I'm doing it wrong. On a dedicated track bike that gets ridden 110% every time I'm on it, I'd likely feel differently.

August 17th, 2013, 06:53 PM	#14
GeorgeRYoung ninjette.org member Name: George Location: Ottawa, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250, C10 Concours Posts: 109	stroke matters too, not just size The stroke of a steering damper has to be enough to allow lock-to-lock handlebar motion.

August 19th, 2013, 05:29 PM	#16
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	It was a little cumbersome to measure but I got around 5in of travel which equates to ~127mm..... Does this sound right? I can basically buy any damper as long as it has at least that much stroke correct?? __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

August 20th, 2013, 11:32 AM	#17
GeorgeRYoung ninjette.org member Name: George Location: Ottawa, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250, C10 Concours Posts: 109	sounds in the right ballpark The Concours requires about 142mm and I used a Sprint (138mm travel, 420mm overall length) and shimmed the fork stops.

August 20th, 2013, 01:23 PM	#19
GeorgeRYoung ninjette.org member Name: George Location: Ottawa, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250, C10 Concours Posts: 109	more damper stuff Yes, if there was one with exactly 142 mm of stroke. The next size Sprint is 160mm stroke, 460mm overall length, and wouldn't fit under the fairing. The damping is adjustable, you can see the knob on the shaft end in the pic beside the measuring stick. If I left the knob in place, it would bash the inside of the fairing, so I adjusted it and then took off the knob. For the record, it's adjusted to the minimum setting, completely cleans up the wobble.

August 20th, 2013, 01:35 PM	#20
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Well it looks like I might have to go with a Chinese maker since everything is either non adjustable (which I'm worried might be too soft) or wayyy too much money..... Oh well no need to dump a lot of $$ just to get rid of some wobble. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

September 5th, 2013, 02:50 PM	#21
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Got my chinese steering damper in the mail today. I'm actually surprised of the quality but the true test is on the bike. It has 10 positions to adjust it to but I think the lowest setting is stiff enough. I'm not sure I could even turn the bars in time with the highest setting. I'll be figuring out how to attach it in the next few days. Stay posted! I asked for a silver one but gold is fine. I hope this one has enough travel on it I measured the stroke at 2 7/8" but it does pivot in the center.... 2013-09-05 16.22.12.jpg __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

September 5th, 2013, 02:53 PM	#22
GeorgeRYoung ninjette.org member Name: George Location: Ottawa, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250, C10 Concours Posts: 109	And the stroke is??

September 5th, 2013, 04:36 PM	#24
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Just looked at the bike and saw something pretty cool... There are threads on either side of the steering tube they look around 6 or 8mm thick and could potentially be where I mount this beast! Go check your bike out... Does anyone know what they are for??? I don't remember unbolting anything from there.... http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/...-_-EX250/FRAME __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

September 6th, 2013, 07:13 AM	#25
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	i have damper and clamp dirt cheap for sale... pm me if anyone wants it __________________________________________________ The King

September 6th, 2013, 07:27 AM	#26
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	click me closest thing I could find Been trying to talk to the guys over in Thailand. One of the guys started making these not too long ago.... Yes, I know it's a for the new gen and you may not be able to get it and it's probably out of your price range. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

September 6th, 2013, 06:05 PM	#27
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Didn't know they made those brackets for the 250. Interesting __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

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