Might have accidently ran 2-cycle gas

UFOmoplata · August 18th, 2016, 06:57 AM

D'oh! Idiot!

It was an unlabeled can that might have been 2-cycle. Ran it through the carb. What's the damage? Just need to clean the the carb/empty the tank?

RacinNinja · August 18th, 2016, 06:58 AM

Drain carbs, drain tank. Refill with good fuel.

might wanna pull spark plugs and check for oil fouling but otherwise it won't damage anything. Some people run a bit of that or Castor oil for top end lube.

UFOmoplata · August 18th, 2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinNinja

Drain carbs, drain tank. Refill with good fuel.

might wanna pull spark plugs and check for oil fouling but otherwise it won't damage anything. Some people run a bit of that or Castor oil for top end lube.

Will do. Thank you.

Would 2-cycle cause drastic running/idle issues?

RacinNinja · August 18th, 2016, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOmoplata

Will do. Thank you.

Would 2-cycle cause drastic running/idle issues?

You betcha! (to both.)

Triple Jim · August 18th, 2016, 07:30 AM

How much it affects idle and running depends on the gasoline/oil ratio. At 50:1, you'll be running about 2% leaner than normal, which you probably wouldn't notice, or notice much. At 20:1 you'll be 5% leaner, which you probably would notice.

Having run 2-stroke engines all my life, including the H2 I still ride, if I did what you did, it wouldn't scare me a bit. I probably wouldn't even bother draining the tank unless the slightly leaner mixture caused pinging, for example.

You certainly don't need to clean the carb(s) because of this unless the 2-stroke mix had sand or some other debris in it.

jkv45 · August 18th, 2016, 07:30 AM

I'm gonna say you are fine as well. It's not going to hurt the carb or the engine.

If you are concerned, you could just top off the tank with regular gas to dilute it some.

I routinely add 2-stroke oil to may tank for storage (in addition to stabilizer). There's no difference in the way it runs.

verboten1 · August 18th, 2016, 07:43 AM

no problem! I used to be dumb and would add it on purpose. mostly because I was broke and my dads chainsaw gas was free

InvisiBill · August 18th, 2016, 09:21 AM

For the past three years, I've been adding two-stroke oil to every tank of gas I put in the bike.

UFOmoplata · August 18th, 2016, 09:22 AM

Sounds good. Thanks fellas.

RX-7 guys run 2-cycle all the time. They claim the rotary likes 2-cycle more than regular gas.

RacinNinja · August 18th, 2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOmoplata

Sounds good. Thanks fellas.

RX-7 guys run 2-cycle all the time. They claim the rotary likes 2-cycle more than regular gas.

Makes the Apex seals (equivalent of piston rings) last longer.

JohnnyBravo · August 18th, 2016, 09:46 AM

I put a bit of oil in the gas on most things around here, some on purpose, some just because; ain't blew nothing up yet... An I don't drain carbs, clean out this, or anything I run the things like I stole em

cadd · August 18th, 2016, 02:19 PM

I pour a bit of 2 cycle along with seafoam (or stabil) when I know th e bike won't get ridden for more than a month. However, the 2 cycle gas I use is the expensive premixed canister that I buy and use for my leaf blower (no ethanol and premium). Only reason I use that is because that 1 qt can lasts me an entire year with the minimum leaf blower use.

It's also 50:1, so little oil in there that the few ounces I pour in won't even make the bike idle differently.

How much did you accidentally poured in? What type/brand of 2 cycle oil was used for the mixture?

VaFish · August 18th, 2016, 06:17 PM

Well I guess it's too late for me to tell him the bike is screwed and I'll just haul it away for him.

JohnnyBravo · August 18th, 2016, 06:41 PM

^ this guy

Z1R rider · August 18th, 2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UFOmoplata

It was an unlabeled can that might have been 2-cycle. Ran it through the carb. What's the damage? Just need to clean the the carb/empty the tank?

So much better than 4-stroke gas in your 2-cycle!

Triple Jim · August 18th, 2016, 08:35 PM

Well, when you look at it that way... yes, it sure is.

hfd1 tuner · August 22nd, 2016, 09:53 AM

just add more pump fuel to it. The 2 cycle oil will do zero damage it is added to 2 strokes to lube internal engine parts and made to mix with fuel. I think the ethonal is way worse for bikes then any 2 stroke oil......

iNOSFERATUii · August 30th, 2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by InvisiBill

For the past three years, I've been adding two-stroke oil to every tank of gas I put in the bike.

But PLEASE...tell me what I did, said, or wrote that incurred your wrath to the point that you felt the need to 'target' ME ... when I am pretty sure I was not even active on this site at that time?

And please note, FWIW, that I have already stalked your profile and read your one blog entry, which does not answer my question as to why you felt the need to 'target' me!?

Alex · August 30th, 2016, 12:33 PM

@iNOSFERATUii - It's the [ you ] tag; every user sees their own username, not just you. Just like in my sig below... (if you log out and look at the same post, it'll become clear)

VaFish · August 30th, 2016, 01:39 PM

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@iNOSFERATUii - It's the [ you ] tag; every user sees their own username, not just you. Just like in my sig below... (if you log out and look at the same post, it'll become clear)

I gets a lot of us when we are new.

Got me in one of the first MOTM threads when someone used the you tag with a comment about they couldn't believe [ you ] was still a member after that post they made. I spent hours reading all my old posts trying to figure out what I had said wrong.

August 18th, 2016, 06:57 AM	#1
UFOmoplata ninjette.org member Name: Shoulder Blade Location: WV Join Date: Dec 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Hoodrat 250 Posts: 242	Might have accidently ran 2-cycle gas D'oh! Idiot! It was an unlabeled can that might have been 2-cycle. Ran it through the carb. What's the damage? Just need to clean the the carb/empty the tank? __________________________________________________ "Brah, you can't be looking like that on a 250, brah. You gotta mod a 250, brah. It's like the hachi-roku of bikes."

August 18th, 2016, 06:58 AM	#2
RacinNinja Vintage Screwball Name: B Location: Washington Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250, 2008 Ninja 250, 2019 KTM 1290SDR, 2017 FZ10 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '16	Drain carbs, drain tank. Refill with good fuel. might wanna pull spark plugs and check for oil fouling but otherwise it won't damage anything. Some people run a bit of that or Castor oil for top end lube. __________________________________________________ Goin' fast on slow bikes!

August 18th, 2016, 07:30 AM	#5
Triple Jim Guy Who Enjoys Riding Name: Jim Location: North Carolina Join Date: Jul 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16	How much it affects idle and running depends on the gasoline/oil ratio. At 50:1, you'll be running about 2% leaner than normal, which you probably wouldn't notice, or notice much. At 20:1 you'll be 5% leaner, which you probably would notice. Having run 2-stroke engines all my life, including the H2 I still ride, if I did what you did, it wouldn't scare me a bit. I probably wouldn't even bother draining the tank unless the slightly leaner mixture caused pinging, for example. You certainly don't need to clean the carb(s) because of this unless the 2-stroke mix had sand or some other debris in it.
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August 18th, 2016, 09:21 AM	#8
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August 18th, 2016, 07:30 AM	#6
jkv45 Rev Limiter Name: Jay Location: WI Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): '06 SV650n, '00 Derbi GPR, '64 CA77 Dream 305, '70 CL450 Scrambler, numerous dirt bikes Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '18, Oct '16	I'm gonna say you are fine as well. It's not going to hurt the carb or the engine. If you are concerned, you could just top off the tank with regular gas to dilute it some. I routinely add 2-stroke oil to may tank for storage (in addition to stabilizer). There's no difference in the way it runs.

August 18th, 2016, 09:22 AM	#9
UFOmoplata ninjette.org member Name: Shoulder Blade Location: WV Join Date: Dec 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Hoodrat 250 Posts: 242	Sounds good. Thanks fellas. RX-7 guys run 2-cycle all the time. They claim the rotary likes 2-cycle more than regular gas. __________________________________________________ "Brah, you can't be looking like that on a 250, brah. You gotta mod a 250, brah. It's like the hachi-roku of bikes."

August 18th, 2016, 09:46 AM	#11
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I put a bit of oil in the gas on most things around here, some on purpose, some just because; ain't blew nothing up yet... An I don't drain carbs, clean out this, or anything I run the things like I stole em __________________________________________________

August 18th, 2016, 02:19 PM	#12
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	I pour a bit of 2 cycle along with seafoam (or stabil) when I know th e bike won't get ridden for more than a month. However, the 2 cycle gas I use is the expensive premixed canister that I buy and use for my leaf blower (no ethanol and premium). Only reason I use that is because that 1 qt can lasts me an entire year with the minimum leaf blower use. It's also 50:1, so little oil in there that the few ounces I pour in won't even make the bike idle differently. How much did you accidentally poured in? What type/brand of 2 cycle oil was used for the mixture? __________________________________________________ Riding it like I financed it.

August 18th, 2016, 06:17 PM	#13
VaFish ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Tom Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Jul 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250, 2019 Harley Ultra Classic, 2001 Suzuki SV650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '16	Well I guess it's too late for me to tell him the bike is screwed and I'll just haul it away for him.
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August 18th, 2016, 06:41 PM	#14
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	^ this guy __________________________________________________

August 18th, 2016, 08:35 PM	#16
Triple Jim Guy Who Enjoys Riding Name: Jim Location: North Carolina Join Date: Jul 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16	Well, when you look at it that way... yes, it sure is.

August 22nd, 2016, 09:53 AM	#17
hfd1 tuner ninjette.org member Name: charles Location: Sugar Hill GA. Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): many mostly racebikes cbr565 fzr490 ex250ish Posts: 40	just add more pump fuel to it. The 2 cycle oil will do zero damage it is added to 2 strokes to lube internal engine parts and made to mix with fuel. I think the ethonal is way worse for bikes then any 2 stroke oil......

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