quick question about fuse size

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 07:48 PM

i never took a look at the size of our fuses. could someone please tell me if we have the mini or standard size fuses? thanks.

i need to get a 25 amp fuse for my HID kit.

kkim · April 7th, 2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

i need to get a 25 amp fuse for my HID kit.

no you don't.

fuse block is under the seat.

Alex · April 7th, 2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

i need to get a 25 amp fuse for my HID kit.

Bad idea, the wiring that the fuses are protecting isn't rated for 25 amps. Only way you want to put a 25 amp fuse in there is if you're upgrading the entire wiring loop from battery all the way through to the HID ballasts to be capable of a 25 amp load.

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 07:56 PM

well, the instructions for my kit say to change to a 25 amp in BOLD RED print, so i figure i better be safe and just follow it. maybe different kits have different requirements? idk.

yeah, i know the fuse block is under the seat. i am just too lazy to pull of my seat and go check.

thought someone might know offhand.

edit: didn't see alex's post....
well, i guess i can run the stock one and see what happens?

sometimesido · April 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM

that instruction for motorcycle or a car?

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 07:58 PM

the instructions are for a motorcycle. actually, they don't have a specific 250 one. they give the 03-07 zx6r instructions.

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 08:00 PM

http://f-sane.com/guide/05zx6rhid.pdf

kkim · April 7th, 2009, 08:00 PM

I would ride it with what's in there now. (that's what I've been doing for over a year now)

Be sure not to have the hi light on when you start the bike and that will help some with the current draw. (haven't looked... don't even know if all the lights are on the same fuse)

If you blow fuse, replace it with the next step higher amperage one, though I doubt you will ever have to do that.

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 08:02 PM

ok... i trust you guys more than the instructions. strange that it says to make sure to start up with both headlights on.

was thinking about just hooking up the low beam side and running the stock high beam. idk.

Viper-Byte · April 7th, 2009, 08:06 PM

When I installed my HIDs, if I ever went to high beam (start the bike with low beam only then after 5 mins turn on high beam) I would blow the stock 10A headlight fuse. I replaced mine with the next step up, a 15A fuse and have had no more issues. I can start the bike with both on and it is fine.

kkim · April 7th, 2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

ok... i trust you guys more than the instructions. strange that it says to make sure to start up with both headlights on.

was thinking about just hooking up the low beam side and running the stock high beam. idk.

do the hi beam too... you will be amazed what you can see on an unlit road at night.

Sound Wave · April 7th, 2009, 08:10 PM

ok thanks everyone for the quick replies. i will do both.

sometimesido · April 7th, 2009, 08:10 PM

light polution!

B2FiNiTY · April 7th, 2009, 09:35 PM

15A is probably the best compromise you can make. don't go any higher.

smcbride11 · April 8th, 2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by B2FiNiTY

15A is probably the best compromise you can make. don't go any higher.

I looked through the Service Manual and didn't see anything defining the gauge of the wire - I'd measure the headlight wires to check the gauge, and then find the maximum amperage for that wire.

Going directly to a 25A fuse is the equivalent of sticking a penny in your fuse at home. Everything will work fine, but nothing will ever stop an overload (and therefore a fire).

15A may well be unsafe also, as it may be too much amperage for the circuit.

kkim · April 8th, 2009, 03:07 PM

when calculating a wire's max amp capability, not only does the gauge have an affect, but also distance of run, too, though I guess in this case it's negligible.

April 7th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#1
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	quick question about fuse size i never took a look at the size of our fuses. could someone please tell me if we have the mini or standard size fuses? thanks. i need to get a 25 amp fuse for my HID kit.

April 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#5
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	that instruction for motorcycle or a car? __________________________________________________ my flickr™

April 7th, 2009, 08:06 PM	#10
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	When I installed my HIDs, if I ever went to high beam (start the bike with low beam only then after 5 mins turn on high beam) I would blow the stock 10A headlight fuse. I replaced mine with the next step up, a 15A fuse and have had no more issues. I can start the bike with both on and it is fine. __________________________________________________ 2008 GREEN Kawasaki Ninja 250R. AreaP Quiet Core Carbon Fibre : 8000k HIDs : Dynojet Jet kit : Double Bubble Windscreen

April 7th, 2009, 08:10 PM	#13
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	light polution! __________________________________________________ my flickr™

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April 7th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#4
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	well, the instructions for my kit say to change to a 25 amp in BOLD RED print, so i figure i better be safe and just follow it. maybe different kits have different requirements? idk. yeah, i know the fuse block is under the seat. i am just too lazy to pull of my seat and go check. thought someone might know offhand. edit: didn't see alex's post.... well, i guess i can run the stock one and see what happens?

April 7th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#6
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	the instructions are for a motorcycle. actually, they don't have a specific 250 one. they give the 03-07 zx6r instructions.

April 7th, 2009, 08:00 PM	#7
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	http://f-sane.com/guide/05zx6rhid.pdf

April 7th, 2009, 08:00 PM	#8
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I would ride it with what's in there now. (that's what I've been doing for over a year now) Be sure not to have the hi light on when you start the bike and that will help some with the current draw. (haven't looked... don't even know if all the lights are on the same fuse) If you blow fuse, replace it with the next step higher amperage one, though I doubt you will ever have to do that.

April 7th, 2009, 08:02 PM	#9
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	ok... i trust you guys more than the instructions. strange that it says to make sure to start up with both headlights on. was thinking about just hooking up the low beam side and running the stock high beam. idk.

April 7th, 2009, 09:35 PM	#14
B2FiNiTY ninjette.org member Name: D Location: cali Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawi Ninja 250R Posts: 114	15A is probably the best compromise you can make. don't go any higher.

April 8th, 2009, 03:07 PM	#16
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	when calculating a wire's max amp capability, not only does the gauge have an affect, but also distance of run, too, though I guess in this case it's negligible.