January 5th, 2010, 11:17 AM | #1 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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Moderated user registration
I enabled moderated user registration today. Doesn't change a thing for existing users, and only means that new signups are delayed until I enable each individual account. Any account that chooses and all-caps username, muddles their first name, or lists no motorcycles just gets deleted instead of approved, as there is 99% chance that it's an automated spambot.
Pain in the ass to have to do this, and I wish it weren't necessary, but this is the more appropriate choice rather than having to delete spam posts day after day from these new bot accounts.
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January 5th, 2010, 11:43 AM | #2 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Ryan
Location: Carlisle, PA
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.
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Maybe we need to make it more clear that they need to list a motorcycle or say "None yet." I know it says that is a perfectly acceptable answer, but it would be a shame to lose real users because they didn't enter either a motorcycle name or none yet.
Just my $0.02. Keep up the good work Alex. So far we have had relatively little trouble with spammers. |
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January 5th, 2010, 12:22 PM | #3 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
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I had been noticing more spamers here so I am glad you have made these changes.
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January 5th, 2010, 01:36 PM | #4 | |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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So far, in hindsight, the spam accounts are easy to pick out. People do sign up with fake first names (like: ashkjdlajskhd), answer the motorcycle question in such a way that it's obvious they are up to no good. Of course if someone signs up with perfect info, there's no way for me to absolutely confirm that their intentions aren't spam, but the likelihood is lower. And if I do in fact go the wrong way and don't enable the account of someone because I have a strong feeling it's a spam account, the user will likely send another note to the Contact Us link wondering why their account wasn't enabled.
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January 5th, 2010, 02:05 PM | #5 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Ryan
Location: Carlisle, PA
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.
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Sounds like you have it all under control (which I never doubted ). I'm all for a method that is less work for you, and keeps the spammers out.
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January 6th, 2010, 06:43 AM | #6 |
Psychic war veteran
Name: Thomas
Location: Norfolk, VA
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Kawi Green '09 Ninja ZX6R Posts: 663
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Sucks to have to do it that way, but it's probably the only real way to prevent the spam bots? That is, until the bots get much smarter and actually start filling in real information, I guess.
It's like missile/counter-missile technology. Neither has the edge over the other for very long!
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January 10th, 2010, 04:35 PM | #7 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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OK - I'm trying to attack this a different way. I've turned off Moderation, so people can sign up immediately like before without me having to manually OK them. But I've enabled an anti-spammer check that works with www.stopforumspam.com to see if that user is on their blocked list. After having it up for 5 minutes today, it already blocked 2 new spammer registrations, I was pretty impressed. I also enabled additional spam-scanning on posts themselves, to hopefully pick up the issue if someone does manage to get through registration and then starts spamming.
I'll let this go for a short while to see how well it works, but please let me know if anyone sees any weirdness in their own usage of the site. If this works well, nobody should notice a thing. Other than much less spam.
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January 10th, 2010, 04:55 PM | #8 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14
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Less spam is a good thing. Thank you Alex.
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January 16th, 2010, 09:57 AM | #9 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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Wow. Since I made this change just about a week ago, it has blocked 850 attempts by different spam accounts to signup. This blocking happens before you have to go through that reCAPTCHA "type these words" test, so many of them wouldn't have gotten through that, but I'm amazed at how many attempts there are in the first place.
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January 16th, 2010, 10:00 AM | #10 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14
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Alex thanks for keeping this place bot free.
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January 16th, 2010, 02:27 PM | #11 | |
dirty old man
Name: Chris
Location: Hazel Green, AL
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 1
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May 11th, 2012, 09:28 AM | #12 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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A new generation of spambots is starting to add blog posts, rather than posts within the forums. I think this is due to the better controls on the forum areas of vBulletin (and other tools), but not so much progress on the blog side.
I've deleted a handful of accounts in the past week, including one that had added > 1000 bogus blog entries on the site. I don't have an automated way of catching these yet, though the good thing is once I delete their account it also deletes all their blog entries, which is even simpler than the forum side where you need to delete them separately. So - if you see any bogus blog entries, let me know so I can deal with them. Thx!
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May 11th, 2012, 09:36 AM | #13 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Jason
Location: Houston, TX
Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 (sold), '06 Ninja 650R Posts: 455
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@Alex - On another forum one of the entry requirements is to make a post in the new users section before you have full posting access. Maybe that is another way to weed out the bots.
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May 11th, 2012, 09:40 AM | #14 |
One Loyal Fox
Name: Rahul
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R (RIP), 2011 ZX-6R Posts: 869
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keep up the good work!!!
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May 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM | #15 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Jon
Location: Newark, De
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
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I run a forum for the game I play online and I understand completely. I get my e-mails on my phone so I can approve/deny anyone as soon as I get the e-mail. I just click a link on the e-mail which takes me to my dolphin browser and approve or deny registration from there. Little bit more work for you, but it's a good choice if you want the opinion of a fellow forum admin on another forum!
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May 11th, 2012, 12:16 PM | #16 |
Jigglin' your Jiglets
Name: Sean
Location: San Jose, Ca
Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 1
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Well, who reads blogs anyway
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May 11th, 2012, 12:46 PM | #17 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 7
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Yup. (this is a bumped old thread, for those that have started from the beginning). Very happy with the forum spam controls, and I haven't had to resort to manual approving/denying user access for quite some time now. I'd prefer not to, as there are some periods where I'm away from the site for a few days, and it's ultimately better if people receive immediate access when appropriate.
I guess I'm realizing I need to research some better blogging controls. The problem is that the different user types that are available on the blog side are more rudimentary than on the forum side, so it's not a straightforward fix.
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May 11th, 2012, 12:48 PM | #18 | |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Jon
Location: Newark, De
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
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May 11th, 2012, 12:49 PM | #19 | |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Jon
Location: Newark, De
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
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