Shimming the needles question

Tubesock · June 10th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Does shimming the needles work the same as having a jet kit with the needle and the clip? If so, how many washers would equal one position on the adjustable needle?

kkim · June 10th, 2009, 03:49 PM

yes, it's the same as raising the needle.

approx. 2 washers= one clip position.

Tubesock · June 11th, 2009, 09:11 AM

How did i know Kim was going to be the one to answer.

kkim · June 11th, 2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubesock

How did i know Kim was going to be the one to answer.

would you rather I didn't?

Tubesock · June 11th, 2009, 10:17 AM

No I'm grateful you answered it looking back on it now I probably should've just sent you a PM haha.

kkim · June 11th, 2009, 10:24 AM

You can certainly PM me, but I like it better this way as the info is here for all to see and if someone has a differing opinion they can join in.

TnNinjaGirl · June 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM

I was wondering the same thing actually. Thanks David.

andrewwoo · August 10th, 2009, 10:35 AM

hmm.. which one is preferred.. i have heard.. #98 and #100 will work, but are there differences? and also do i need anything else from home depot besides the metal washers?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

kkim · August 10th, 2009, 10:40 AM

just leave the stock 98 in there. that way you don't have to touch the main jet at all. it works well as it's rich from the factory as delivered.

pingpong · August 12th, 2009, 12:12 PM

hey kkim.. i just my ordered my yoshi full.. will it be ok to just shim and remove snorkel?

kkim · August 12th, 2009, 12:16 PM

I believe so... try using 3 shims in each needle as a starting point and adjust as needed. be sure to use 3mm washers.

pingpong · August 12th, 2009, 02:25 PM

3mm? i bought a bag of those assorted washers from radioshack.. with the #2, #4, #6, #8, and #10.. which ones would i be using?

kkim · August 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM

#4

andrewwoo · August 12th, 2009, 03:32 PM

oh so how many #4 (3mm) do i need for the entire process? 6?

and also what could i remove before i get my exhaust in? thanks in advance!

kkim · August 12th, 2009, 03:39 PM

that depends... what are you doing to the airbox/intake side?

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewwoo

oh so how many #4 (3mm) do i need for the entire process? 6?

and also what could i remove before i get my exhaust in? thanks in advance!

andrewwoo · August 12th, 2009, 03:44 PM

well i planned to take out the snorkel and airbox.. if its easy to take out (any threads to it?)

and then replace the air filter with K&N which i already did... so with the "right" tweaks how many washers should i get?

kkim · August 12th, 2009, 03:52 PM

which is it... remove only the snorkel or the airbox? each requires different jetting approaches.

andrewwoo · August 12th, 2009, 04:03 PM

oh really? ok what if i jsut removed the snorkel how many washer is that

and also

how many washers do i need for full exhaust and removal of the snorkel?

THANKS KELLY!

kkim · August 12th, 2009, 04:10 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...light=shimming

a10forwar · August 15th, 2009, 11:33 AM

I havent removed my airbox yet, i have put 0.032 shim. Should I remove it? No other mod.

kkim · August 15th, 2009, 12:17 PM

depends on what you want to achieve and how much work you're willing into pulling the airbox and into rejetting the bike.

June 11th, 2009, 09:11 AM	#3
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	How did i know Kim was going to be the one to answer. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

June 11th, 2009, 10:17 AM	#5
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	No I'm grateful you answered it looking back on it now I probably should've just sent you a PM haha. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

August 12th, 2009, 03:32 PM	#14
andrewwoo WHEE! Name: Andrew Location: VA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Black Kawi 250R Posts: 91	oh so how many #4 (3mm) do i need for the entire process? 6? and also what could i remove before i get my exhaust in? thanks in advance! __________________________________________________ 2009 Metallic Diablo Black Ninja 250R 6000K H7 HIDs \| Targa Fender Eliminator Pazzo Levers \| PROGRIP Tank Pad

August 12th, 2009, 03:44 PM	#16
andrewwoo WHEE! Name: Andrew Location: VA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Black Kawi 250R Posts: 91	well i planned to take out the snorkel and airbox.. if its easy to take out (any threads to it?) and then replace the air filter with K&N which i already did... so with the "right" tweaks how many washers should i get? __________________________________________________ 2009 Metallic Diablo Black Ninja 250R 6000K H7 HIDs \| Targa Fender Eliminator Pazzo Levers \| PROGRIP Tank Pad

August 12th, 2009, 04:03 PM	#18
andrewwoo WHEE! Name: Andrew Location: VA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Black Kawi 250R Posts: 91	oh really? ok what if i jsut removed the snorkel how many washer is that and also how many washers do i need for full exhaust and removal of the snorkel? THANKS KELLY! __________________________________________________ 2009 Metallic Diablo Black Ninja 250R 6000K H7 HIDs \| Targa Fender Eliminator Pazzo Levers \| PROGRIP Tank Pad

June 10th, 2009, 02:37 PM	#1
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Shimming the needles question Does shimming the needles work the same as having a jet kit with the needle and the clip? If so, how many washers would equal one position on the adjustable needle? __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

June 10th, 2009, 03:49 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yes, it's the same as raising the needle. approx. 2 washers= one clip position.

June 11th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#6
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	You can certainly PM me, but I like it better this way as the info is here for all to see and if someone has a differing opinion they can join in.

June 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#7
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	I was wondering the same thing actually. Thanks David.

August 10th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#8
andrewwoo WHEE! Name: Andrew Location: VA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Black Kawi 250R Posts: 91	hmm.. which one is preferred.. i have heard.. #98 and #100 will work, but are there differences? and also do i need anything else from home depot besides the metal washers? THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! __________________________________________________ 2009 Metallic Diablo Black Ninja 250R 6000K H7 HIDs \| Targa Fender Eliminator Pazzo Levers \| PROGRIP Tank Pad

August 10th, 2009, 10:40 AM	#9
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	just leave the stock 98 in there. that way you don't have to touch the main jet at all. it works well as it's rich from the factory as delivered.

August 12th, 2009, 12:12 PM	#10
pingpong ninjette.org newbie Name: pong Location: seattle Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r Posts: 9	hey kkim.. i just my ordered my yoshi full.. will it be ok to just shim and remove snorkel?

August 12th, 2009, 12:16 PM	#11
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I believe so... try using 3 shims in each needle as a starting point and adjust as needed. be sure to use 3mm washers.

August 12th, 2009, 02:25 PM	#12
pingpong ninjette.org newbie Name: pong Location: seattle Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r Posts: 9	3mm? i bought a bag of those assorted washers from radioshack.. with the #2, #4, #6, #8, and #10.. which ones would i be using?

August 12th, 2009, 02:32 PM	#13
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	#4

August 12th, 2009, 03:52 PM	#17
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	which is it... remove only the snorkel or the airbox? each requires different jetting approaches.

August 12th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#19
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...light=shimming

August 15th, 2009, 11:33 AM	#20
a10forwar ninjette.org member Name: James Location: GE Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 31	I havent removed my airbox yet, i have put 0.032 shim. Should I remove it? No other mod.

August 15th, 2009, 12:17 PM	#21
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	depends on what you want to achieve and how much work you're willing into pulling the airbox and into rejetting the bike.

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