Onboard playing with the big bikes in Intermediate

zvonler · August 19th, 2013, 07:39 AM

I was at MSR Cresson this weekend, mostly practicing on my literbike in the Advanced group, but I took my 250 out for a few laps in the Intermediate group as well. It was really relaxing to get on the 250 after fighting the big bike, I think mostly because there's only two braking zones for the 250 compared to six on the RSV4.

I annotated the passes with some explanation for those that might be newer to the sport and wondering how to go big bike hunting on a 250.

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · August 19th, 2013, 07:45 AM

That oil slick was really long!

allanoue · August 19th, 2013, 07:48 AM

cool vid
thanks

zvonler · August 19th, 2013, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

That oil slick was really long!

No kidding! The bike lost its oil filter (so I heard) and dumped that oil all along the little straight there. He ended up going down in that right hander, and then three more bikes went down as well before they could get a red flag up. I was maybe the 10th rider to come up on it and by that time one of the instructors had pulled off to the side and was pointing at the track and waving his arms too. Everyone was ok, and at least one of the bikes that got taken out was still rideable. Just one of those track day risks, I guess.

ninjamunky85 · August 19th, 2013, 07:59 AM

Cool, nice riding. Looks like a fun track on the 250.

dfox · August 19th, 2013, 08:58 AM

nice riding. that was fun to watch.

i need to get out and open up my bike on a track at some point here...

Jiggles · August 19th, 2013, 10:47 AM

That's a huge track!

alex.s · August 19th, 2013, 10:52 AM

looks like fun! you look nice and cozy on your bike.

zvonler · August 19th, 2013, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

That's a huge track!

Yeah? It's only 1.7 miles. There is a separate 1.3mi track at the same facility, and they can join them to make a 3.1mi loop. Now that is a big track...

Jiggles · August 19th, 2013, 02:46 PM

I meant that it is really wide. Like really really wide

subxero · August 19th, 2013, 04:17 PM

those 2 people you passed looked like scrubs, JMO

(P.S. i have never raced a day in my life so take it for what it is worth)

zvonler · August 19th, 2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

those 2 people you passed looked like scrubs, JMO

(P.S. i have never raced a day in my life so take it for what it is worth)

Aww man, you mean I don't get a trophy for that??

Yeah, I know they weren't going fast. I do race the 250s, so I expect to be a lot more aggressive than most of the Intermediate riders. I only explained those passes because I felt like they were kind of "textbook", and because I've seen other 250 riders get hung up behind big bikes being ridden like that.

csmith12 · August 19th, 2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

those 2 people you passed looked like scrubs, JMO

Here now young man.... Those riders are semi typical I group riders at alot of track days. They will be fast riders soon enough as long as they keep workin' it.

Chasing down a faster rider on a 250 just gives them incentive....

JohnnyBravo · August 19th, 2013, 07:47 PM

Great vid! Thanks for the share and the advice!

sharky nrk · August 20th, 2013, 06:16 AM

Rattlesnake > Me lol

I imagine you race the 250 with CMRA? You may know my little brother Mitch (Mklein3004 on here).

subxero · August 20th, 2013, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvonler

Aww man, you mean I don't get a trophy for that??

Yeah, I know they weren't going fast. I do race the 250s, so I expect to be a lot more aggressive than most of the Intermediate riders. I only explained those passes because I felt like they were kind of "textbook", and because I've seen other 250 riders get hung up behind big bikes being ridden like that.

No I agree, the passes were good

zvonler · August 20th, 2013, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

I imagine you race the 250 with CMRA? You may know my little brother Mitch (Mklein3004 on here).

Yeah, I race with CMRA. I know he and I have been in the same races, but I don't think we've met.

Aodrn · August 20th, 2013, 02:00 PM

I would love to see more videos like that. I am new to the track this season, so your captions really helped me figure out what I have been reading in books and online. I bought a 250r to make myself become a better rider, so a video like this is gold! Thanks and keep it coming

gantt · August 20th, 2013, 02:53 PM

Great video. thanks for posting. a guy at work was looking over my shoulder and remarked that there was nothing exciting about it. i said well considering this guy has around 80-100 hp less than the people he is passing it is pretty exciting. he still didn't get it. oh well

Aodrn · August 20th, 2013, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gantt

Great video. thanks for posting. a guy at work was looking over my shoulder and remarked that there was nothing exciting about it. i said well considering this guy has around 80-100 hp less than the people he is passing it is pretty exciting. he still didn't get it. oh well

He probably plays golf

zvonler · August 20th, 2013, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

I would love to see more videos like that. I am new to the track this season, so your captions really helped me figure out what I have been reading in books and online. I bought a 250r to make myself become a better rider, so a video like this is gold! Thanks and keep it coming

Glad you liked it. Here's some more from the 250 vs. big bikes category. These aren't annotated, but ask away if you have questions.

Harris Hill Road, a local small track:

Link to original page on YouTube.

Texas World Speedway (good examples of chasing down big bikes):

Link to original page on YouTube.

Good clip of chasing down a guy at MSRH that took a couple laps:

Link to original page on YouTube.

Short clip at MSRH with a ton of passes:

Link to original page on YouTube.

gantt · August 21st, 2013, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

He probably plays golf

HaHaha. He does at that. and he criticizes me for wearing leather. he's a douche. i think he is jealous because he tried to get a bike last year and his wife killed it.

gt_turbo · August 21st, 2013, 01:40 PM

Cool videos. Keep them coming.

subxero · August 22nd, 2013, 03:46 PM

that texas speedway track surface looks like ****

MKlein3004 · August 23rd, 2013, 03:42 PM

Most Texas track surfaces suck ass

August 19th, 2013, 07:39 AM	#1
zvonler ninjette.org member Name: Zach Location: Texas Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 70	Onboard playing with the big bikes in Intermediate I was at MSR Cresson this weekend, mostly practicing on my literbike in the Advanced group, but I took my 250 out for a few laps in the Intermediate group as well. It was really relaxing to get on the 250 after fighting the big bike, I think mostly because there's only two braking zones for the 250 compared to six on the RSV4. I annotated the passes with some explanation for those that might be newer to the sport and wondering how to go big bike hunting on a 250. Link to original page on YouTube.

August 19th, 2013, 07:45 AM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	That oil slick was really long! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 19th, 2013, 07:59 AM	#5
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	Cool, nice riding. Looks like a fun track on the 250. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

August 19th, 2013, 10:47 AM	#7
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	That's a huge track! __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 19th, 2013, 10:52 AM	#8
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	looks like fun! you look nice and cozy on your bike. __________________________________________________

August 19th, 2013, 07:48 AM	#3
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	cool vid thanks

August 19th, 2013, 08:58 AM	#6
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	nice riding. that was fun to watch. i need to get out and open up my bike on a track at some point here...

August 19th, 2013, 02:46 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I meant that it is really wide. Like really really wide __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 19th, 2013, 04:17 PM	#11
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	those 2 people you passed looked like scrubs, JMO (P.S. i have never raced a day in my life so take it for what it is worth) __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

August 19th, 2013, 07:47 PM	#14
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Great vid! Thanks for the share and the advice! __________________________________________________

August 20th, 2013, 06:16 AM	#15
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Rattlesnake > Me lol I imagine you race the 250 with CMRA? You may know my little brother Mitch (Mklein3004 on here).

August 20th, 2013, 02:00 PM	#18
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	I would love to see more videos like that. I am new to the track this season, so your captions really helped me figure out what I have been reading in books and online. I bought a 250r to make myself become a better rider, so a video like this is gold! Thanks and keep it coming

August 20th, 2013, 02:53 PM	#19
gantt ninjette.org sage Name: michael Location: Central Georgia Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2019 Ninja 400, Sold 2012 Ninja 650, Sold 2009 Ninja 250r, Sold 2007 DRZ400s Posts: 628	Great video. thanks for posting. a guy at work was looking over my shoulder and remarked that there was nothing exciting about it. i said well considering this guy has around 80-100 hp less than the people he is passing it is pretty exciting. he still didn't get it. oh well

August 21st, 2013, 01:40 PM	#23
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	Cool videos. Keep them coming. __________________________________________________ Mods: 636 front suspension conversion, wc clip ons, bohemian rear sets, FP jets, k&n filter, and AP full race exhaust

August 22nd, 2013, 03:46 PM	#24
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	that texas speedway track surface looks like **** __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

August 23rd, 2013, 03:42 PM	#25
MKlein3004 Fighting Texas Aggie '08 Name: Mitchell Location: Allen, Tx Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Race), 2005 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R 636 (Track), 2005 Ducati Monster 620 (Street) Posts: 541	Most Texas track surfaces suck ass

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