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Old June 10th, 2020, 06:10 AM   #1
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250r gearbox

hi new here new to 250r 2010 , the friends bike wont change or find a gear only shifted into 1 and2 so far its
just in netural . bike was parked up 2 yrs ago she was carrying extra internal cargo and now wants back on the road ,

Anyway will get it started put freshoils etc but has anyone had this happen , no history on this bike she lent it came back dodge ! checked clutch cable and will adjust gear leaver !

Any ideas ? been around bikes so understand the basics cheers O
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Old June 10th, 2020, 08:01 AM   #2
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Are you actually running the bike on the road to shift? It won't shift normally if you're trying to do it while it's sitting still.

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Old June 10th, 2020, 09:59 AM   #3
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Hi Patrick and welcome to Ninjette!

Yeah, engine has to be running before you can shift into 1st or 2nd gear (with clutch squeezed).
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Old June 10th, 2020, 12:13 PM   #4
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ok cheers guys so QS so 250r will no shift into 1n2 unless engine is idling ? whats this modern kawa wizardry only owned one 250 at new 84/5 cant remember GREEN/WH KR 250 great runner , 85 z750lafew of themz9 z1m2 etc in kawas and al the other one s have clicked in grear , present tourier is in gear right now was 2 lazy to stick on centre stand ( livin in the hills / ranges still got a few mid 80s 250/350/500s old rz yama same deal ?

anyway will 3 if i can get it to shift just want a quick idea to work out where ,wat to look for a spare s /wrecker dealers etc , as i said cables seam to feels like it click into 1st down , adjusted who knows not much movenent either way saw aposted photo of little dots on someone post big red arows ,i have a look sharft spline looked ok ? thimk get it started and go from there > any advice CHeers Thanks ,is there on line workshop manual ridden somewhere ? cheers Pat
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Old June 10th, 2020, 02:08 PM   #5
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This feature is called "Positive Neutral Finder" and is available on several different makes of bikes. It WILL NOT shift into 2nd gear unless engine & rear-wheel is spinning.

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Postive Neutral Finder Mechanism

Along with other safety features such as Kickstand position detection, clutch-lever position detection, neutral-gear detection in AND/OR logic circuit to enable/disable starting bike.

3. Not sure what you're asking, clutch cable adjustment? There's no cable for shifter, it's simple push/pull rod on left side shift-lever. Just lift it up until it clicks into neutral. Then push bike around to confirm it's in neutral. No clutch action needed for any of this. Then start it up once it's in neutral.

Oh yea, there's interlock safety switches that needs to be set properly:

- neutral switch grounded when in neutral
- kickstand switch grounded when kickstand is up
- clutch lever switch in squeezed position (3-wire 2-states)

When all those are aligned properly, only then will start-button crank starter. Very common to have kickstand-switch out of alignment so kickstand doesn't push on button properly.
https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Unders...afety_switches
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Old June 10th, 2020, 02:33 PM   #6
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thanks mate, yep re cluch cable it was worded wrong it running free pull in ctch , , had a quick look at shifter its basically ok and plenty to room to adjust , was not aware of side stand switch didnt realy look ill throw a muliti meter and a few extra tools on the bike and look after shes back from school drop off , plus its bloody cold in the valley lol cheers mate , so gearbox wet clutch what the gear oil felt lite oil , so ill renew fuild clean out old old fuel , check sparks, air fiter and all the bits check rubber etc and see what its doing or not doing ! thanks have a good one
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Good luck! Once you iron out these bugs, you won't ever have to deal with them. Just one at a time!
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