Can Ninja 300 ABS system from EX300B be ordered/installed on non-ABS EX300A? EX250J?

CZroe · October 26th, 2012, 11:26 AM

I see a lot of people waiting for ABS and I wondered if they could "buy now, upgrade later" without having to upgrade the entire bike. That also got me wondering "how much?" and "will it fit the 250?". So, how much is this likely to cost and can it be made to fit the 250?

alex.s · October 26th, 2012, 11:34 AM

minimum would need the front encoder wheel, pickup, electronics package, and the brake release solenoid. that alone is probably going to cost you around $1000 to order oem parts and who knows if the abs electronics is integrated with the ignition system... and who knows if the ignition system is compatible.

i think you should buy the parts and find out

Alex · October 26th, 2012, 12:09 PM

It's a different caliper, potentially a different master cylinder, in addition to what alex.s listed above. With enough money and time anything is possible, but it would be much less money and time to just sell the non-abs bike and buy the abs version.

Dark · April 19th, 2013, 04:21 AM

Not worth it and you don't need it.

tfkrocks · April 19th, 2013, 06:59 AM

Buying new, the ABS version is $500 more than the non-ABS SE. If its about $1000 to add on ABS to a non-ABS bike like alex.s says, definitely better to just get the ABS bike itself.

CZroe · April 19th, 2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Buying new, the ABS version is $500 more than the non-ABS SE. If its about $1000 to add on ABS to a non-ABS bike like alex.s says, definitely better to just get the ABS bike itself.

I was curious to know if it could be adapted to the 250J (I prefer the 250J's styling). It could be sourced from a crashed 300B for all I care.

I assume people aren't still waiting for ABS like they were back when I created this thread, but some people may have been willing to pay that price difference to have had it "now" rather than waiting. Also, it's only available in green SE bikes, though it would probably make more sense to buy/install/paint fairings on an ABS bike than install ABS on a non-ABS bike (again, ignoring the possibility of cheap crashed parts).

vanman69 · April 19th, 2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

I was curious to know if it could be adapted to the 250J (I prefer the 250J's styling). It could be sourced from a crashed 300B for all I care.

I assume people aren't still waiting for ABS like they were back when I created this thread, but some people may have been willing to pay that price difference to have had it "now" rather than waiting. Also, it's only available in green SE bikes, though it would probably make more sense to buy/install/paint fairings on an ABS bike than install ABS on a non-ABS bike (again, ignoring the possibility of cheap crashed parts).

it could be adapted quite easily, i think the biggest problem would be the wiring.

DaBlue1 · April 20th, 2013, 06:49 AM

I had looked at adapting the CBR250R ABS to the Ninja 250 in 2011.
Their (Kawasaki & Honda) systems are similar. Other than all the parts the problem was going to be how to mount and integrate it to the Ninja 250.

I thought at one time, if it was possible to do, the Thailand modders would have done it. I'm still waiting.

CZroe · April 20th, 2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBlue1

I had looked at adapting the CBR250R ABS to the Ninja 250 in 2011.
Their (Kawasaki & Honda) systems are similar. Other than all the parts the problem was going to be how to mount and integrate it to the Ninja 250.

I thought at one time, if it was possible to do, the Thailand modders would have done it. I'm still waiting.

Well, this thread was made before we could have any expectations about Indonesian ABS conversions too.

As for how it would mount, well, the entire forks can swap. The only difference I see is the fender mounting points on the lower fork halves. Because bent fork tubes are so common, you can expect the lower halves to be extremely cheap. On the 250J, forks that go for $300 a pair when straight are usually $30 each when bent, so the lower halves are only a portion of even that. That's assuming that they are even needed, considering that the caliper on the non-ABS is the same (painted black), the ABS hardware may bolt right up to existing forks.

October 26th, 2012, 11:26 AM	#1
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Can Ninja 300 ABS system from EX300B be ordered/installed on non-ABS EX300A? EX250J? I see a lot of people waiting for ABS and I wondered if they could "buy now, upgrade later" without having to upgrade the entire bike. That also got me wondering "how much?" and "will it fit the 250?". So, how much is this likely to cost and can it be made to fit the 250?

October 26th, 2012, 11:34 AM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	minimum would need the front encoder wheel, pickup, electronics package, and the brake release solenoid. that alone is probably going to cost you around $1000 to order oem parts and who knows if the abs electronics is integrated with the ignition system... and who knows if the ignition system is compatible. i think you should buy the parts and find out __________________________________________________

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April 19th, 2013, 04:21 AM	#4
Dark Simple kind of man Name: Ryan Location: Stuttgart, Germany Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 133	Not worth it and you don't need it.

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tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Buying new, the ABS version is $500 more than the non-ABS SE. If its about $1000 to add on ABS to a non-ABS bike like alex.s says, definitely better to just get the ABS bike itself.

April 20th, 2013, 06:49 AM	#8
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I had looked at adapting the CBR250R ABS to the Ninja 250 in 2011. Their (Kawasaki & Honda) systems are similar. Other than all the parts the problem was going to be how to mount and integrate it to the Ninja 250. I thought at one time, if it was possible to do, the Thailand modders would have done it. I'm still waiting.