OMG!!!!! WTH!!!!!

Skullz · July 7th, 2014, 11:20 AM

I'm totally blown away!
I was 100% certain i was going to be riding the buell blast for my MSF class this week only to find out 2/3 of the way through the day that we would be riding the new harley street 500's, omg they actually look better in person than on a screen or in print. We only had class today and will get a chance to actually do the riding with them tomorrow and kinda stoked to try one out, and this will be the third class to ride these since getting them.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...html#!overview

Alex · July 7th, 2014, 11:36 AM

Nice! Interested in your review.

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 11:52 AM

Figures that they would eventually replace the fleet. I guess that was a big reason for them to introduce this model.

LittleRedNinjette · July 7th, 2014, 11:55 AM

Damn... I thought it was cool that the got a Grom for the beginner classes by me.

verboten1 · July 7th, 2014, 12:28 PM

You're actually taking the harley class, or is it the state subsidized MSF?

capt_bugaloo · July 7th, 2014, 12:31 PM

Will they have the goofy-looking orange crash bars on them?

nickjpass · July 7th, 2014, 12:43 PM

I liked the tu250 I rode ...felt slower than my 140 lol

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

You're actually taking the harley class, or is it the state subsidized MSF?

H-D's Rider'sEdge is an MSF BRC class and is certified in the states that recognize MSF BRC. Most states don't actually *subsidize* MSF BRC and some force you to take their own non-MSF state training program. I paid $280 for the weekday classes but it was over $300 for the weekend class.

In 2008 I took my H-D Rider'sEdge class on a Buell Blast then took the MSF BRC completion card and documents I received to the Georgia Department of Driver Services (formerly known as the GA DMV) to get my license. I did not have to re-test.

verboten1 · July 7th, 2014, 01:01 PM

Yep, but the state subsidized class is $25 and they are usually full here in mi.

And they had **** bikes last time I took it here in our town, that's why I asked

Skullz and I are in the same town.

Brother Michigan · July 7th, 2014, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

H-D's Rider'sEdge is an MSF BRC class and is certified in the states that recognize MSF BRC. Most states don't actually *subsidize* MSF BRC and some force you to take their own non-MSF state training program. I paid $280 for the weekday classes but it was over $300 for the weekend class.

In 2008 I took my H-D Rider'sEdge class on a Buell Blast then took the MSF BRC completion card and documents I received to the Georgia Department of Driver Services (formerly known as the GA DMV) to get my license. I did not have to re-test.

That cost is what finally got me to change my license over to Kentucky; it's ridiculous down there. I only paid $75 for an MSF course up here (though I did have to go to the DMV twice to get my license, once for a written test and once again a month later to get my actual license rather than just my permit.)

Skullz · July 7th, 2014, 02:24 PM

capt_bugaloo - Yes they have the funky orange nerf bars on them.

verboten1 - I am going to biker bob's class at the harley dealership and the class is $200 for my 5 hour per day, 5 day course which is actually pretty cheap considering your riding on their bikes and gas.

Granted i don't get to take it out on the road, i still get to ride and get a feel for what it is like and how it feels.

LittleRedNinjette - I am so glad they don't have the grom here cause i think i'd get kicked out of class for having some serious fun with that thing. lol

One of the female classmates has a royal enfield. O_o

LNasty · July 7th, 2014, 02:55 PM

good lord, Buell's and Harley's?!?! My MSF used rebel 250's and nighthawk 250's that looked like they had just been salvaged from a junk yard. I should be the one saying WTH!!!!!!

JohnnyBravo · July 7th, 2014, 07:15 PM

Cruise on

c-dog · July 7th, 2014, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

I liked the tu250 I rode ...felt slower than my 140 lol

Me too. Was a nice bike to take the course on. I sometimes think about getting one for nostalgia. Cool little bike. They have fuel injection now too.

csmith12 · July 7th, 2014, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

That cost is what finally got me to change my license over to Kentucky; it's ridiculous down there. I only paid $75 for an MSF course up here (though I did have to go to the DMV twice to get my license, once for a written test and once again a month later to get my actual license rather than just my permit.)

We gotta get together for a ride sometime this season yo!

verboten1 · July 7th, 2014, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullz

verboten1 - I am going to biker bob's class at the harley dealership and the class is $200 for my 5 hour per day, 5 day course which is actually pretty cheap considering your riding on their bikes and gas.

Granted i don't get to take it out on the road, i still get to ride and get a feel for what it is like and how it feels.

One of the female classmates has a royal enfield. O_o

Cool, glad you are going for the training!

Does she by chance have short blonde hair? Lol

Skullz · July 7th, 2014, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

Does she by chance have short blonde hair? Lol

Yes she does. lol

csmith12 · July 7th, 2014, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

good lord, Buell's and Harley's?!?! My MSF used rebel 250's and nighthawk 250's that looked like they had just been salvaged from a junk yard. I should be the one saying WTH!!!!!!

Try not to hate on the msf bikes too much. They make the ultimate sacrifice to help new riders into the world of 2 wheels on the open road.

Bob2010 · July 7th, 2014, 08:08 PM

Yeah me too. We had one 06 ninja250. The rest where single cylinder little cruiser style bikes.

Brother Michigan · July 7th, 2014, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

good lord, Buell's and Harley's?!?! My MSF used rebel 250's and nighthawk 250's that looked like they had just been salvaged from a junk yard. I should be the one saying WTH!!!!!!

We had a single Rebel 250 in my class; the rest of us got stuck on 125cc Kawi Eliminators! I actually still kind of want one to ride around town, though

verboten1 · July 7th, 2014, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullz

Yes she does. lol

If the bike is green, I'm betting it's Lisa!

capt_bugaloo · July 7th, 2014, 08:23 PM

The course I took used a bunch of little black Yamaha Virago 250s.

LNasty · July 7th, 2014, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Try not to hate on the msf bikes too much. They make the ultimate sacrifice to help new riders into the world of 2 wheels on the open road.

Not hating too much, just wondering what rich ass community out there used buell and brand new harley's? (Can you hear the jealousy? ) and a 500 on top of that. Never heard of a msf class using anything bigger than a 250

csmith12 · July 7th, 2014, 09:13 PM

Jealousy aye, I hear that...

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

Not hating too much, just wondering what rich ass community out there used buell and brand new harley's? (Can you hear the jealousy? ) and a 500 on top of that. Never heard of a msf class using anything bigger than a 250

The Buell Blast was made specifically as a beginner's bike. H-D commissioned it against Erik Buell's wishes. It was part of why they bought Buell, as I understand. It has no more HP than our Ninjas. They had none of the cool Buell tech, so they were unpopular even with Buell.

Cruiser gauges, standard styling, higher price, uncomfortable commuter (thumper w/ no windscreen) = unpopular

In short, they weren't anything to be jealous of!

verboten1 · July 8th, 2014, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

Not hating too much, just wondering what rich ass community out there used buell and brand new harley's? (Can you hear the jealousy? ) and a 500 on top of that. Never heard of a msf class using anything bigger than a 250

It's an MSF class, but HD's Version, not the state subsidized class with the beaters...that I had a blast on!

LNasty · July 8th, 2014, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verboten1

It's an MSF class, but HD's Version, not the state subsidized class with the beaters...that I had a blast on!

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.......... Does it cost a lot more?

Skullz · July 8th, 2014, 10:37 AM

It is costing me $200 for a 5 day course, which isn't so bad considering they're providing you with something to ride and practice on, so if you lay it down your nice bike isn't dinged.

verboten1 - It was not lisa but she knew who you were talking about though.

Well the bikes they have are really nice and stable with the exception to where the foot controls are for someone like me riding the ninja where everything is right below you, your feet are more in front and take a bit to get used to, but i really like this motorcycle. Got comfortable enough to drag the pegs on one exercise weaving through the cones and realised i better not lean this over as much as i do the ninja. lol

DaBlue1 · July 8th, 2014, 10:46 AM

How cute. A 'lil Hoglette.

Skullz · July 11th, 2014, 11:36 AM

Ok, well i passed the MSF course and now licensed. w00t

Now about the bike.
It's a good training bike for beginners but has a really nasty drawback for those with short inseams, it is way to wide at the bottom when you have to duck walk the bike around for the first few exercises and your legs constantly hit the foot pegs.
Another nasty drawback is the really wide handle bars they have, but i'm certain it is meant for people who have never ridden a bike before to have as much leverage as possible for control, but control can come at a cost of too much extension of your arms trying to get it to maneuver around the course through the figure 8 and such.
The biggest thing that seems to hamper people are the lower crash bars on the bottom of the bike which will drag on the ground if you lean too much, and that can cause you to not want to lean as much as you would otherwise do during the more demanding exercises requiring you to lean while applying power. The last evaluation is where i got points for because i lifted off the power from fear of dragging the bars.

This thing can generate some damn heat!

All in all it is a good bike to ride around on and pretty comfortable to sit on but as i said it is really wide at the bottom, it handles really well and power is smooth and easy to apply without feeling like it is an on/off switch. I have no other reference to use as a comparison for with the bike other than my ninja which is completely different in many respects, and i think it is a good bike overall.

I am no expert and i suck at giving reviews, but it was an incredibly fun time taking the class and meeting others with the same interest.

csmith12 · July 11th, 2014, 11:38 AM

Gratz! And yep... sounds like a cruiser to me.

akima · July 11th, 2014, 12:54 PM

Wow - cheap to get trained and certified over there. It cost me £666 (Over $1100) to get trained and get a license over here. It was a 5 day course. Gear, bike and petrol included. I had to do 3 practical tests and 2 computer based tests to get my license.

Yes: the total cost really did come to 666 pounds

nickjpass · July 11th, 2014, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Wow - cheap to get trained and certified over there. It cost me £666 (Over $1100) to get trained and get a license over here. It was a 5 day course. Gear, bike and petrol included. I had to do 3 practical tests and 2 computer based tests to get my license.

Yes: the total cost really did come to 666 pounds

I could have had my license for forty dollars.

20 for my permit and 20 for my license.

I went with MSF too, which was 275.

Other states have free MSF.

JohnnyBravo · July 12th, 2014, 11:27 PM

@nickjpass lemm ride ya 6

nickjpass · July 13th, 2014, 01:36 AM

@JohnnyBravo let me ride your 300 and you have a deal

JohnnyBravo · July 13th, 2014, 03:15 AM

Anytime

July 7th, 2014, 11:20 AM	#1
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Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	capt_bugaloo - Yes they have the funky orange nerf bars on them. verboten1 - I am going to biker bob's class at the harley dealership and the class is $200 for my 5 hour per day, 5 day course which is actually pretty cheap considering your riding on their bikes and gas. Granted i don't get to take it out on the road, i still get to ride and get a feel for what it is like and how it feels. LittleRedNinjette - I am so glad they don't have the grom here cause i think i'd get kicked out of class for having some serious fun with that thing. lol One of the female classmates has a royal enfield. O_o

July 7th, 2014, 02:55 PM	#12
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	good lord, Buell's and Harley's?!?! My MSF used rebel 250's and nighthawk 250's that looked like they had just been salvaged from a junk yard. I should be the one saying WTH!!!!!!
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Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	It is costing me $200 for a 5 day course, which isn't so bad considering they're providing you with something to ride and practice on, so if you lay it down your nice bike isn't dinged. verboten1 - It was not lisa but she knew who you were talking about though. Well the bikes they have are really nice and stable with the exception to where the foot controls are for someone like me riding the ninja where everything is right below you, your feet are more in front and take a bit to get used to, but i really like this motorcycle. Got comfortable enough to drag the pegs on one exercise weaving through the cones and realised i better not lean this over as much as i do the ninja. lol

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Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	Ok, well i passed the MSF course and now licensed. w00t Now about the bike. It's a good training bike for beginners but has a really nasty drawback for those with short inseams, it is way to wide at the bottom when you have to duck walk the bike around for the first few exercises and your legs constantly hit the foot pegs. Another nasty drawback is the really wide handle bars they have, but i'm certain it is meant for people who have never ridden a bike before to have as much leverage as possible for control, but control can come at a cost of too much extension of your arms trying to get it to maneuver around the course through the figure 8 and such. The biggest thing that seems to hamper people are the lower crash bars on the bottom of the bike which will drag on the ground if you lean too much, and that can cause you to not want to lean as much as you would otherwise do during the more demanding exercises requiring you to lean while applying power. The last evaluation is where i got points for because i lifted off the power from fear of dragging the bars. This thing can generate some damn heat! All in all it is a good bike to ride around on and pretty comfortable to sit on but as i said it is really wide at the bottom, it handles really well and power is smooth and easy to apply without feeling like it is an on/off switch. I have no other reference to use as a comparison for with the bike other than my ninja which is completely different in many respects, and i think it is a good bike overall. I am no expert and i suck at giving reviews, but it was an incredibly fun time taking the class and meeting others with the same interest.
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akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Wow - cheap to get trained and certified over there. It cost me £666 (Over $1100) to get trained and get a license over here. It was a 5 day course. Gear, bike and petrol included. I had to do 3 practical tests and 2 computer based tests to get my license. Yes: the total cost really did come to 666 pounds

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