Is this a scam?

mSoueiD · July 19th, 2010, 03:14 PM

http://cnj.craigslist.org/for/1801622425.html

looking through craigslist and i found this bike for sale. I talked to the owner to see if the bike was still for sale and this is the response i received:

"Hello

Thanks for being interested in buying my bike ,I will start my email by telling you that I'm currently out of country so pick up isn't an option , It's in excellent condition and runs like perfect, It has never been involved in any kind off accident, and it has got no mechanical problems, clean title and it was always garaged .
Right now I'm in the United Kingdom,just arrived here 3 days ago . Before i left I found a buyer and i had everything arranged.I payed for the shipping and sent it to him .But yesterday the buyer that i had asked me to wait another 4 weeks because his loan wasn't approved , i just canceled the deal ..I can't wait this long as I'm in the UK for 3 days now and i really need the money, I am in the moving process , changing the work place and everything ...A major issue is that if you want to buy my bike you really need to have the money ready for it.
The bike and its documents are in the DAS auto shipping warehouse waiting to be delivered to the next buyer.The transaction will be made only through eBay. eBay will be the third party that will hold the money till you will receive and inspect the bike .If the bike meets your expectations and you want to keep it you will have to tell them to release me the payment details so I can get paid. If you are interested in this purchase please reply me with your full name and shipping address so ebay can contact you regarding the payment and shipping process.
Let me know your thoughts,
P.S : If you need more info or pictures,just ask."

i've never dealt with a vehicle sale via eBay let alone a person overseas, so any insight would be helpful!

2WheelGuy · July 19th, 2010, 03:17 PM

YES, this is a standard Craigslist scam.

Guinss · July 19th, 2010, 03:21 PM

Got a bad feeling about this. Sounds like a standard scam setup.

bob706 · July 19th, 2010, 03:26 PM

$2509???? I'll take three of 'em

Hadyn · July 19th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Hah, I got almost the EXACT same response to a craigslist posting, except it was for renting an apartment. Definitely a scam.

Alex · July 19th, 2010, 04:12 PM

chance of scam = 100.00%

CC Cowboy · July 19th, 2010, 04:15 PM

It is't a scam. Send me the money and I'll not only make sure you get the bike but I'll make sure the owner gets the money ( minus my commission of course).

road_rascal · July 19th, 2010, 06:30 PM

Yup- lots of 2-3 year old bikes on the Mlps craigslist going for dirt cheap. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I end up flagging them.

caliente103 · July 19th, 2010, 08:52 PM

this is a scam
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fenwaynomar45 · July 19th, 2010, 08:58 PM

ya its a scam i found this article about it online before... http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/veh...-program-scam/

adouglas · July 19th, 2010, 09:05 PM

This ad comes with our famous No Money Back Guarantee.

Send us your money. We'll keep the item and sell it to somebody else.

adri99an · July 19th, 2010, 09:34 PM

Ask him if you could use a coupon.....

miks · July 19th, 2010, 09:56 PM

Anything where the owner is overseas is most likely a scam.

Xerxi · July 19th, 2010, 10:21 PM

Yes. It is a scam. ANYTHING less than seeing the bike in person before you buy it is a scam.

Good luck on finding a real bike

CC Cowboy · July 20th, 2010, 07:43 AM

Just tell the owner that they can send you the bike and you will gladly pay them upon receiving the bike. This puts the trust on them instead of you.

mSoueiD · July 20th, 2010, 07:58 AM

Thanks for all the responses everyone! i knew in the back of my mind that it was a scam but the price was unbelievable... literally.

. Good thing i didn't act on impulse

adri99an · July 20th, 2010, 08:27 AM

Send him some monopoly money and when you get the actual bike- he gets the actual money?

00NissanNinja · July 20th, 2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Just tell the owner that they can send you the bike and you will gladly pay them upon receiving the bike. This puts the trust on them instead of you.

Yeah if they really want to sell that bike that bad, tell them to send it to you and then they will receive payment and not the other way around. Other than that probably is a scam

Blackwidow · July 20th, 2010, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mSoueiD

http://cnj.craigslist.org/for/1801622425.html

"......The transaction will be made only through eBay. eBay will be the third party that will hold the money till you will receive and inspect the bike .If the bike meets your expectations and you want to keep it you will have to tell them to release me the payment details so I can get paid. If you are interested in this purchase please reply me with your full name and shipping address so ebay can contact you regarding the payment and shipping process.

1. can ebay hold payment while you're inspecting the motorcycle?

I only ask because i just had a friend that moved to the UK and he was doing the same thing with his car from UK. so thats why I'm giving this dude benefit of the doubt, otherwise, i'd normally say...SCAM.

kamikaze · July 20th, 2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwidow

1. can ebay hold payment while you're inspecting the motorcycle?

I only ask because i just had a friend that moved to the UK and he was doing the same thing with his car from UK. so thats why I'm giving this dude benefit of the doubt, otherwise, i'd normally say...SCAM.

you can use Escrow services, but they cost extra. basically you send the money to the escrow service, and when they get it, the seller ships. once you check it out and it's to your satisfaction, they release the money. if you don't like what you got you send it back and the escrow service sends you your money back. just make sure you use a reputable one if you do as there's just as many fake escrow services as there are scammers. squaretrade is pretty well known.

pooter · July 20th, 2010, 11:20 AM

Scam... even with escrow services you need to be extremely careful since they can easily send you to a fake one or create a phishing one just to get you to send the money.

I'd just lie to the guy and be like.. oh what a coincidence, I have a friend in UK in your area, can he come by and check out the bike? They typically will stop responding to you at that point.

tinng321 · July 21st, 2010, 08:55 AM

Everytime I see something like this I play along.
Email and show my interest. Show them how excited I am about getting the best deal then toward the end I usually tell them to go get a life or go f themselves.
Notice how they always used a female name in their email and the email you get from ebay is not from @ebay.com.

headshrink · July 21st, 2010, 01:17 PM

I thought craigslist only has scam adds. Isn't is to classifieds: as The Onion is to news?

July 19th, 2010, 03:14 PM	#1
mSoueiD ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Woodbridge Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet; looking to get a 250r Posts: 22	Is this a scam? http://cnj.craigslist.org/for/1801622425.html looking through craigslist and i found this bike for sale. I talked to the owner to see if the bike was still for sale and this is the response i received: "Hello Thanks for being interested in buying my bike ,I will start my email by telling you that I'm currently out of country so pick up isn't an option , It's in excellent condition and runs like perfect, It has never been involved in any kind off accident, and it has got no mechanical problems, clean title and it was always garaged . Right now I'm in the United Kingdom,just arrived here 3 days ago . Before i left I found a buyer and i had everything arranged.I payed for the shipping and sent it to him .But yesterday the buyer that i had asked me to wait another 4 weeks because his loan wasn't approved , i just canceled the deal ..I can't wait this long as I'm in the UK for 3 days now and i really need the money, I am in the moving process , changing the work place and everything ...A major issue is that if you want to buy my bike you really need to have the money ready for it. The bike and its documents are in the DAS auto shipping warehouse waiting to be delivered to the next buyer.The transaction will be made only through eBay. eBay will be the third party that will hold the money till you will receive and inspect the bike .If the bike meets your expectations and you want to keep it you will have to tell them to release me the payment details so I can get paid. If you are interested in this purchase please reply me with your full name and shipping address so ebay can contact you regarding the payment and shipping process. Let me know your thoughts, P.S : If you need more info or pictures,just ask." i've never dealt with a vehicle sale via eBay let alone a person overseas, so any insight would be helpful!

July 19th, 2010, 03:17 PM	#2
2WheelGuy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Craig Location: Silicon Valley, CA USA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '98 EX250, '02 EX250, '08 250r, '03 SV650, '98 GSXR750 '03 Hayabusa, '87 YSR50, '84 ZX900, +MORE Posts: A lot.	YES, this is a standard Craigslist scam. __________________________________________________ CraigHarris.org Pacific Track Time CraigsWeb See you at 2014 MotoGP Laguna Seca! We'll be camping on Fox Hill. AFM #278

July 19th, 2010, 04:12 PM	#6
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July 19th, 2010, 04:15 PM	#7
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	It is't a scam. Send me the money and I'll not only make sure you get the bike but I'll make sure the owner gets the money ( minus my commission of course). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

July 19th, 2010, 09:56 PM	#13
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Anything where the owner is overseas is most likely a scam. __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

July 19th, 2010, 03:21 PM	#3
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	Got a bad feeling about this. Sounds like a standard scam setup.

July 19th, 2010, 03:26 PM	#4
bob706 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Mary Esther, FL Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.	$2509???? I'll take three of 'em

July 19th, 2010, 03:32 PM	#5
Hadyn ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Fairfax, VA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '06 Yellow 250r Posts: 211	Hah, I got almost the EXACT same response to a craigslist posting, except it was for renting an apartment. Definitely a scam.

July 19th, 2010, 06:30 PM	#8
road_rascal ninjette.org member Name: ___ Location: ___ Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): ___ Posts: 160	Yup- lots of 2-3 year old bikes on the Mlps craigslist going for dirt cheap. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I end up flagging them.

July 19th, 2010, 08:52 PM	#9
caliente103 ninjette.org member Name: HECTOR Location: Bronx NY Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 08 250r Posts: 218	this is a scam Posted via Mobile Device

July 19th, 2010, 08:58 PM	#10
fenwaynomar45 Greenman! Name: Jack Location: South NJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 109	ya its a scam i found this article about it online before... http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/veh...-program-scam/

July 19th, 2010, 09:05 PM	#11
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	This ad comes with our famous No Money Back Guarantee. Send us your money. We'll keep the item and sell it to somebody else.

July 19th, 2010, 09:34 PM	#12
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Ask him if you could use a coupon.....

July 19th, 2010, 10:21 PM	#14
Xerxi ninjette.org member Name: Xerxi Location: san jose Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 2009 ninja 250 Posts: 21	Yes. It is a scam. ANYTHING less than seeing the bike in person before you buy it is a scam. Good luck on finding a real bike

July 20th, 2010, 07:43 AM	#15
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Just tell the owner that they can send you the bike and you will gladly pay them upon receiving the bike. This puts the trust on them instead of you. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

July 20th, 2010, 07:58 AM	#16
mSoueiD ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Woodbridge Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet; looking to get a 250r Posts: 22	Thanks for all the responses everyone! i knew in the back of my mind that it was a scam but the price was unbelievable... literally. . Good thing i didn't act on impulse

July 20th, 2010, 08:27 AM	#17
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Send him some monopoly money and when you get the actual bike- he gets the actual money?

July 20th, 2010, 11:20 AM	#21
pooter ninjette.org member Name: Peter Location: San Francisco Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 67	Scam... even with escrow services you need to be extremely careful since they can easily send you to a fake one or create a phishing one just to get you to send the money. I'd just lie to the guy and be like.. oh what a coincidence, I have a friend in UK in your area, can he come by and check out the bike? They typically will stop responding to you at that point.

July 21st, 2010, 08:55 AM	#22
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	Everytime I see something like this I play along. Email and show my interest. Show them how excited I am about getting the best deal then toward the end I usually tell them to go get a life or go f themselves. Notice how they always used a female name in their email and the email you get from ebay is not from @ebay.com.

July 21st, 2010, 01:17 PM	#23
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I thought craigslist only has scam adds. Isn't is to classifieds: as The Onion is to news?

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