Augmented Reality Helmets?

kdogg2077 · April 11th, 2016, 07:09 AM

So I came across this Skully augmented reality helmet today. The big feature is a built in rear camera and gps directions on the heads up display.

https://www.skully.com/

I think this is too much information begin crammed in your face while riding. The feed from the rear camera distracts attention from what is in front of you. The mind can't focus on both at once. I guess it would be nice to check for cops

I just think a hud should be simple bits of info that can be quickly checked, not a live camera feed. That's just information overload.

What's the ninjette consensus on this?

DEFY · April 11th, 2016, 07:12 AM

Topic that has been discussed before, I'm not sure if skully ever did deliver their product.

kdogg2077 · April 11th, 2016, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DEFY

Topic that has been discussed before, I'm not sure if skully ever did deliver their product.

I think it's shipping now or will be soon. They have it for sale for $1500.

VaFish · April 11th, 2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DEFY

Topic that has been discussed before, I'm not sure if skully ever did deliver their product.

They are supposed to be shipping soon, yeah and they've been saying that for about a year and a half. I have a co-worker that put the full $1,500 down almost 2 years ago and still no helmet.

RacinNinja · April 11th, 2016, 07:17 AM

No thanks. Anything that will take your attention away from the road or traffic is a no-go for me.

adouglas · April 11th, 2016, 07:18 AM

I think your answer will be age-related.

I'm old enough to really appreciate simplicity. I don't need all that crap. Or an intercom. Or the ability to talk on my friggin' telephone while riding. Or the constant hand-holding of a GPS (though I will use one when warranted).

So... nifty idea. Not interested, thanks.

CaliGrrl · April 11th, 2016, 09:09 AM

I don't think I'd like a constant camera feed. I could see a potential use for a GPS but I don't think I need it in my face.

No need for connection to my phone. I don't even want to have music playing, though I like my intercom. Count me in the group that wants simplicity!

HoneyBadgerRy · April 11th, 2016, 09:22 AM

I imagine the commuter guys would be interested, but I am not at all. I am interested in @Ghost opinion.

toEleven · April 11th, 2016, 10:15 AM

I wouldn't spend $1500 on one, but conceptually I like HUDs. Perhaps it has something to do with spending my youth playing flight sims and racing games, all of which have a HUD or equivalent in the first person view (the only way to play, obviously). Every vehicle I've driven and plane I've flown since then has, tragically, been sans HUD.....but the concept still seems normal and easy to me.

With regard to it being a distraction, I'm of the opinion that there is a large supply of unimportant information already hitting your retinas while riding, and everyone here (hopefully) is adept at tuning out the parts that don't matter. I don't see it being any worse to have a display available by eye movement (HUD) rather than head movement (gauge cluster). The specific implementation on Skully's site isn't very well designed, but the HUD concept is sound. Motorcycles aren't any harder to ride than aircraft are to fly, and pilots seem to get by just fine despite the availability of information.

allanoue · April 11th, 2016, 10:20 AM

I dropped $1,399 Aug'14 with a "goal" for delivery in May'15.

May'15 they delayed it to Dec'15. Nov'15 they delayed it to Mar'16, but I was offered to applying for beta testing, I did not take it.

They told me a couple of weeks ago I can expect to get mine in June.

getting closer

I like knowing what is behind me. I love my reevu helmet but it does take a second to refocus on the reflection in the helmet. It is my understanding that is not an issue for skully. Add photochromic shield and noise cancellation

. Everything else it has...whatever.

They did send me a nice t-shirt and hat for Christmas and I am in a drawing for a Decoti.

kdogg2077 · April 11th, 2016, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

I dropped $1,399 Aug'14 with a "goal" for delivery in May'15.

May'15 they delayed it to Dec'15. Nov'15 they delayed it to Mar'16, but I was offered to applying for beta testing, I did not take it.

They told me a couple of weeks ago I can expect to get mine in June.

getting closer

I like knowing what is behind me. I love my reevu helmet but it does take a second to refocus on the reflection in the helmet. It is my understanding that is not an issue for skully. Add photochromic shield and noise cancellation

. Everything else it has...whatever.

They did send me a nice t-shirt and hat for Christmas and I am in a drawing for a Decoti.

I'd be flipping out if I put $1500 on something and got left waiting that long.

VaFish · April 11th, 2016, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

I'd be flipping out if I put $1500 on something and got left waiting that long.

Google "Ellio"

allanoue · April 11th, 2016, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

I'd be flipping out if I put $1500 on something and got left waiting that long.

If it was already in production I would also. When I bought in, it was just a concept with a couple of prototypes. I get it.

$1399 :-p

Panda · April 11th, 2016, 12:32 PM

From a UX perspective it seems odd to have the directions on top of the image of the rear facing camera.

But it looks cool.

The price point is high though.

kdogg2077 · April 11th, 2016, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

If it was already in production I would also. When I bought in, it was just a concept with a couple of prototypes. I get it.

Yeah when you put money down on something like that you know what you're getting into.

adouglas · April 11th, 2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

I like knowing what is behind me.

First rule of Italian driving....

Link to original page on YouTube.

SLOWn60 · April 11th, 2016, 01:13 PM

With modern day advancements of 3D Hud & silicone moulding; I'm expecting a soon to be released Woody Allen Orgasmatron helmet!

....oh sorry....you're talking about motorcycle helmets.

Mirrors and a bobble head give me all the data I need from behind.

On the bike: the sound of the wind and the music of my engine (through ear plugs). I admit to the occasional use of a Sena for road trips with a small group or fellow rider. Certainly NOT my phone! I'm trying to get away!

CaliGrrl · April 11th, 2016, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

On the bike: the sound of the wind and the music of my engine (through ear plugs). I admit to the occasional use of a Sena for road trips with a small group or fellow rider. Certainly NOT my phone! I'm trying to get away!

Yeah, I like to be able to talk to my husband, who is my usual ride partner. Other than that, though, I have no need of my phone on the bike. Someone tried to tell me that it's ok to hook the phone in, that I don't have to answer it but that's missing the point.

I don't want to know about it ringing at all while I'm riding. Leave me a message, I'll call you back.

VaFish · April 11th, 2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliGrrl

Yeah, I like to be able to talk to my husband, who is my usual ride partner. Other than that, though, I have no need of my phone on the bike. Someone tried to tell me that it's ok to hook the phone in, that I don't have to answer it but that's missing the point.

I don't want to know about it ringing at all while I'm riding. Leave me a message, I'll call you back.

I've talked on my phone using my Sena headset while riding in DC area traffic. Nice to be able to do something while sitting in traffic.

CaliGrrl · April 11th, 2016, 08:51 PM

Sure, people do talk on their phones. Just not something I want to do. Not on my bike, anyway.

April 11th, 2016, 07:09 AM	#1
kdogg2077 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: Ebensburg, PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2015 Yamaha FZ07, Ninja 250r 2012 Limited Edition (Sold) Posts: 529	Augmented Reality Helmets? So I came across this Skully augmented reality helmet today. The big feature is a built in rear camera and gps directions on the heads up display. https://www.skully.com/ I think this is too much information begin crammed in your face while riding. The feed from the rear camera distracts attention from what is in front of you. The mind can't focus on both at once. I guess it would be nice to check for cops I just think a hud should be simple bits of info that can be quickly checked, not a live camera feed. That's just information overload. What's the ninjette consensus on this? __________________________________________________ "Take it easy driving. The life you might save might be mine."

April 11th, 2016, 07:12 AM	#2
DEFY ᗧ•••ᗣ•ᗣᗣ•••ᗣ Name: Nick Location: NY Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R and 2014 Triumph 675R Posts: A lot.	Topic that has been discussed before, I'm not sure if skully ever did deliver their product. __________________________________________________ Spoiler for topic: It might just be the [you] tag

April 11th, 2016, 07:17 AM	#5
RacinNinja Vintage Screwball Name: B Location: Washington Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250, 2008 Ninja 250, 2019 KTM 1290SDR, 2017 FZ10 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '16	No thanks. Anything that will take your attention away from the road or traffic is a no-go for me. __________________________________________________ Goin' fast on slow bikes!

April 11th, 2016, 07:18 AM	#6
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	I think your answer will be age-related. I'm old enough to really appreciate simplicity. I don't need all that crap. Or an intercom. Or the ability to talk on my friggin' telephone while riding. Or the constant hand-holding of a GPS (though I will use one when warranted). So... nifty idea. Not interested, thanks. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

April 11th, 2016, 09:22 AM	#8
HoneyBadgerRy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Beaufort SC Join Date: Aug 2015 Motorcycle(s): 05 Ninja 250, 04 KTM 625 SMC, 01 Xc250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	I imagine the commuter guys would be interested, but I am not at all. I am interested in @Ghost opinion. __________________________________________________ Because Unregistered sucks at riding.

April 11th, 2016, 09:09 AM	#7
CaliGrrl ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kerry Location: Ventura, CA Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '18, Apr '17, Apr '16	I don't think I'd like a constant camera feed. I could see a potential use for a GPS but I don't think I need it in my face. No need for connection to my phone. I don't even want to have music playing, though I like my intercom. Count me in the group that wants simplicity!

April 11th, 2016, 10:15 AM	#9
toEleven Slower than you. Name: toEleven Location: NoVA Join Date: Oct 2015 Motorcycle(s): CBR600RR, CB750, EX300 (半蔵) Posts: 667 MOTM - May '16	I wouldn't spend $1500 on one, but conceptually I like HUDs. Perhaps it has something to do with spending my youth playing flight sims and racing games, all of which have a HUD or equivalent in the first person view (the only way to play, obviously). Every vehicle I've driven and plane I've flown since then has, tragically, been sans HUD.....but the concept still seems normal and easy to me. With regard to it being a distraction, I'm of the opinion that there is a large supply of unimportant information already hitting your retinas while riding, and everyone here (hopefully) is adept at tuning out the parts that don't matter. I don't see it being any worse to have a display available by eye movement (HUD) rather than head movement (gauge cluster). The specific implementation on Skully's site isn't very well designed, but the HUD concept is sound. Motorcycles aren't any harder to ride than aircraft are to fly, and pilots seem to get by just fine despite the availability of information. __________________________________________________ DISCLAIMERv1.0: There may be more info on the topic than this forum post. Conduct your own research. If another thread is linked or quoted, go read it yourself.

April 11th, 2016, 10:20 AM	#10
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	I dropped $1,399 Aug'14 with a "goal" for delivery in May'15. May'15 they delayed it to Dec'15. Nov'15 they delayed it to Mar'16, but I was offered to applying for beta testing, I did not take it. They told me a couple of weeks ago I can expect to get mine in June. getting closer I like knowing what is behind me. I love my reevu helmet but it does take a second to refocus on the reflection in the helmet. It is my understanding that is not an issue for skully. Add photochromic shield and noise cancellation. Everything else it has...whatever. They did send me a nice t-shirt and hat for Christmas and I am in a drawing for a Decoti. __________________________________________________ Keep calm and ride on -Motofool Never quit on a rainy day -ally99

April 11th, 2016, 12:32 PM	#14
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	From a UX perspective it seems odd to have the directions on top of the image of the rear facing camera. But it looks cool. The price point is high though.

April 11th, 2016, 01:13 PM	#17
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	With modern day advancements of 3D Hud & silicone moulding; I'm expecting a soon to be released Woody Allen Orgasmatron helmet! ....oh sorry....you're talking about motorcycle helmets. Mirrors and a bobble head give me all the data I need from behind. On the bike: the sound of the wind and the music of my engine (through ear plugs). I admit to the occasional use of a Sena for road trips with a small group or fellow rider. Certainly NOT my phone! I'm trying to get away! __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over

April 11th, 2016, 08:51 PM	#20
CaliGrrl ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kerry Location: Ventura, CA Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '18, Apr '17, Apr '16	Sure, people do talk on their phones. Just not something I want to do. Not on my bike, anyway.
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