So how many chickens do you need to sacrifice for warm weather?

ninjabadger · November 29th, 2009, 03:01 PM

My ninjette was dropped off yesterday and has now been added to our stable of two wheeled motor vehicles!

Shiny 2009 SE with less than 3k on the odometer. I'm slowly undoing the couple of little changes the previous owner made, like swapping the Two Brothers slip on for the factory exhaust and putting the reflectors back on. Just need to register and license it and we're off to the races! (figuratively speaking of course)

My wife would like me to add that she is the best wife ever.

zartan · November 29th, 2009, 03:28 PM

I think it is 6 chickens. ( I only have 5 dam'mit)

Congrats!!

Alex · November 29th, 2009, 03:47 PM

No chickens need to be harmed out here for warm weather. But they're awfully tasty, so perhaps I'll harm one or two anyway.

ninjabadger · November 29th, 2009, 04:02 PM

I grew up in Hawaii. kkim can attest to the joy of 365 days of cycling weather there but up here in the frozen tundra it gets a bit nippy after October.

I've been riding the scoot back and forth to campus for the last year so I'm pretty well geared up for cold weather, but it certainly takes some of the joy out of riding.

Greg_E · November 29th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Assuming that your wife rides the second scoot, maybe you can show her that she is the best wife ever by getting her a 250 too.

And no chickens need be harmed... Polar fleece or Primaloft works just as well.

addy126 · November 29th, 2009, 05:01 PM

Save a chicken! Move below the snow line... problem solved.

HKr1 · November 29th, 2009, 05:05 PM

Congrats on the new bike!

ninjabadger · November 29th, 2009, 05:22 PM

@Greg That might be in the cards some time in the future. She has expressed an interest in learning how to ride so the new bike will serve in that capacity until she feels comfortable enough to justify her own. It will definitely be a long term project if her comfort level with manual tranny cars is any indication. She is, as those in the Commonwealth might put it, a bit dodgy when it comes to shifting.

bdavison · November 29th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Only one chicken is required, but it must be cooked Thai style in honor of the Thailand workers that built our awesome 250's for us.

And since Thai tends to be spicy....it will warm you up so you wont notice the cooler weather.

Flow · November 29th, 2009, 07:14 PM

A realistic response: how many chickens does it take to get enough money by selling to move to the south?

lockie · November 29th, 2009, 08:11 PM

One good chicken deserves another no matter what the temperature. That's my story from Northern Canada and I'm sticking to it.
Local knowledge says it takes 20 porcupine and a moose to warm up a crowd.

No chickens were harmed in this post.

kkim · November 29th, 2009, 09:25 PM

Congrats on the new bike, Corey.

Odd that you're returning it back to stock when you're in a time that most are busy doing their winter upgrades.

Dunno how many chickens it would take for warm weather as the wild chickens on Kauai are a protected bird. We would never harm any of them.... honest.

ninjabrewer · November 29th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

wild chickens on Kauai are a protected bird.

Really, I didn't know that, are they protected throughout the islands?

Nice bike, even though it is green

. Glad to hear that you are now amongst the owners of the great ninjette.

nb

kkim · November 29th, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjabrewer

Really, I didn't know that, are they protected throughout the islands?

I think it's only on kauai... for some reason.

welcome2thedawn · November 30th, 2009, 02:14 AM

it does seem like it's getting cold way too fast this year...i learned the other day that if you start your bike and get sidetracked and leave it running for about a half hour it actually gives off a good amount of heat

Sailariel · November 30th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Love Thai Food. The hotter the better. If we were not caring for my Father-in-Law, we would be eating Asian food exclusively.

OldGuy · November 30th, 2009, 02:40 PM

The outside air temperature is directly proportional to the number of chickens sacrificed so you decide what temperature you would like to ride at.

This thread is sponsored by the Nebraska Beef Producers as a public service.

nate-bama · November 30th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Save a chicken...and kill a packer

Snake · November 30th, 2009, 04:51 PM

I may need some chicken soup at the end of the week. It is supposed to get down to 28 deg. BRRR.

subiegy2010 · November 30th, 2009, 08:09 PM

Congrats on the new bike! If you decide to sell that 2 Bros. exhaust, let me know. I'm in Milwaukee and if the price is right, I may be able to pick it up.

ninjabadger · November 30th, 2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subiegy2010

Congrats on the new bike! If you decide to sell that 2 Bros. exhaust, let me know. I'm in Milwaukee and if the price is right, I may be able to pick it up.

I'm not sure if I'm going to sell the exhaust yet. The previous owner slapped it on there without any jetting changes and I'm not sure how horrible that is for the engine. I would potentially keep it if I could be reasonably assured that I could run it with the stock jetting without F-ing anything up.

Anyway, even with the P1 silencer installed it's a little bit louder than I would prefer for learning, given that I'm going to invariably end up overrevving, and sustaining high rpms until I get all four appendages moving in sync.

That said, i'll probably just wrap it up and hold onto it for a while and decide later.

OldGuy · November 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM

Corey there is plenty of info on the site for various exhaust and jetting combinations. The changes can range from shimming the needles with washers to a full blown needle and jet changes. It seems that each bike has it's own personality when it comes to this. My '09 has run great from the git go and I have never had a problem with starting (hot or cold) or bogging off the line. Others need some form of help to get consistent performance.

Take you time, read the threads and with the information on this forum you can do just about anything.

ninjabadger · November 30th, 2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGuy

Corey there is plenty of info on the site for various exhaust and jetting combinations. The changes can range from shimming the needles with washers to a full blown needle and jet changes. It seems that each bike has it's own personality when it comes to this. My '09 has run great from the git go and I have never had a problem with starting (hot or cold) or bogging off the line. Others need some form of help to get consistent performance.

Take you time, read the threads and with the information on this forum you can do just about anything.

I'm not opposed to tuning over the long run but for in the short term I'm mostly concerned with whether or not having the slip-on without additional changes is harmful to the engine. When I test rode it on Friday it seemed really weak off idle (I stalled out I don't know how many times) but after I installed the P1 insert it seems to run a bit better which leads me to believe that the smidge of backpressure added helped. Is it bad to run a 250r with a slip on without jetting changes? I know with a full exhaust you definitely need to make that change but is there any danger of damage with a slip-on like the two brothers I have? I've rooted around on the forum and haven't found an answer yet.
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kkim · November 30th, 2009, 11:57 PM

you can run it with a slip on, but it will run a bit lean. I have not heard of anyone damaging their bike with a slip on and not rejetting.

I will say, that shimming the needles will really improve your off idle stalling problem.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9465&

ninjabadger · December 1st, 2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you can run it with a slip on, but it will run a bit lean. I have not heard of anyone damaging their bike with a slip on and not rejetting.

I will say, that shimming the needles will really improve your off idle stalling problem.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9465&

Thanks Kelly. I'll probably look into shimming if the snow holds off and the cold starts becoming a problem. (needs a good amount of choke for warm up at present with temps down in the 30-40 range). Final projects are upon us here an I really don't have half a day to sacrifice to the mod gods.

Good to hear about the leanness not causing anything but performance issues. I guess I've been running two strokes too long. I mean, the scientist in me knows that there's no reason that running lean should damage a four stroke like it will a two stroke. That being said, carburetion has always been more parts voodoo than I'm comfortable with and I prefer to defer to those possessing the proper juju.

kkim · December 1st, 2009, 10:13 AM

Yes, I've noticed 4 strokes have a higher tolerance to jetting inaccuracies. Coming from a long history of 2 stroke dirt bikes, I've seen first hand the damage from lean jetting that was not that far off from perfect.

But like jetting a 2 stroke, listen for pinging/denotation as a sign that you're running too lean. If that happens, damage can occur and you should consider shimming or rejetting.

November 29th, 2009, 03:28 PM	#2
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November 29th, 2009, 03:47 PM	#3
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November 29th, 2009, 04:02 PM	#4
ninjabadger ninjette.org member Name: Corey Location: Madison, WI Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki 250R, 2008 Genuine Buddy 50 Posts: 121	I grew up in Hawaii. kkim can attest to the joy of 365 days of cycling weather there but up here in the frozen tundra it gets a bit nippy after October. I've been riding the scoot back and forth to campus for the last year so I'm pretty well geared up for cold weather, but it certainly takes some of the joy out of riding. Last futzed with by ninjabadger; November 29th, 2009 at 05:22 PM.

November 30th, 2009, 02:40 PM	#17
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	The outside air temperature is directly proportional to the number of chickens sacrificed so you decide what temperature you would like to ride at. This thread is sponsored by the Nebraska Beef Producers as a public service. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

November 30th, 2009, 04:42 PM	#18
nate-bama North Alabama Mtn. ryder Name: Nate Location: Alabama Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Posts: 537	Save a chicken...and kill a packer __________________________________________________ QTRltrPWR

November 29th, 2009, 04:45 PM	#5
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Assuming that your wife rides the second scoot, maybe you can show her that she is the best wife ever by getting her a 250 too. And no chickens need be harmed... Polar fleece or Primaloft works just as well.

November 29th, 2009, 05:01 PM	#6
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	Save a chicken! Move below the snow line... problem solved.

November 29th, 2009, 05:05 PM	#7
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Congrats on the new bike!

November 29th, 2009, 05:22 PM	#8
ninjabadger ninjette.org member Name: Corey Location: Madison, WI Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki 250R, 2008 Genuine Buddy 50 Posts: 121	@Greg That might be in the cards some time in the future. She has expressed an interest in learning how to ride so the new bike will serve in that capacity until she feels comfortable enough to justify her own. It will definitely be a long term project if her comfort level with manual tranny cars is any indication. She is, as those in the Commonwealth might put it, a bit dodgy when it comes to shifting.

November 29th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#9
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	Only one chicken is required, but it must be cooked Thai style in honor of the Thailand workers that built our awesome 250's for us. And since Thai tends to be spicy....it will warm you up so you wont notice the cooler weather.

November 29th, 2009, 07:14 PM	#10
Flow ninjette.org guru Name: Justin Location: Mobile, AL/Memphis, TN Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R/'10 ZX6R/'02 YZ125/'06 DRZ125L/'05 Blaster Posts: 346	A realistic response: how many chickens does it take to get enough money by selling to move to the south?

November 29th, 2009, 08:11 PM	#11
lockie ninjette.org sage Name: don Location: Port Elgin NB Canada Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 blue ninja 250R Posts: 742	One good chicken deserves another no matter what the temperature. That's my story from Northern Canada and I'm sticking to it. Local knowledge says it takes 20 porcupine and a moose to warm up a crowd. No chickens were harmed in this post.

November 29th, 2009, 09:25 PM	#12
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Congrats on the new bike, Corey. Odd that you're returning it back to stock when you're in a time that most are busy doing their winter upgrades. Dunno how many chickens it would take for warm weather as the wild chickens on Kauai are a protected bird. We would never harm any of them.... honest.

November 30th, 2009, 02:14 AM	#15
welcome2thedawn ninjette.org guru Name: dawn Location: portland, or Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r modded, 73 honda cl200, 74 kawasaki 400 triple Posts: 255	it does seem like it's getting cold way too fast this year...i learned the other day that if you start your bike and get sidetracked and leave it running for about a half hour it actually gives off a good amount of heat

November 30th, 2009, 02:18 PM	#16
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Love Thai Food. The hotter the better. If we were not caring for my Father-in-Law, we would be eating Asian food exclusively.

November 30th, 2009, 04:51 PM	#19
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I may need some chicken soup at the end of the week. It is supposed to get down to 28 deg. BRRR.

November 30th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#20
subiegy2010 noob in training Name: Ilya Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R (sold) '05 SV650S Posts: 175	Congrats on the new bike! If you decide to sell that 2 Bros. exhaust, let me know. I'm in Milwaukee and if the price is right, I may be able to pick it up.

November 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#22
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Corey there is plenty of info on the site for various exhaust and jetting combinations. The changes can range from shimming the needles with washers to a full blown needle and jet changes. It seems that each bike has it's own personality when it comes to this. My '09 has run great from the git go and I have never had a problem with starting (hot or cold) or bogging off the line. Others need some form of help to get consistent performance. Take you time, read the threads and with the information on this forum you can do just about anything. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

November 30th, 2009, 11:57 PM	#24
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	you can run it with a slip on, but it will run a bit lean. I have not heard of anyone damaging their bike with a slip on and not rejetting. I will say, that shimming the needles will really improve your off idle stalling problem. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9465&

December 1st, 2009, 10:13 AM	#26
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Yes, I've noticed 4 strokes have a higher tolerance to jetting inaccuracies. Coming from a long history of 2 stroke dirt bikes, I've seen first hand the damage from lean jetting that was not that far off from perfect. But like jetting a 2 stroke, listen for pinging/denotation as a sign that you're running too lean. If that happens, damage can occur and you should consider shimming or rejetting.

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