Solo seat cowl wiggles?

mfresh · February 24th, 2013, 08:55 PM

I just received my "solo" seat cowl off ebay (supposedly OEM) and after I install it I notice there is quite a bit of wiggle on the cowl even after it locks in...

Is this normal?

All the grommets and everything appear to be okay. I didn't expect for it to fit so loose. Wondering if I got a bad one.

Thanks.

EternalNewb · February 24th, 2013, 09:01 PM

I have the same problem with mine, though I don't know if that's normal or not.

LoD575 · February 24th, 2013, 09:07 PM

Try adding some foam weatherstripping along the contact points or buy some longer stoppers to eliminate the wiggle.

polokid699 · February 25th, 2013, 06:34 AM

I was told the easiest solution is to add some washers between the bracket on the bottom of the rear cowl. haven't tried yet but hope to soon.

mfresh · February 25th, 2013, 06:55 AM

So it looks like I am indeed not the only one. The cowl practically rattles on the bike... lol. You would think they'd design the thing better...

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I also found this interesting solution which suggests using velcro: http://www.kawiforums.com/ninja-250r...-included.html

80MPHdownhill · February 26th, 2013, 04:34 PM

I have the factory seat cowl.

It fits perfectly, snaps in place, no wiggles, etc. It shouldn't be loose. The rear grommet should snap in and hold it tightly. The front, you should have to push down on it a bit to compress the rubber standoffs, and then it clicks in place. With this slight compression on the rubber standoffs, it should be held in place tightly.

polokid699 · February 26th, 2013, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80MPHdownhill

I have the factory seat cowl.

It fits perfectly, snaps in place, no wiggles, etc. It shouldn't be loose. The rear grommet should snap in and hold it tightly. The front, you should have to push down on it a bit to compress the rubber standoffs, and then it clicks in place. With this slight compression on the rubber standoffs, it should be held in place tightly.

I also have a Kawasaki factory cowl and I think many people with these have the same issue. Pushing down has no effect. The rear is snapped I. And the front is locked down as well. It's not going come off but kind of annoying that ts not snug and tight

DreamN · February 26th, 2013, 05:23 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15861

you're missing this.

80MPHdownhill · February 27th, 2013, 05:05 PM

I agree with the above, you must be missing some parts or something. Because if you have all the correct factory mounting parts, there's really no way it can be loose. Unless maybe it's somehow way, way out of adjustment.

Slick_Stevo · February 28th, 2013, 07:51 AM

I tried for hours to make the cowl fit properly, finally decided to turn the front bracket around and cut another slot further down on the pin. It fits like a charm now

Aggrotech · June 26th, 2013, 08:28 AM

figured bringing up an old thread would be better than making yet another seat cowl thread.

Ever since i bought mine ive had problems with it. Blows my mind that these derp manufactures cant come up with a better locking mechanism.

Anyway, is there any better way to secure the back of the cowl? While at home depot i got my helmet from the helmet lock and proceeded to put it on my helmet and putting back the rear cowl, just to find out the rubber grommet got pushed out of the little socket yet again..so i ended up just putting the grommet in my backpack along with my seat cowl and got home with nothing on the rear seat area.

I know there are zipties but that wont really help as it'll just make the hole bigger, making it even less secure..

NevadaWolf · June 26th, 2013, 09:45 AM

I had issues with the Ace grommet I bought after getting my cowl. It kept working its way out of the hole in the bracket. But after awhile, it seems to have settled into a fixed place and now I haven't had issues with it. Holds everything nicely, though the amount of crap I put back there is likely going to be an issue at some point.

conrya5 · June 26th, 2013, 04:29 PM

You can buy the actual grommet for only a couple dollars off any major bike part store online.

Aggrotech · June 27th, 2013, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrya5

You can buy the actual grommet for only a couple dollars off any major bike part store online.

I have the grommet, the problem is the grommet wont stay in properly. I even put glue on the inside to keep it stiff so it isnt so flimsy and it will still get pushed down with very little pressure. Which was why i decided to just put the whole rear cowl in my backpack because the back end flopping up/down due to the wind was irritating me. Has to be some way.

conrya5 · June 28th, 2013, 10:49 AM

That's strange, my grommet was actually hard to get in because it fit tightly.

Does the cowl fit into the grommet tightly?

Aggrotech · June 28th, 2013, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrya5

That's strange, my grommet was actually hard to get in because it fit tightly.

Does the cowl fit into the grommet tightly?

yeah, the grommet eventually gets pushed down the hole down into the little storage compartment so every time it does i end up putting it in my pocket and installing it again later, quite irritating.

NevadaWolf · June 28th, 2013, 02:35 PM

Thinking about mine, the only thing i do different is look under the cowl to ensure that back peg lines un straight with the hole in the grommet before pushing it gently in and then snapping the front into place. Maybe its being easy on the back that keeps mine in. ?

Aggrotech · June 28th, 2013, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Maybe its being easy on the back that keeps mine in. ?

haha probably. Once i know i have it right i generally use some force to push it in. Oddly enough the last 2 times the grommet has fallen out i was being super gentle

. Think i might try putting glue on the inner lip of the grommet, all around it and then install it, maybe it'll stick to the frame that way,

arnoldc6 · July 19th, 2013, 02:54 AM

I got one of those from the past owner and his came with a circle plastic rubber that holds it in place.
Not sure though cause i think it looks way better with both seat on

Reckon there is a trend about it somewhere up here.

February 24th, 2013, 08:55 PM	#1
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	Solo seat cowl wiggles? I just received my "solo" seat cowl off ebay (supposedly OEM) and after I install it I notice there is quite a bit of wiggle on the cowl even after it locks in... Is this normal? All the grommets and everything appear to be okay. I didn't expect for it to fit so loose. Wondering if I got a bad one. Thanks. __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

February 25th, 2013, 06:55 AM	#5
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	So it looks like I am indeed not the only one. The cowl practically rattles on the bike... lol. You would think they'd design the thing better... Thanks for the suggestions guys. I also found this interesting solution which suggests using velcro: http://www.kawiforums.com/ninja-250r...-included.html __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

June 26th, 2013, 09:45 AM	#12
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	I had issues with the Ace grommet I bought after getting my cowl. It kept working its way out of the hole in the bracket. But after awhile, it seems to have settled into a fixed place and now I haven't had issues with it. Holds everything nicely, though the amount of crap I put back there is likely going to be an issue at some point. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

June 28th, 2013, 02:35 PM	#17
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Thinking about mine, the only thing i do different is look under the cowl to ensure that back peg lines un straight with the hole in the grommet before pushing it gently in and then snapping the front into place. Maybe its being easy on the back that keeps mine in. ? __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

July 19th, 2013, 02:54 AM	#19
arnoldc6 ninjette.org member Name: Arnold Location: Honolulu Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: 191	I got one of those from the past owner and his came with a circle plastic rubber that holds it in place. Not sure though cause i think it looks way better with both seat on Reckon there is a trend about it somewhere up here. __________________________________________________ "trust me, I am not a lawyer."

February 24th, 2013, 09:01 PM	#2
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	I have the same problem with mine, though I don't know if that's normal or not.

February 24th, 2013, 09:07 PM	#3
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	Try adding some foam weatherstripping along the contact points or buy some longer stoppers to eliminate the wiggle.

February 25th, 2013, 06:34 AM	#4
polokid699 ninjette.org member Name: Scott Location: Fort Worth Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 ZZR600 Posts: 125	I was told the easiest solution is to add some washers between the bracket on the bottom of the rear cowl. haven't tried yet but hope to soon.

February 26th, 2013, 04:34 PM	#6
80MPHdownhill ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Cal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Yes, please. Posts: 121	I have the factory seat cowl. It fits perfectly, snaps in place, no wiggles, etc. It shouldn't be loose. The rear grommet should snap in and hold it tightly. The front, you should have to push down on it a bit to compress the rubber standoffs, and then it clicks in place. With this slight compression on the rubber standoffs, it should be held in place tightly.

February 26th, 2013, 05:23 PM	#8
DreamN Beer Me! Name: Jimmy Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Car(s): '09 Cube, '93 240SX (Coupe & 'Vert) Posts: 144	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15861 you're missing this.

February 27th, 2013, 05:05 PM	#9
80MPHdownhill ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Cal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Yes, please. Posts: 121	I agree with the above, you must be missing some parts or something. Because if you have all the correct factory mounting parts, there's really no way it can be loose. Unless maybe it's somehow way, way out of adjustment.

February 28th, 2013, 07:51 AM	#10
Slick_Stevo ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Toronto, Canada Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '13 GSX-R600, '09 Ninja 250, 04 SV 650 (track) Posts: 157	I tried for hours to make the cowl fit properly, finally decided to turn the front bracket around and cut another slot further down on the pin. It fits like a charm now

June 26th, 2013, 08:28 AM	#11
Aggrotech ninjette.org sage Name: Justin Location: Fresno CA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831	figured bringing up an old thread would be better than making yet another seat cowl thread. Ever since i bought mine ive had problems with it. Blows my mind that these derp manufactures cant come up with a better locking mechanism. Anyway, is there any better way to secure the back of the cowl? While at home depot i got my helmet from the helmet lock and proceeded to put it on my helmet and putting back the rear cowl, just to find out the rubber grommet got pushed out of the little socket yet again..so i ended up just putting the grommet in my backpack along with my seat cowl and got home with nothing on the rear seat area. I know there are zipties but that wont really help as it'll just make the hole bigger, making it even less secure..

June 26th, 2013, 04:29 PM	#13
conrya5 ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: South Eastern, PA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Metalic Island Blue Ninja 250r Posts: 206	You can buy the actual grommet for only a couple dollars off any major bike part store online.

June 28th, 2013, 10:49 AM	#15
conrya5 ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: South Eastern, PA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Metalic Island Blue Ninja 250r Posts: 206	That's strange, my grommet was actually hard to get in because it fit tightly. Does the cowl fit into the grommet tightly?

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