pricing on 08 ninja 250?

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 04:49 AM

there's a blue with 1000+ miles. warranty expired on 4/13. good time protection is good till 4/13/12. crack mirror. asking for $3800. How much can i offer for this bike? what's good time protection?

Thanks all,
Tin

Rynownd · April 9th, 2009, 05:12 AM

Im not sure what the good time protection is, but I got my '08 with 911 miles on it for $900 less dollars than that. So, I would never consider paying $3800. I do, however, feel like I got a great deal, but I wouldn't pay more than $3500 for a 250 that wasn't rolling off the show room floor.

smcbride11 · April 9th, 2009, 07:58 AM

$3800's too much... Remember, you need to pay sales tax on book value at the DMV (and kbb.com has an '08 250R at $2695), so you'd be paying a touch over $4000 to pick it up plus whatever registration fees you have to pay in NJ. He's trying to make you pay for the premium and tax he paid back then the dealers were marking them all up.

By contrast, I bought my '09 for $4200 OTD (tax and title and all included) in September.

I'd personally be looking around $3k for an '08 - they're two years old now and only went for $3500 new, IIRC.

EDIT: Good Times protection is their enhanced warranty. That might make the bike worth more for you, but it's only worth what you'd pay for it. Because I'm trying to learn how to operate a wrench as well as learning to ride, it wouldn't be worth anything for me personally.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Thanks guys.

I guess I will have to be patient and wait.
They are so hard to find around here.
Around what time of the year is a good time to buy a bike?
I offer $3200 but I still feel that's a high price.
I'll wait and not jump on the first offer.

Thanks again.

sometimesido · April 9th, 2009, 10:06 AM

$3k whoa?

You also have to remember 250's are in high demand...

00v_Lucky · April 9th, 2009, 10:08 AM

oh and remember that if they advertise warranty, the warranty does not transfer over owners just like that. You need to go into the dealership and get it situated with them with the previous owner. just an fyi

smcbride11 · April 9th, 2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sometimesido

$3k whoa?

You also have to remember 250's are in high demand...

In this area, they don't appear to be... Both of my local Kawi dealers have '09 250s in stock (and have never had a wait list), and I've seen clean '06 and '07s as low as $1750. That might change once it gets warm (today hit 60 - first day we've seen that warm since October), but with gas down at $2 again we may not see as big a demand spike as we did last year.

Obviously, YMMV, but when I say I wouldn't offer more than $3k that's with the benefit of the above information. That is $400 above KBB's retail price, after all.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 02:02 PM

IMG_1207.jpg

IMG_1205.jpgOk.
She replied back and said to come see the bike and bring $3200.
I live in NJ and the bike is in NYC. I will meet up with her this sat to check it out.
one of the mirror is crack. Do you think I can talk her down to $3000?

how do i upload pic?

Alex · April 9th, 2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

how do i upload pic?

This thread shows how to load pics to this site.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 03:20 PM

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Thanks Alex.

here are some pics

the girl said the bike never drop. it leaned over and hit the fence and cracked the mirror.
any opinion?

Rynownd · April 9th, 2009, 03:29 PM

OH yeah! It's blue! I like the fender mod too.

HKr1 · April 9th, 2009, 04:03 PM

Dam, those allens sure rust up from weather. < holding the bars on

kkim · April 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM

use craiglist and the local paper to determine the market value in your area. if that bike were here, it would be gone is a second.

I'd check out the bike and see if it runs as well as she says it does, ask her why she's selling and play up the replacement cost for the broken pieces. even at 3200, that's a decent deal if you like the color. you can always fix the stuff as they become available on ebay.

did she have the 600 mile check done? if not, factor that into the pricing. if she did, that's a good sign she was diligent with the bike and that the oil have been changed.

gl... let us know what you decide.

hogfan83 · April 9th, 2009, 04:17 PM

pay for shipping and buy my 2009 S.E. for the same price....factory warranty for another 10 months..

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 04:52 PM

she said she just had the oil change and the k&n filter.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogfan83

pay for shipping and buy my 2009 S.E. for the same price....factory warranty for another 10 months..

how much is the shipping cost?

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

Dam, those allens sure rust up from weather. < holding the bars on

thanks for pointing it out.
i didn't even notice.

kkim · April 9th, 2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

she said she just had the oil change and the k&n filter.

and has the documentation to prove it? if so, I'd say the bike is worth taking a look at and making an offer. take 3k in large bills and 200 in smaller bills. work out a price and then you'll have the exact amount you settle on.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

and has the documentation to prove it? if so, I'd say the bike is worth taking a look at and making an offer. take 3k in large bills and 200 in smaller bills. work out a price and then you'll have the exact amount you settle on.

how much does a 600 mile service cost?
thanks for the tip.
i've watch some video on utube and they say exactly the same. divide up the money in multiple pockets and work up.

Alex · April 9th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

the girl said the bike never drop. it leaned over and hit the fence and cracked the mirror.
any opinion?

Personally? I find that unlikely. Leaning over and hitting a fence isn't going to crack a mirror and break the end of the lever off. It hit the ground. Now whether hitting the ground once is a dealbreaker is a different story, but it may help you get a better deal.

JaeL · April 9th, 2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

and has the documentation to prove it? if so, I'd say the bike is worth taking a look at and making an offer. take 3k in large bills and 200 in smaller bills. work out a price and then you'll have the exact amount you settle on.

I would only take $3000, look up the prices to replace those parts and have the numbers documentation with you. And don't forget it's been left out in the rain more than a couple times. I dunno about you guys but I dry my baby off when she gets into the garage after she's been in the rain bc im ANAL ABOUT MY BIKE. Depending on the person, it could really show what kinda care the owner put or didn't put into it.

sometimesido · April 9th, 2009, 05:38 PM

yea i call bs in fence too.

JaeL · April 9th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sometimesido

yea i call bs in fence too.

it coulda been a mean fence...

miks · April 9th, 2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogfan83

pay for shipping and buy my 2009 S.E. for the same price....factory warranty for another 10 months..

You should consider this fellas bike, unless you really really love the blue. Sounds reasonable, unless shipping is like 1million dollars.

sometimesido · April 9th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Greyhound and ride it back.
Only 1100 miles

miks · April 9th, 2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sometimesido

Greyhound and ride it back.
Only 1100 miles

If he wants a bike that much, you never know!

Jiu Jitsu Player · April 9th, 2009, 06:04 PM

Yeah definitely look into that whole mirror situation. I've hit my mirrors a few times pretty hard and all Ive gotten were some minor scratches on the black part. It would have to hit pretty hard or at a really wierd angle to crack the glass. Really inspect the side of the bike with the cracked mirror.

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Personally? I find that unlikely. Leaning over and hitting a fence isn't going to crack a mirror and break the end of the lever off. It hit the ground. Now whether hitting the ground once is a dealbreaker is a different story, but it may help you get a better deal.

Thanks again.
I couldn't figure what that last pic was.
now i know it's the end of the lever.
How much would it cost to replace the mirror and the lever?

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miks

You should consider this fellas bike, unless you really really love the blue. Sounds reasonable, unless shipping is like 1million dollars.

I wouldn't mind the green.
Black is my first choice but these ninjas are so rare here, so color isn't important anymore. I think he was joking about selling his 09 se.

sometimesido · April 9th, 2009, 06:59 PM

mirror and the lever itself won't cost that much.
It's the fact that it's been dropped, which might have hidden damage.

miks · April 9th, 2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

I wouldn't mind the green.
Black is my first choice but these ninjas are so rare here, so color isn't important anymore. I think he was joking about selling his 09 se.

Actually he's not joking, he's really selling due to a baby.

Heres the link,

Hogfan83's bike

tinng321 · April 9th, 2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miks

Actually he's not joking, he's really selling due to a baby.

Heres the link,

Hogfan83's bike

oh ok.

thanks,
I made an offer of 3500 delivered.

miks · April 9th, 2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogfan83

pay for shipping and buy my 2009 S.E. for the same price....factory warranty for another 10 months..

How much would the shipping cost be from where he lives to where you live?

lavid2002 · April 9th, 2009, 07:48 PM

shes missing nuts on her exhaust

tinng321 · April 10th, 2009, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavid2002

shes missing nuts on her exhaust

how many nuts does it supposed to have?
does it mean she've had an aftermarket exhaust?

smcbride11 · April 10th, 2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinng321

How much would it cost to replace the mirror and the lever?

Assuming you do the work yourself (and it'll take about 25 minutes total, assuming it's your first time removing your fairings), it's about $55. Not a big deal.

For reference, though, I lowsided at about 15 mph and only scuffed my brake lever and folded the mirror in... didn't even scratch the plastic on the mirror. Check the turn signal on that side too - it's likely either been replaced or doesn't work, because I don't know how you could hit the brake and mirror that hard and not have the fairing and signal hit also.

tinng321 · April 12th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Ok, I went to see the bike today.
It was dropped definitely.
she wants 3100.
there's a tiny crack on the left fairing and a tiny chip on the left rear plastic.
should I buy it? or wait?
need responses now..
thanks all...

kkim · April 12th, 2009, 12:22 PM

pictures of the damage?

JaeL · April 12th, 2009, 01:21 PM

I still think that a lil high..... But if you have money to burn and want a summer project then go for it. I bet by the time its said and done you will have made it back up to the original msrp $3499. For a two year old bike with 1000+ miles......

tinng321 · April 12th, 2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

pictures of the damage?

i didn't take picture.

yeah.
i don't want to spend the summer fixing this and that so I've decided to wait till the next opportunity.
if you guys know anyone selling around here please let me know.
thanks all.

April 9th, 2009, 04:49 AM	#1
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	pricing on 08 ninja 250? there's a blue with 1000+ miles. warranty expired on 4/13. good time protection is good till 4/13/12. crack mirror. asking for $3800. How much can i offer for this bike? what's good time protection? Thanks all, Tin

April 9th, 2009, 05:12 AM	#2
Rynownd ninjette.org guru Name: Ryne Location: West Laf, IN Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 290	Im not sure what the good time protection is, but I got my '08 with 911 miles on it for $900 less dollars than that. So, I would never consider paying $3800. I do, however, feel like I got a great deal, but I wouldn't pay more than $3500 for a 250 that wasn't rolling off the show room floor. __________________________________________________ http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/224099

April 9th, 2009, 10:06 AM	#5
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	$3k whoa? You also have to remember 250's are in high demand... __________________________________________________ my flickr™

April 9th, 2009, 02:02 PM	#8
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	IMG_1207.jpg IMG_1205.jpgOk. She replied back and said to come see the bike and bring $3200. I live in NJ and the bike is in NYC. I will meet up with her this sat to check it out. one of the mirror is crack. Do you think I can talk her down to $3000? how do i upload pic? Last futzed with by tinng321; April 9th, 2009 at 03:23 PM.

April 9th, 2009, 03:29 PM	#11
Rynownd ninjette.org guru Name: Ryne Location: West Laf, IN Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 290	OH yeah! It's blue! I like the fender mod too. __________________________________________________ http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/224099

April 9th, 2009, 07:58 AM	#3
smcbride11 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Providence, RI Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '95 BMW K75 Posts: 188	$3800's too much... Remember, you need to pay sales tax on book value at the DMV (and kbb.com has an '08 250R at $2695), so you'd be paying a touch over $4000 to pick it up plus whatever registration fees you have to pay in NJ. He's trying to make you pay for the premium and tax he paid back then the dealers were marking them all up. By contrast, I bought my '09 for $4200 OTD (tax and title and all included) in September. I'd personally be looking around $3k for an '08 - they're two years old now and only went for $3500 new, IIRC. EDIT: Good Times protection is their enhanced warranty. That might make the bike worth more for you, but it's only worth what you'd pay for it. Because I'm trying to learn how to operate a wrench as well as learning to ride, it wouldn't be worth anything for me personally.

April 9th, 2009, 10:02 AM	#4
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	Thanks guys. I guess I will have to be patient and wait. They are so hard to find around here. Around what time of the year is a good time to buy a bike? I offer $3200 but I still feel that's a high price. I'll wait and not jump on the first offer. Thanks again.

April 9th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#6
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	oh and remember that if they advertise warranty, the warranty does not transfer over owners just like that. You need to go into the dealership and get it situated with them with the previous owner. just an fyi

April 9th, 2009, 03:20 PM	#10
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	IMG_1200.jpg IMG_1202.jpg IMG_1203.jpg IMG_1206.jpg IMG_1208.jpg Thanks Alex. here are some pics the girl said the bike never drop. it leaned over and hit the fence and cracked the mirror. any opinion?

April 9th, 2009, 04:03 PM	#12
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Dam, those allens sure rust up from weather. < holding the bars on

April 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM	#13
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	use craiglist and the local paper to determine the market value in your area. if that bike were here, it would be gone is a second. I'd check out the bike and see if it runs as well as she says it does, ask her why she's selling and play up the replacement cost for the broken pieces. even at 3200, that's a decent deal if you like the color. you can always fix the stuff as they become available on ebay. did she have the 600 mile check done? if not, factor that into the pricing. if she did, that's a good sign she was diligent with the bike and that the oil have been changed. gl... let us know what you decide.

April 9th, 2009, 04:17 PM	#14
hogfan83 ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Little Rock, AR Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 65	pay for shipping and buy my 2009 S.E. for the same price....factory warranty for another 10 months.. __________________________________________________ 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Special Edition

April 9th, 2009, 04:52 PM	#15
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	she said she just had the oil change and the k&n filter.

April 9th, 2009, 05:38 PM	#22
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	yea i call bs in fence too. __________________________________________________ my flickr™

April 9th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#25
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	Greyhound and ride it back. Only 1100 miles __________________________________________________ my flickr™

April 9th, 2009, 06:04 PM	#27
Jiu Jitsu Player Live 2 Ride Forced 2 Work Name: Chris Location: Guam Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 RED 250r Posts: 386	Yeah definitely look into that whole mirror situation. I've hit my mirrors a few times pretty hard and all Ive gotten were some minor scratches on the black part. It would have to hit pretty hard or at a really wierd angle to crack the glass. Really inspect the side of the bike with the cracked mirror. __________________________________________________ SAVAGE MODE: [ON] OFF www.7milesdown.com

April 9th, 2009, 06:59 PM	#30
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	mirror and the lever itself won't cost that much. It's the fact that it's been dropped, which might have hidden damage. __________________________________________________ my flickr™

April 9th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#34
lavid2002 ninjette.org member Name: Dave Location: South Jerzey Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 181	shes missing nuts on her exhaust __________________________________________________ -Dave

April 12th, 2009, 11:43 AM	#37
tinng321 ninjette.org sage Name: Tin Location: NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 black 250r (sold); '09 black zx6r Posts: 903	Ok, I went to see the bike today. It was dropped definitely. she wants 3100. there's a tiny crack on the left fairing and a tiny chip on the left rear plastic. should I buy it? or wait? need responses now.. thanks all...

April 12th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#38
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	pictures of the damage?

April 12th, 2009, 01:21 PM	#39
JaeL Bike Thrasher Name: JaeL Location: Omaha Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 EX250r Posts: 334 Blog Entries: 10	I still think that a lil high..... But if you have money to burn and want a summer project then go for it. I bet by the time its said and done you will have made it back up to the original msrp $3499. For a two year old bike with 1000+ miles...... __________________________________________________ Intuitive Sliders, Aftermarket pegs, Custom Paint, Seat Cowl, Tinted Screen, Aftermarket flush mounts, Wheel Tape, Fender Chopped, Stock Shortie Exhaust and Woodcraft ClipOns

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