Mystery of the dissapearing oil.....

[Stingray1000]

Good advice... So here goes. I realized my bike is losing oil with no real visible leaks. Although it does look like a greasy spot about 6 inches under my seat where the engine is but idk what to call that area. right under my side fairings. no smoke at all out of the mufflers.

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Probably not a good idea. No visual leaks? Does it smoke or smell of burning oil?

Maybe start a new thread in the tech section.

[lgk]

how much oil do you lose in a week?

[davenay67]

Obvious question....but your oil level isn't above the top line on the sight glass when the bike is on 2 wheels and vertical, right..??

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by davenay67

Obvious question....but your oil level isn't above the top line on the sight glass when the bike is on 2 wheels and vertical, right..??

Ok oil level currently as at the very bottom of the sight glass when it's up on the center stand. It was in the middle of the sight glass 2 weeks ago. and I had not run the bike that day when checking both times.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

........no smoke at all out of the mufflers.

It doesn't mean that some oil is not being sucked up into the combustion chamber due to defective rings or restricted crankcase ventilation.

I would check the snorkel or modified vent and would add some Seafoam to the fuel.

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by Motofool

It doesn't mean that some oil is not being sucked up into the combustion chamber due to defective rings or restricted crankcase ventilation.

I would check the snorkel or modified vent and would add some Seafoam to the fuel.

Motofool: Why the seafoam???

Stingray: What performance mods have been done? Have you removed the airbox?

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Motofool: Why the seafoam???

Stingray: What performance mods have been done? Have you removed the airbox?

idk what was done before I got it and would have no idea if anyhting was removed but I've done no mods except fairing and lighting.

[flynjay]

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

Ok oil level currently as at the very bottom of the sight glass when it's up on the center stand. It was in the middle of the sight glass 2 weeks ago. and I had not run the bike that day when checking both times.

I would say you are probably over filling the oil. I can't see oil in the sightglass when it's on the center stand.

Oil level should be checked when the bike is on it's two wheels on level pavement while not leaned over.

Middle of the sightglass on the center stand is definately too much oil.

[davenay67]

Pull the cap on the airbox drain hose....have a container ready in case you suddenly find your missing oil....

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by flynjay

I would say you are probably over filling the oil. I can't see oil in the sightglass when it's on the center stand.

Oil level should be checked when the bike is on it's two wheels on level pavement while not leaned over.

Middle of the sightglass on the center stand is definately too much oil.

This may be true as I am not familiar with the proper procedure for checking the oil on the pre-gens. I can only assume it would be the same as the new gens and should be checked only when the bike is on 2 wheels and vertical as @flynjay as mentioned. I would however like to address the oily area under the seat. If in fact the oil level is high then it will blow oil out the crankcase breather which in stock form goes back into the stock airbox. If the airbox has been removed then this can also happen even with proper oil levels if the bike is driven at high RPM's for extended periods with a small pod filter that has replaced the crankcase hose.

Can you provide a picture of the area under your seat. Kinda need to see what is and what is not there.

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by flynjay

I would say you are probably over filling the oil. I can't see oil in the sightglass when it's on the center stand.

Oil level should be checked when the bike is on it's two wheels on level pavement while not leaned over.

Middle of the sightglass on the center stand is definately too much oil.

So with the bike vertical the oil being in the center of the sight glass is too full??? What's the point of the sightglass than? If I can see oil in the sightglass it's over full? that doesnt make any sense..... Now one Issue I would like to share with you all is that when I bougth the bike, the oil was over filled by the prev owner by a full quart. Oil was spilling out right under my seat. So I removed all the oil. Filled it to the site glass then took it over to have an oil change.

[flynjay]

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

So with the bike vertical the oil being in the center of the sight glass is too full??? What's the point of the sightglass than? If I can see oil in the sightglass it's over full? that doesnt make any sense..... Now one Issue I would like to share with you all is that when I bougth the bike, the oil was over filled by the prev owner by a full quart. Oil was spilling out right under my seat. So I removed all the oil. Filled it to the site glass then took it over to have an oil change.

When the bike is on the center stand the rear wheel is higher than it would be otherwise. This causes the oil to pool more torwards the front of the engine (away from the sightglass).

The oil level should be within the marks on the sightglass when the bike is level (side-to-side) and on it's two wheels (not on the center stand).

If the oil level is in the middle of the sight glass while the bike is on the centerstand, it is more than likely overfilled. Check the oil level when the bike is not on the centerstand and report back.

Oil coming out under the seat (I assume out of the airbox or crankcase vent), is another indication that the engine is overfilled with oil. Although oil is supposed to come out of this area, it shouldn't be in large amounts.

[Stingray1000]

The screw to the right of the hose looks oily/grimey

[alex.s]

i took it!

[alex.s]

take off the crank case breather and see if it and your airbox are covered in oil. run the bike with the crank case breather disconnected and see if its gushing smoke out

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by alex.s

take off the crank case breather and see if it and your airbox are covered in oil. run the bike with the crank case breather disconnected and see if its gushing smoke out

Where is that located?

[dirty nasty]

These bikes burn oil at high RPM operation. I regularly wring the neck off of mine. I always check my oil before riding. About every three tanks of gas I'll have to bring the level from about half in the sight glass to full. My bike isn't no clapped out beater either. It had 2845 miles when I bought it and it still pulls stronger than ever. Just did a nice stretch at a GPS indicated 100 MPH for a good forty miles today actually. These bikes are bullet proof too!

[choneofakind]

^^ take it easy on that thing. 100 for 40 miles is literally as fast as she'll go, no wonder you blow so much oil out the pipe...

Mine burned a little at the track but not that bad.
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[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

Where is that located?

Just take your air filter out for now and look into the airbox. Lets see if it has a puddle of oil in it. You familiar on where and how to take the air filter out?

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Just take your air filter out for now and look into the airbox. Lets see if it has a puddle of oil in it. You familiar on where and how to take the air filter out?

No Idea bubba, Prob needs an air filter change as well anyways so Can you tell me? LOL

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

No Idea bubba, Prob needs an air filter change as well anyways so Can you tell me? LOL

Here you go.

[Stingray1000]

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Here you go.

Thanks!

[dirty nasty]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

^^ take it easy on that thing. 100 for 40 miles is literally as fast as she'll go, no wonder you blow so much oil out the pipe...

Mine burned a little at the track but not that bad.
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Nah, I'm gonna ride the living piss outta thing thing, blow it up a few times in-between and keep rebuilding it. What fun are toys if you don't use 'em?

[EMSRacer07]

when i have mine on the centerstand full of oil its about more than halfway on the glass. And when on the ground its to the top mark. I know i get gf to do it for me

[ninja_thresh_hold]

hmm idk but if i were you i'd go for royal purp when you change your oil

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by ninja_thresh_hold

hmm idk but if i were you i'd go for royal purp when you change your oil

Why?

[choneofakind]

Purple? Meh.
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