Brake vs break (and other laughable misuses of words) - Page 3

Ninjinsky · September 26th, 2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snot

That had to be funny. Do you play?

Hi Snot
Yes, I'm no Yngwe Malmsteen but I love guitar
Not to hijack, we had this thread on this a short while back. If you play or sing give it a bump, I'm sure there are more musos here than found it.

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190241

ally99 · September 26th, 2014, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifleman

moo point... it's a cows opinion ... it just doesn't matter

of course my son (when he was 9) asks me how to use double contractions... I'm like

what are you talking about...

he says, if you contract "you are not"... would that be you'ren't or "you will not" would that be you'lln't

Badass! Good logic in his thinking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

It's both as far as I am aware.

From http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/sin...e-vs-none-was/

Rule: The word none is versatile. It has a plural sense (“not any”) as well as a singular sense (“not a single one”). When none is followed by of, look at the noun in your of phrase (object of the preposition). If the object of the preposition is singular, use a singular verb. If the object of the preposition is plural, there is more leeway. Most of the time, but not always, you will want to use a plural verb.

Examples:
None of the pie was eaten.
None of the children were hungry. BUT None (as in, “not a single one”) of the children was hungry is not incorrect.

In a sentence like “None were missing,” there is an implicit noun that answers the question, “None of what?” If that noun is singular, none takes a singular verb. If that noun is plural, it is up to the writer and the sense of the sentence to determine whether none takes a singular or a plural verb.

Examples:
None was missing. (None of the pie was missing.)
None were missing. (None of the cookies were missing. But there may be times when a writer prefers was, as in Not a single one of the cookies was missing.)

Note: Apparently, the SAT testing service considers none as a singular word only. However, according to Merriam Webster’s Dictionary of English Usage, “Clearly none has been both singular and plural since Old English and still is. The notion that it is singular only is a myth of unknown origin that appears to have arisen in the 19th century. If in context it seems like a singular to you, use a singular verb; if it seems like a plural, use a plural verb. Both are acceptable beyond serious criticism” (p. 664)

Very insightful, Teri! The English language is so full of rules with just as many exceptions to those rules. There's a reason it's one of the more difficult languages to learn. We English folk like to break rules apparently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

LoL I just think it's great that I can come to a biker forum and have an argument about the fine points of grammar

(Also delighted to, belatedly, find the "favorite books" thread)

Ahh, two of my favorite threads too!

InvisiBill · September 28th, 2014, 09:07 AM

"would of"

Would've is what you're looking for, which is a contraction of would have. Would of makes no sense whatsoever. You're replacing a transitive verb with a preposition.

snot · September 28th, 2014, 12:50 PM

http://m.whio.com/news/news/crime-la...-dayton/nhXWF/

Quote:

crhome handgun at the clerk, demanding money.

TnNinjaGirl · October 4th, 2014, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifleman

moo point... it's a cows opinion ... it just doesn't matter

of course my son (when he was 9) asks me how to use double contractions... I'm like

what are you talking about...

he says, if you contract "you are not"... would that be you'ren't or "you will not" would that be you'lln't

I said, I don't think so son

ya'll's... I use that all the time.

Roark · October 6th, 2014, 10:49 AM

you+all=yall
all+you+all=all yall

both wrong..

allanoue · October 6th, 2014, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

you+all=yall
all+you+all=all yall

both wrong..

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/y'all

Y'all snobs and y'all perfectionist: all y'all are wrong

Roark · October 6th, 2014, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/y'all

Y'all snobs and y'all perfectionist: all y'all are wrong

Ahh, crap.. The world is advancing too quickly for me to keep up!

Should've known when "twerk" and "chugging" were entries.

dcj13 · October 6th, 2014, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisiBill

"would of"

Would've is what you're looking for, which is a contraction of would have. Would of makes no sense whatsoever. You're replacing a transitive verb with a preposition.

Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

Roark · October 7th, 2014, 09:21 AM

"fixing to" or "fistening to"

It may originate from "fixate"-focusing on something, or "fix"- set one's eyes or mind on something.

Today's versions are horrendous.

mst · July 30th, 2016, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

Loose -adjective: not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached.

Lose - verb: to misplace something

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 !!!!!!

I don't know who started "loose" vs "lose", but for some reason, even many obviously "english-first-languagers" (lol), seem to have adopted "loose" as the "new" lose

To me it's like "fingernails on a chalkboard".

And there's the now ever common practice of starting a post with "So ......"

SLOWn60 · July 30th, 2016, 07:03 AM

Reading threw

this thread; the word that comes to mind is: anal!

Bob2010 · July 30th, 2016, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

Reading threw

this thread; the word that comes to mind is: anal!

Some of it is pretty anal. I can deal with the "grammar nazis" but when I read a post that says " I need to replace my breaks" I just assume you also call those tiny flying blood suckers "skeeters" too.

CC Cowboy · July 30th, 2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

Reading threw

this thread; the word that comes to mind is: anal!

Eye don't no witch won!

CaliGrrl · July 30th, 2016, 07:40 PM

I'm on board with the grammar-nazis. Sorry, but it grates on me when things are used that wrongly. Yes, I can piece together what you meant, but it makes my brain do a full-stop to look at it. Not for long but it does interrupt the flow of the thing I'm reading.

Koala · July 30th, 2016, 08:53 PM

them selfs/themselves
loose/lose

and one of my biggest pet peeves of all......conversate. There are so many stupid people out there trying to sound smart that it is now in the dictionary.

YOU CONVERSE OR HAVE A CONVERSATION!!! YOU DO NOT CONVERSATE!!!

Thanks for listening, I'm done lol

Ninjinsky · August 2nd, 2016, 07:02 AM

"The Democratic party" I've seen that a lot this year even in news articles.

allanoue · August 2nd, 2016, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

"The Democratic party" I've seen that a lot this year even in news articles.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Party

Only people who dislike the "The Democratic Party" think it is wrong.

Your colors are showing

ally99 · August 24th, 2016, 05:38 AM

Oh bringing back to life won

uv my favorite threds.

Triple Jim · August 24th, 2016, 06:45 AM

On another board, a guy was talking about his reed valve peddles. Another guy started using that spelling. Eventually I posted that peddlers peddle their wares, and reed valves have petals, like flowers. The original bad speller still hasn't gotten it right, but has changed to pedals.

SLOWn60 · August 24th, 2016, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

Oh bringing back to life won

uv my favorite threds.

Hmmm.... Hey Ally; could we get a ruling on this one?:

"I had no idea the undulating roller-coaster journey that lied ahead of me here."

ally99 · August 24th, 2016, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

Hmmm.... Hey Ally; could we get a ruling on this one?:

"I had no idea the undulating roller-coaster journey that lied ahead of me here."

LOL! Yeah, should have been "laid", I guess? It just sounded funny either way.

It never happened.

SLOWn60 · August 24th, 2016, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

LOL! Yeah, should have been "laid", I guess? It just sounded funny either way.

It never happened.

I would have used "lay" but that is one of those awkward deliberations the English language forces upon the writer on occasion!

Koala · August 24th, 2016, 02:34 PM

One I've noticed quite a bit lately is "leader bikes."

I would be reading threads on Reddit and getting confused lol....then realizing they meant "liter."

Ninjinsky · August 26th, 2016, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koala

One I've noticed quite a bit lately is "leader bikes."

I would be reading threads on Reddit and getting confused lol....then realizing they meant "liter."

They tend to mean the same thing

SLOWn60 · August 26th, 2016, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

They tend to mean the same thing

I see what you did there!

ally99 · August 26th, 2016, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koala

One I've noticed quite a bit lately is "leader bikes."

I would be reading threads on Reddit and getting confused lol....then realizing they meant "liter."

Ninjinsky · August 26th, 2016, 02:58 PM

"hard disc"

then again, why not?

Ninjinsky · August 28th, 2016, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

I would have used "lay" but that is one of those awkward deliberations the English language forces upon the writer on occasion!

Here is Emily Brewster to help.

Link to original page on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/sdR-Dp4Nmn4

InvisiBill · August 28th, 2016, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

"hard disc"

then again, why not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_disc

Quote:

Disc and disk are two variants of the English word for objects of a generally thin and cylindrical geometry. These variations are due to the way in which the words originated. A widespread consensus has developed that the spelling variant should be dependent on the sense for which the word is intended. The convention for flat, rotational data storage media is that disk refers to magnetic storage while disc refers to optical storage.

Stupid Brits anyway...

Quote:

By the 20th century, the "k" spelling was more popular in America, while the "c" variant was preferred in the UK.

And for non-computer stuff:

Quote:

The words disc and disk can appear frequently in medical journals and textbooks, especially those in ophthalmology and orthopedics, and thus style guides often foster consistency by giving rules for which contexts take which spelling. AMA style for this topic is used by many publications. AMA says, "For ophthalmologic terms, use disc (eg, optic disc); for other anatomical terms, use disk (eg, lumbar disk).

http://writingexplained.org/disc-or-disk-difference has more info too.

SLOWn60 · August 28th, 2016, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

Here is Emily Brewster to help.

Link to original page on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/sdR-Dp4Nmn4

@ally99: Get this girl a beer! She obviously missed all the university parties!
....interesting that her name is "Brewster!

Ninjinsky · August 28th, 2016, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

@ally99: Get this girl a beer! She obviously missed all the university parties!
....interesting that her name is "Brewster!

Surprisingly, she has something of a fan club, I think its her voice that does it.
http://www.quora.com/Is-Emily-Brewst...All-Dream-Girl

I prefer her old look, as in this one, before she did the makeover with the fringe.
Drive safe.

Link to original page on YouTube.

ally99 · August 29th, 2016, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

@ally99: Get this girl a beer! She obviously missed all the university parties!
....interesting that her name is "Brewster!

That was super informative. I love random grammar rules like that. And that girl's probably dirty. Bet she'd surprise you.

Triple Jim · August 29th, 2016, 06:43 PM

Here's one... using "fitment" to mean "fit", as in "Be sure to measure rim width to ensure correct tire fitment."

From the Merriam-Webster site:

Quote:

fitment
noun fit·ment \ˈfit-mənt\

Definition of fitment
chiefly British

: furnishing 2, fixture, cabinetry —usually used in plural

SLOWn60 · August 29th, 2016, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

That was super informative. I love random grammar rules like that. And that girl's probably dirty. Bet she'd surprise you.

The wildest girls at our dances were from the Catholic Private School! Later: Nurses!

But yes; book worms are well read

And few things are sexier than shaking out a hair bun!

September 28th, 2014, 09:07 AM	#83
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October 6th, 2014, 10:49 AM	#86
Roark ninjette.org sage Name: James Location: Lakeland Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninjette Posts: 809	you+all=yall all+you+all=all yall both wrong.. __________________________________________________ "That's what" -she
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October 7th, 2014, 09:21 AM	#90
Roark ninjette.org sage Name: James Location: Lakeland Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninjette Posts: 809	"fixing to" or "fistening to" It may originate from "fixate"-focusing on something, or "fix"- set one's eyes or mind on something. Today's versions are horrendous. __________________________________________________ "That's what" -she

July 30th, 2016, 07:03 AM	#92
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	Reading threw this thread; the word that comes to mind is: anal! __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over
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August 24th, 2016, 05:38 AM	#99
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Oh bringing back to life won uv my favorite threds. __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

July 30th, 2016, 07:40 PM	#95
CaliGrrl ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kerry Location: Ventura, CA Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '18, Apr '17, Apr '16	I'm on board with the grammar-nazis. Sorry, but it grates on me when things are used that wrongly. Yes, I can piece together what you meant, but it makes my brain do a full-stop to look at it. Not for long but it does interrupt the flow of the thing I'm reading.

July 30th, 2016, 08:53 PM	#96
Koala ninjette.org sage Name: Koala Location: Ohio Join Date: May 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2017 Ninja 300 Winter Test Edition Posts: 589 MOTM - May '18	them selfs/themselves loose/lose and one of my biggest pet peeves of all......conversate. There are so many stupid people out there trying to sound smart that it is now in the dictionary. YOU CONVERSE OR HAVE A CONVERSATION!!! YOU DO NOT CONVERSATE!!! Thanks for listening, I'm done lol

August 2nd, 2016, 07:02 AM	#97
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	"The Democratic party" I've seen that a lot this year even in news articles.

August 24th, 2016, 06:45 AM	#100
Triple Jim Guy Who Enjoys Riding Name: Jim Location: North Carolina Join Date: Jul 2016 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16	On another board, a guy was talking about his reed valve peddles. Another guy started using that spelling. Eventually I posted that peddlers peddle their wares, and reed valves have petals, like flowers. The original bad speller still hasn't gotten it right, but has changed to pedals.

August 24th, 2016, 02:34 PM	#104
Koala ninjette.org sage Name: Koala Location: Ohio Join Date: May 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2017 Ninja 300 Winter Test Edition Posts: 589 MOTM - May '18	One I've noticed quite a bit lately is "leader bikes." I would be reading threads on Reddit and getting confused lol....then realizing they meant "liter."
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August 26th, 2016, 02:58 PM	#108
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	"hard disc" then again, why not?

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