do you find the seat hard?

gizmogamez · April 28th, 2009, 01:32 PM

I've noticed that compaired to my 2000 zzr250 the new seat makes my butt hurt and fall asleep much faster. I used to do 2 hour rides with very little problem, but now after 30-40min I find I need a 2 min break and walk around.

Anyone else find this? does the seat get softer with time?

could i look at getting a gel seat or something like that????

Snake · April 28th, 2009, 01:34 PM

I have an 05 and it takes about an hour for the seat to start feeling hard. At that point I pull over and stretch abit.

SpyderGirl · April 28th, 2009, 01:47 PM

My commute is 40 miles in traffic... so well over a hour on the bike -- no problems here.

Mista Bob · April 28th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Yeah that's one of the first things I noticed on the new 250 compared to my ZZR 250.
The seat is much harder, doesn't seem as comfy but I personally like the sitting position better.

You could look into a Corbin seat for it I suppose.
http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kn250r8f.shtml

mcteague · April 28th, 2009, 02:52 PM

Actually I think the foam is soft. It easily compresses and then you just feel the hard seat pan. The stock seat is garbage IMO. It also pushes you forward onto your crotch. The Corbin is much better but still not great.

Tim

capt_bugaloo · April 28th, 2009, 03:14 PM

At first I found the seat very hard, but I've gotten used to it. I can usually ride for about 90 minutes before I need to hop off and stretch my legs for a bit.

gizmogamez · April 29th, 2009, 05:19 AM

thx everyone

CC Cowboy · April 29th, 2009, 05:40 AM

I find the more you ride the more you get used to the bike you're riding. If you can't ride for that long get a Corbin seat. If you want to experience a terrible seat and hard riding bike try a Harley Cafe.

Purspeed · May 1st, 2009, 04:44 PM

Try putting your weight on the pegs and tightening your stomach when riding. This will remove most weight off of your behind but will take a bit of practice. It's the proper way to ride, in fact.

Sound Wave · May 1st, 2009, 08:23 PM

the seat is softer than the corbin is. but as everybody knows, the stock seat slides you forward and crushes your nuts. i found myself always having to push myself back.

if i had to choose between the two, i like my corbin better. wider base and more supportive... plus it doesn't slide you forward.

Apex · May 1st, 2009, 08:27 PM

My hind quarters starts hurting after about 2 hours of riding. Once it reaches that point, it just plain hurts, no matter how much I stretch. I can stretch for a solid 5-10 minutes, but that isn't enough. I need more padding back there.

BlueRaven · May 1st, 2009, 08:29 PM

i'm having my seat redone and replacing the factory foam with softer foam. to my surprise the upholserer told me that gel would be too hard as i have a bony butt. i have a very thick gel set on my mtn bike and it feels wonderful but it hurts after a while, maybe the squishy feeling was a false sense of softeness. he's shaving all the foam off in my sitting area and putting an inch of this softer foam so it will also help lower me on the bike which i desperately need. he's only charging me $40 and all the bikers go to him. will see how this works out if not well i'll suck it up and buy the corbin.

Apex · May 1st, 2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRaven

i'm having my seat redone and replacing the factory foam with softer foam. to my surprise the upholserer told me that gel would be too hard as i have a bony butt. i have a very thick gel set on my mtn bike and it feels wonderful but it hurts after a while, maybe the squishy feeling was a false sense of softeness. he's shaving all the foam off in my sitting area and putting an inch of this softer foam so it will also help lower me on the bike which i desperately need. he's only charging me $40 and all the bikers go to him. will see how this works out if not well i'll suck it up and buy the corbin.

Let me know. My boney butt needs help. So if that works, I'm all for doing the same.

BlueRaven · May 1st, 2009, 08:36 PM

i'll ask him what type of foam he used too.

Apex · May 1st, 2009, 08:42 PM

I appreciate it!

ninjabrewer · May 1st, 2009, 10:08 PM

but my commute is only about 20 min or so, so it doesn't bother me at the moment. When I first got my bike and was riding it to just be riding, it bothered me a lot, but shifting my weight around every few minutes and stopping at the redlights usually helped alleviate it. But for long rides or if I had a long commute, I would seriously consider getting another seat.

nb

CodE-E · May 2nd, 2009, 03:24 AM

After riding for several hours, I always find myself having to shift my behind around a bit on the seat. I've got more aches in my back and my shifting hand, though. But I'm only riding for 2 weeks now, so I guess I'm going to get used to it.

CC Cowboy · May 2nd, 2009, 07:41 AM

I'm going to be riding all day today. I find that if you just keep riding your butt adjusts to the seat and you get used to it. I'm trying to get as many full days in before a 5000 miles trip at the end of June.

darkknight49 · May 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM

yea, that seat is pretty uncomfortable. But i don't have enough money to get a corbin.

Mista Bob · May 3rd, 2009, 12:06 AM

You guys should try the seat on my DR650.
Would make the seat on your 250's seem like a sofa.

TrueFaith · May 3rd, 2009, 07:04 AM

I have a Corbin. It's much better than stock, but like Tim says it's still not perfect. CC Cowboy (in another thread long ago) suggested you should always be riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs (instead of your instep) for better control and I find this has helped me from sliding forward on either seat as it raises your knees a bit.

BlueRaven · May 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM

I finally got my bike back today. My butt's in heaven. It's so comfy. I forgot to ask what type of foam he use as he is not open on sundays but when i was first there he showed me a white not yellowish type of foam with compressed easily. He took the hard foam off up to about 3/4 of the way and put this 1" of this softer foam so it lowered me on the bike now all i need is to get new dogbone(lowering links) to have my feet flat on the ground. Hopefully i wont need to go over an 1". I'm happy with the results and all for $40 CDN. I was referred this uphulstery place from a bike shop.

Viper-Byte · May 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM

I don't find the seat hard, just badly shaped, I don't like my little guys getting crushed into a hard surface...

CC Cowboy · May 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM

I did another 5 1/2 hours today. Does this seat make my butt look big? Actually my wrist has been hurting more than my butt. Everything is getting easier though.

BlueRaven, I'm having a hard time reading your posts. I am glad your butt is in heaven though.

BlueRaven · May 3rd, 2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

BlueRaven, I'm having a hard timereading your posts. I am glad your butt is in heaven though.

must be a french thing.

April 28th, 2009, 01:32 PM	#1
gizmogamez ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE Green Posts: 217	do you find the seat hard? I've noticed that compaired to my 2000 zzr250 the new seat makes my butt hurt and fall asleep much faster. I used to do 2 hour rides with very little problem, but now after 30-40min I find I need a 2 min break and walk around. Anyone else find this? does the seat get softer with time? could i look at getting a gel seat or something like that????

April 28th, 2009, 01:47 PM	#3
SpyderGirl 3 for street, 2 for dirt Name: Katlyn Location: San Francisco Bay Area (California) Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Can Am Spyder PE #1344 / 2009 Kawi KLX140L Monster Energy / 2009 Kawi Ninja 250R (RIP 8.23.09) Posts: 586	My commute is 40 miles in traffic... so well over a hour on the bike -- no problems here. __________________________________________________ Feel free to look me up on facebook.

April 28th, 2009, 03:14 PM	#6
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	At first I found the seat very hard, but I've gotten used to it. I can usually ride for about 90 minutes before I need to hop off and stretch my legs for a bit. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

April 29th, 2009, 05:40 AM	#8
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I find the more you ride the more you get used to the bike you're riding. If you can't ride for that long get a Corbin seat. If you want to experience a terrible seat and hard riding bike try a Harley Cafe. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 1st, 2009, 04:44 PM	#9
Purspeed ninjette.org guru Name: Purspeed Location: Los Angeles, CA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	Try putting your weight on the pegs and tightening your stomach when riding. This will remove most weight off of your behind but will take a bit of practice. It's the proper way to ride, in fact. __________________________________________________ "This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008)

April 28th, 2009, 01:34 PM	#2
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I have an 05 and it takes about an hour for the seat to start feeling hard. At that point I pull over and stretch abit.

April 28th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#4
Mista Bob Über n00b Name: Bob Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Triumph TT600, Honda NS50F, Kawasaki ZZR-250 (sold) Posts: 225	Yeah that's one of the first things I noticed on the new 250 compared to my ZZR 250. The seat is much harder, doesn't seem as comfy but I personally like the sitting position better. You could look into a Corbin seat for it I suppose. http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kn250r8f.shtml

April 28th, 2009, 02:52 PM	#5
mcteague ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Maryland Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Yamaha FZ6 Posts: 117	Actually I think the foam is soft. It easily compresses and then you just feel the hard seat pan. The stock seat is garbage IMO. It also pushes you forward onto your crotch. The Corbin is much better but still not great. Tim

April 29th, 2009, 05:19 AM	#7
gizmogamez ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE Green Posts: 217	thx everyone

May 1st, 2009, 08:23 PM	#10
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	the seat is softer than the corbin is. but as everybody knows, the stock seat slides you forward and crushes your nuts. i found myself always having to push myself back. if i had to choose between the two, i like my corbin better. wider base and more supportive... plus it doesn't slide you forward.

May 1st, 2009, 08:27 PM	#11
Apex Livin' the Minimoto Life Name: Mark Location: Riding around in TX Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.	My hind quarters starts hurting after about 2 hours of riding. Once it reaches that point, it just plain hurts, no matter how much I stretch. I can stretch for a solid 5-10 minutes, but that isn't enough. I need more padding back there. __________________________________________________ --- My IG Page --- My FB page! --- 2022 Honda Navi && 2018 Z-125 Pro

May 1st, 2009, 08:29 PM	#12
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	i'm having my seat redone and replacing the factory foam with softer foam. to my surprise the upholserer told me that gel would be too hard as i have a bony butt. i have a very thick gel set on my mtn bike and it feels wonderful but it hurts after a while, maybe the squishy feeling was a false sense of softeness. he's shaving all the foam off in my sitting area and putting an inch of this softer foam so it will also help lower me on the bike which i desperately need. he's only charging me $40 and all the bikers go to him. will see how this works out if not well i'll suck it up and buy the corbin.

May 1st, 2009, 08:36 PM	#14
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	i'll ask him what type of foam he used too.

May 1st, 2009, 08:42 PM	#15
Apex Livin' the Minimoto Life Name: Mark Location: Riding around in TX Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.	I appreciate it! __________________________________________________ --- My IG Page --- My FB page! --- 2022 Honda Navi && 2018 Z-125 Pro

May 1st, 2009, 10:08 PM	#16
ninjabrewer dirty old man Name: Chris Location: Hazel Green, AL Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	yes... but my commute is only about 20 min or so, so it doesn't bother me at the moment. When I first got my bike and was riding it to just be riding, it bothered me a lot, but shifting my weight around every few minutes and stopping at the redlights usually helped alleviate it. But for long rides or if I had a long commute, I would seriously consider getting another seat. nb __________________________________________________ Death tugs at my ear and says, "Live, I am coming." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) www.friendsofsanonofre.org

May 2nd, 2009, 03:24 AM	#17
CodE-E Ninja Newbie Name: Ben Location: Austria Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): EX250K9 Posts: 126	After riding for several hours, I always find myself having to shift my behind around a bit on the seat. I've got more aches in my back and my shifting hand, though. But I'm only riding for 2 weeks now, so I guess I'm going to get used to it.

May 2nd, 2009, 07:41 AM	#18
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I'm going to be riding all day today. I find that if you just keep riding your butt adjusts to the seat and you get used to it. I'm trying to get as many full days in before a 5000 miles trip at the end of June. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM	#19
darkknight49 ninjette.org member Name: Faiyaz Location: Davis, Ca Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Black 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 70	yea, that seat is pretty uncomfortable. But i don't have enough money to get a corbin. __________________________________________________ 2008 Ninja 250 - Yoshi Exhaust, Brake Light Modulator, HID Kit To Come: Sliders, Fender Elim, Flush Mounts, Hugger (much later...no $ )

May 3rd, 2009, 12:06 AM	#20
Mista Bob Über n00b Name: Bob Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Triumph TT600, Honda NS50F, Kawasaki ZZR-250 (sold) Posts: 225	You guys should try the seat on my DR650. Would make the seat on your 250's seem like a sofa.

May 3rd, 2009, 07:04 AM	#21
TrueFaith ninjette.org sage Name: Wayne Location: Brookfield, MA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Honda CBR250R Posts: 585	I have a Corbin. It's much better than stock, but like Tim says it's still not perfect. CC Cowboy (in another thread long ago) suggested you should always be riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs (instead of your instep) for better control and I find this has helped me from sliding forward on either seat as it raises your knees a bit.

May 3rd, 2009, 03:17 PM	#22
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	I finally got my bike back today. My butt's in heaven. It's so comfy. I forgot to ask what type of foam he use as he is not open on sundays but when i was first there he showed me a white not yellowish type of foam with compressed easily. He took the hard foam off up to about 3/4 of the way and put this 1" of this softer foam so it lowered me on the bike now all i need is to get new dogbone(lowering links) to have my feet flat on the ground. Hopefully i wont need to go over an 1". I'm happy with the results and all for $40 CDN. I was referred this uphulstery place from a bike shop.

May 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM	#23
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	I don't find the seat hard, just badly shaped, I don't like my little guys getting crushed into a hard surface... __________________________________________________ 2008 GREEN Kawasaki Ninja 250R. AreaP Quiet Core Carbon Fibre : 8000k HIDs : Dynojet Jet kit : Double Bubble Windscreen

May 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM	#24
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I did another 5 1/2 hours today. Does this seat make my butt look big? Actually my wrist has been hurting more than my butt. Everything is getting easier though. BlueRaven, I'm having a hard time reading your posts. I am glad your butt is in heaven though. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

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