R6 Shock?

Triple R · July 8th, 2014, 11:21 PM

Has anyone tried or had luck with a 06+ R6 shock on the 08+ 250?

subxero · July 9th, 2014, 05:51 AM

don't know many details but off the bat I don't think the bikes use the same lower linkage mount. I think the R6 is the type that goes inbetween the linkage and not the "U" shaped type that the 250 and gsxr shocks use. So that being said you would have to do a lot of additional swapping ect... to make it work and why?

GSXR shock for $25 on ebay, it is as easy as buying some bolts and drilling a few holes, don't make it harder than it has to be IMO

Triple R · July 9th, 2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by subxero

don't know many details but off the bat I don't think the bikes use the same lower linkage mount. I think the R6 is the type that goes inbetween the linkage and not the "U" shaped type that the 250 and gsxr shocks use. So that being said you would have to do a lot of additional swapping ect... to make it work and why?

GSXR shock for $25 on ebay, it is as easy as buying some bolts and drilling a few holes, don't make it harder than it has to be IMO

I hear what you're saying. I have a R6 shock here and would attempt the swap if anyone had positive results. Looks like I'm going the GSXR route. Curious, does anyone make/sell a "clevis" for the gsxr shock to compensate for the shorter length of the shock? I swear I saw something like that on here not to long ago.

Thanks for the help!

subxero · July 9th, 2014, 10:06 AM

you want shorter dog bones. You can make your own out of steel or T6 or fork out some cash and buy some. Burkhart cycles or something like that sells them specifically for the gsxr shock swap and a reasonable price.

see here (just don't expect any contact from him or to get it on short notice) but you will get them

http://burkhartcycle.com/store/index...dex&cPath=7_34

Triple R · July 9th, 2014, 10:10 AM

I would go that route but the class I'm racing in doesn't allow aftermarket dog bones unfortunately.

InvisiBill · July 9th, 2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple R

I would go that route but the class I'm racing in doesn't allow aftermarket dog bones unfortunately.

So you can install a completely different shock that alters everything about the suspension, but you can't install a couple metal spacers to adjust the suspension back closer to stock alignment?

Some racing rules are so stupid...

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Originally Posted by InvisiBill

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Originally Posted by ForceofWill

So the +1.25 look right at 156mm middle of eye to eye and the +1 look like 158.5mm to me.

FYI, the 39111-1133 dogbones used on the Gen2 EX500 are 157.5mm eye to eye. A lot of EX500 owners buy shorter dogbones from FOG to raise the rear end for quicker steering (similar to the topic of this thread), so you might be able to find some for cheap/free (though $17 still isn't bad). Both the 250 and 500 use the same sleeves through the knuckle and swingarm, but the 500 uses 100mm long bolts (92002-1886) while the 250's are 98mm (92153-1831), so the 500 dogbones might possibly be a bit thicker or something.

Does OEM for a slightly different bike count as aftermarket? Would they even be able to tell (if your own ethics allow you to do this)?

alex.s · July 9th, 2014, 11:24 AM

i use an R1 shock and knuckle with custom bones. the r6 shock is the same but the knuckle is different. i think you gotta use the r1 knuck.

alex.s · July 9th, 2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by InvisiBill

So you can install a completely different shock that alters everything about the suspension, but you can't install a couple metal spacers to adjust the suspension back closer to stock alignment?

Some racing rules are so stupid...

Does OEM for a slightly different bike count as aftermarket? Would they even be able to tell (if your own ethics allow you to do this)?

the idea is that if you have to replace the shock with a "drop-in" then people will likely get an aftermarket kit made for the bike so that a "real engineer" produced the design instead of some knucklehead just trying to slap on whatever fits.

Triple R · July 9th, 2014, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisiBill

So you can install a completely different shock that alters everything about the suspension, but you can't install a couple metal spacers to adjust the suspension back closer to stock alignment?

Some racing rules are so stupid...

Does OEM for a slightly different bike count as aftermarket? Would they even be able to tell (if your own ethics allow you to do this)?

I agree it's stupid but I have to follow them. Granted I probably wont podium or even place top 10 but I just want to be legit. If you guys can recall the guy making the "clevis" type top mount please let me know!

tuscani451 · July 9th, 2014, 11:54 AM

I think one of the CVMA guys said a R6+SV dogbones works?

alex.s · July 9th, 2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tuscani451

I think one of the CVMA guys said a R6+SV dogbones works?

the yamaha shocks have a bearing at the bottom instead of the way suzuki/kawi do it with the bottom of the shock having a square mount that fits over the shock knuckle which has a bearing in it. so if you want to go to the yamaha shock you have to change the knuckle to the r1-style knuckle

July 8th, 2014, 11:21 PM	#1
Triple R ninjette.org member Name: D.Doan Location: Shark City Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki's Posts: 40	R6 Shock? Has anyone tried or had luck with a 06+ R6 shock on the 08+ 250?

July 9th, 2014, 05:51 AM	#2
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	don't know many details but off the bat I don't think the bikes use the same lower linkage mount. I think the R6 is the type that goes inbetween the linkage and not the "U" shaped type that the 250 and gsxr shocks use. So that being said you would have to do a lot of additional swapping ect... to make it work and why? GSXR shock for $25 on ebay, it is as easy as buying some bolts and drilling a few holes, don't make it harder than it has to be IMO __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.
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July 9th, 2014, 10:06 AM	#4
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	you want shorter dog bones. You can make your own out of steel or T6 or fork out some cash and buy some. Burkhart cycles or something like that sells them specifically for the gsxr shock swap and a reasonable price. see here (just don't expect any contact from him or to get it on short notice) but you will get them http://burkhartcycle.com/store/index...dex&cPath=7_34 __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

July 9th, 2014, 11:24 AM	#7
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i use an R1 shock and knuckle with custom bones. the r6 shock is the same but the knuckle is different. i think you gotta use the r1 knuck. __________________________________________________

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Triple R ninjette.org member Name: D.Doan Location: Shark City Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki's Posts: 40	I would go that route but the class I'm racing in doesn't allow aftermarket dog bones unfortunately.

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