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July 29th, 2011, 01:57 PM | #82 |
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colonel sanders seems to speak the truth. i would hate to see social security decline when the top 1% pay so little relative taxes. it's unfortunate how much influence money has on our government. though in terms of spending elsewhere... there are a lot of programs that seem pretty useless to me. in terms of how good something is for our country, there are a lot larger targets than things like social security.
i saw that movie "inside job" recently about the 2008 subprime fiasco... it made me want to throw up.
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I have no problems with safety nets but I do have a problem with entitlement thinking. We have become a society or Corporate and entitlement thieves. http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-04-25/ob...a-corporatist/ Prime example - http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/2...-any-us-taxes/ |
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July 29th, 2011, 02:33 PM | #84 |
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Just an FYI
the top 1% pays 38% of the taxes in this country The top 5% of income earners pays almost 60%
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July 29th, 2011, 02:44 PM | #85 | |
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I have family members that make descent money and pay no taxes due to EITC and Child Tax credits. They actually get back more than they have had deducted. 47% of Americans actually pay no taxes at all. |
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July 29th, 2011, 02:49 PM | #86 | |
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Better yet. NO Income tax and a national 1 or 2 % sales tax. That way EVERYONE pays. EVERYONE then has some "skin in the game"
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July 29th, 2011, 03:39 PM | #87 |
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July 29th, 2011, 04:23 PM | #88 |
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You guys must really hate roads, the police, medicare, public education, and pretty much all government services and entities huh?
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July 30th, 2011, 09:28 AM | #91 |
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Ill give Ron Paul Kudo's for voting NO yesterday.
One of 22 who "get it" in my opinion.
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Percentage is the definition of relative. If the percentage changes as the amount it applies to goes up, it's a sliding scale and the very opposite of relative. It's a common misconception that they pay a lower percentage perpetuated by those with a "spread the wealth" mentality. One only has to fill out their yearly 1040EZ to see that the percentage increases as the income does.* Yes, there are numerous ways they and we can evade certain taxes, but that doesn't negate the basic fact that potential wealth is incentive to succeed. Take that and spread it around and you have a culture of "why bother" do-nothings with no economy worth taxing.
*I've never made more than 2X,000 a year in my life and yet I've bordered on certain tax brackets that make the difference between owing more or getting a refund almost every year ("Aww man! I made $32 too much No I gotta pay more than they already withheld."). Not that those paying taxes on corporate gains taxes are using the same form, but it isn't a comparable form of income either (it's mostly all still invested and imminently more likely to disappear on the market's whim). Once again, they undeniably pay far more taxes than we do as a percentage or our entire economy. |
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uhhhh yes.
If you make 100K and are single you will pay roughly 25K to the fed. After deductions If you make 40K, more than likely you will pay 8-10% if you have no children and take the standard deductions. You will get more back than you paid in federal taxes if you have kids. (EIC credit) Thats not counting FICA, medicare, or your state taxes. Believe the "rich dont pay enough or there fair share" if you please. Its not the truth. That line is out there for those who have no understanding of the tax code or how it works. Thats millions and millions of people, who every year, pay someone to loan them money against the tax return just filed for them. (For a percentage of course) Thats so nutty IMO....... But every year at tax time those "loan shark" tax prep operations pop up like sprinklers in the summer. Wonder why??? lol
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Is this where I step in?
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I coudlnt resist lol
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I Know. lol
Ive been trying to hold MYSELF back.
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July 31st, 2011, 05:59 PM | #101 |
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No need to jump in, this is us basically.
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August 1st, 2011, 06:18 AM | #102 |
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I'll be voting for Ron Paul again this year, regardless of his being on the ballot or not.
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August 1st, 2011, 07:13 AM | #103 |
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No, it's that you're still naive enough and don't possibly have the life experience some of the others do to leave your blinders on. Plus, HATE, is extreme verbage. Peace Out!
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He still cant win. He cant raise the money required. If only he wasnt such an isolationist on national defense. If only he could understand that we do need a strong military. I would consider him the front runner. If only........
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August 16th, 2011, 11:39 AM | #107 |
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This is a joke right??
Can you speak chinese??
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August 16th, 2011, 11:54 AM | #108 |
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does canada speak chinese? how about mexico? i'm so confused by the view that we have to be invading other people in order for us to not be invaded
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Im so confused by your logic.
The only "invasion" I recall in recent memory was Iraq and that served a very strategic purpose. If you think we as a country can just sit here in our own little space and survive, you are mistaken. Strategic interest need to be protected and defended. Allies need to be protected and defended. We as a people need to be protected and defended. That requires overseas militatary action in some cases. That requires a strong national defense. A strong military so to speak. Weak countries get invaded. Happens all the time. They get invaded, overrun, and then conqured. Ya think China would disarm if we disarm?? How about Russia, Iran or any other number of countries that would love to see the western world disappear. Did we forget 9/11 already?
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That's the face I made when I read that. Now it's stuck that way.
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So, let me get this straight: Some of you actually believe that if we put down our arms and stop policing the world, then overnight all will be forgotten and America will be loved?
I'm all for reducing our policing of the world. But I agree with Kevin. We need a strong defense. The key word being defense.
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Ron Paul does not want to weaken the Military. He just does not want blood shed unless it is to defend the Constitution of the United States.
This to my understanding is what Ron Paul supports - I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. |
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Thanks for posting and showing the disrespect he is getting. He is not some crazy uncle but he is right! |
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Those aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
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