September 30th, 2013, 03:04 PM | #1 |
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Self Coaching?
Do you guys self coach when you are riding? What kinds of things do you correct in your own riding? How does self coaching work out for you?
Misti
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September 30th, 2013, 03:12 PM | #2 |
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for me, its basically two questions.
first question: am i wide open throttle in the power band? if no, why not? what is stopping you? is it your mind? is it your traction? identify what is keeping you from rolling on the throttle. second question: am i struggling to stay on track at the exit of each corner? no: go faster. yes: why? this is the harder question to answer. if you understand what you are doing that leads to the result you don't want, you can typically look at your options before that to see what you could have changed to get a different result. exit too wide? can you take a later apex? are you going in too fast? starting too narrow or wide? everything i do to better myself starts by identifying a mistake that i have made. once the mistake is identified, you can plan alternatives. once you have a plan for alternatives, you can try them out and see how they go.
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September 30th, 2013, 03:21 PM | #3 |
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Not as much as I should, why? Cause I may wind myself in some bushes or worse. I do try to correct any problems I spot in my riding, why? I don't wanna go off through no bushes or worse.
I hope to make it to a track school or twelve one day
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October 1st, 2013, 05:07 AM | #4 |
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Every time I ride. Every single time.
Be smoother with shifts and throttle (that transition from off to on kicks my butt a lot). Work on body position. Work on line selection and vision. Mentally go through/plan for the next corner before I get there. Get a feeling for how much I can push (a comfort limit thing… intellectually I know the bike can do MUCH more than I ask of it but you need to learn to trust it). and on and on… That's what riding is to me. Constantly working to perfect the art, thinking about it all the time. And taking pleasure when you do it right. I never just zone out. Riding is a very active thing for me, mentally.
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October 1st, 2013, 02:10 PM | #5 | |
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October 1st, 2013, 08:25 PM | #6 |
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Only one thing at any given moment.
I have a background in aviation (I'm an instrument-rated pilot) and a lot of what I did in the cockpit was task management. You focus on one thing at a time. "Multitasking" is a myth. Humans are good at serial unitasking and switching quickly… but the fact is that you really can focus fully on only one thing at a time. The thing in the center of your attention takes priority, while other tasks are given less-than-full attention. I use this all the time at work. The moment someone I'm talking to looks down at their phone, I stop talking… even in mid-sentence. Quite often, they don't even notice that the "conversation" has stopped for a moment. So, approaching a corner, it becomes a series of tasks. The "coaching" bit comes from visualization before I ever get there… the intent, say, to really focus on getting a smooth transition this time.
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October 2nd, 2013, 04:00 AM | #7 |
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Using a camera helps a ton when self coaching. You can take the bias out of your memories from what you intended to do and see what you actually did.
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October 2nd, 2013, 05:21 AM | #8 |
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Yeah, GoPros tempt me not because I want to take Yet Another Endless Movie About The Road In Front Of Me (yawn), but because I want to see things like my suspension working and my body position.
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October 7th, 2013, 10:51 AM | #9 | |
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I think self-coaching can only take you so far as well. It doesn't matter how good of a rider you are, or how well you understand riding technique, you will get to a point where you need another set of eyes to help you improve. I was racing an AMA Supersport race at Barber Motorsport Park and needed to drop at least a second before I could even qualify for the event but I couldn't figure out why I was sucking so badly in turn 1. Thankfully for me there was another CSS coach there who took the time to work with me through the turn and together we figured out what the problem was. I simply couldn't see what I was doing wrong. Yes, you can see exactly what you are doing- almost as if it was from the eyes of a coach. Sometimes I'll show my students a photo of them mid corner so they can see exactly what I see. And we use the camera review bike in our 2-day camps for that very reason too.
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October 7th, 2013, 11:01 AM | #10 |
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thinking about it, racing improved my riding the most. its easy to see what you do wrong... when you make a mistake, a few bikes fly by you doing the correct thing.
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October 7th, 2013, 07:35 PM | #11 |
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Excellent posts! I also think about what I'm doing all the time while riding and strive to ride as smoothly and efficiently as possible. For hypermiling it's all about looking as far ahead as possible , conserving momentum and using as little throttle and braking as possible to achieve your target speed while cruising. This also means maintaining a high cornering speed so that you don't use too energy in braking and then re-accelerating. Its the same discipline you would use in racing only your goal is obviously different.
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October 8th, 2013, 12:23 AM | #12 |
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I definitely think about how I can fix my riding when I make a mistake or do something that just didn't feel quite right. If I could have a more experienced rider watch and correct me though, that would be even better. Partially why I want to go to the track again
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October 8th, 2013, 09:23 PM | #13 |
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I started self coaching in the forum, a few minutes ago... No more thumbs down for me unless they are on purpose
I found out tonight that I self coach on the road as well... Also that I need a better coach. Parents would take all their kids away from me if I was a coach :/ lots of bleeps and not so many positives in my coaching style
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October 9th, 2013, 09:24 AM | #14 |
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My self-coach sounds like this guy.
Link to original page on YouTube.
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October 17th, 2013, 09:53 AM | #15 | |
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October 17th, 2013, 01:40 PM | #17 |
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I usually have the guy with the flashing lights and the camera on his dash tell me what I'm doing wrong. I don't usually agree with him but he is entitled to his opinion.
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October 17th, 2013, 02:12 PM | #18 |
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I got to talk to him a few days ago, but I was in a store, he gave me a ride in his car
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