Pirelli Diablo Rosso II Tires - Page 5

akima · March 25th, 2012, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

I was looking at motorcycle-superstore.com cause they have a sale right now, anyways, they have a 110/70R and a 110/70ZR. What's the difference plus, the rear tire they have is 140/70HR would that also work. Do the letters after the #'s matter?

The rear tyre you've found must be the correct tyre, because they only do one 140/70 option. The front tyre... not so sure about that, as there are too options to choose from: the ZR and the R. source

I've sent a message to Pirelli asking them to clarify the difference. I'll post their response here.

Kstorm21 · March 25th, 2012, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

The rear tyre you've found must be the correct tyre, because they only do one 140/70 option. The front tyre... not so sure about that, as there are too options to choose from: the ZR and the R. source

I've sent a message to Pirelli asking them to clarify the difference. I'll post their response here.

Thanks! You're awesome!

akima · March 25th, 2012, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter

max speed rating, the lower is good for like 130mph

Ah. I found this table on wikipedia. It says R is good for 106MPH and Z is good for over 149MPH. So if one tyre is R then it makes sense that tyre can do 106, but if the other tyre is ZR... wtf does that mean??

Edit: Oh!! Pirelli have a table on their own website that explains the ratings:

So the "110/70 R 17 M/C 54H TL" tyre should be fine. It has a speed rating of up to 105MPH. That's fine for the ninjette. The ZR tyre must be for much faster bikes.

Kstorm21 · March 25th, 2012, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Ah. I found this table on wikipedia. It says R is good for 106MPH and Z is good for over 149MPH. So if one tyre is R then it makes sense that tyre can do 106, but if the other tyre is ZR... wtf does that mean??

Edit: Oh!! Pirelli have a table on their own website that explains the ratings:

So the "110/70 R 17 M/C 54H TL" tyre should be fine. It has a speed rating of up to 105MPH. That's fine for the ninjette. The ZR tyre must be for much faster bikes.

Well, I don't ever plan on going that fast so I guess that'll be fine.

Thanks for the info.

akima · March 25th, 2012, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

Well, I don't ever plan on going that fast so I guess that'll be fine.

Thanks for the info.

No probs! I need to know this stuff too. I'll be getting a pair of these tyres just before summer begins ^-^

Kstorm21 · March 25th, 2012, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

No probs! I need to know this stuff too. I'll be getting a pair of these tyres just before summer begins ^-^

Well, if you have the money now (not sure if they will ship to you, cause they won't to me) motorcycle-superstore.com has them on sale. With the two in the cart I would save $118.

akima · March 25th, 2012, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

Well, if you have the money now (not sure if they will ship to you, cause they won't to me) motorcycle-superstore.com has them on sale. With the two in the cart I would save $118.

That's a shame for both of us. I just checked the site and they don't do international shipping. I should keep my eye out for an offer this spring, rather than get them at full price in the summer.

Kstorm21 · March 25th, 2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

That's a shame for both of us. I just checked the site and they don't do international shipping. I should keep my eye out for an offer this spring, rather than get them at full price in the summer.

hmm...who ships tires to Hawaii???

Gorilla25 · March 25th, 2012, 03:11 AM

im not sure if motorcycle superstore ships bulk items to HI. im planning on replacing my IRCs for better rubber. hopefully by summer. besides, my front tire has small sidewall cracks :/

Kstorm21 · March 25th, 2012, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla25

im not sure if motorcycle superstore ships bulk items to HI. im planning on replacing my IRCs for better rubber. hopefully by summer. besides, my front tire has small sidewall cracks :/

They don't...that what we've been discussing. They have a tire sale going on and I was seeing if they would...nope.

Gorilla25 · March 25th, 2012, 03:24 AM

thats what i thought

i was going to buy a stand from them a while back but they wont ship to HI.

NDspd · March 25th, 2012, 06:35 AM

Don't worry guys, I'm gonna give those two companies a call tomorrow and see if there is a problem. I'll keep you guys updated.

Rexbo · March 25th, 2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDspd

Don't worry guys, I'm gonna give those two companies a call tomorrow and see if there is a problem. I'll keep you guys updated.

Here's what my tires look like after race weekend:

Front:

Rear:

Don't know what could be goin on with NDspd's tires... strange

NDspd · March 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM

yeah, I've seen plenty of those...

00NissanNinja · March 25th, 2012, 10:03 PM

Here's my rear tire after a mild track day:

IMG_20120325_133527.jpg

So they don't look abnormal. I think @NDspd you might try messing with your tire pressures a bit and see if that helps. I think I was running stock pressures today.

Also these tires are awesome on the track. I didn't want to push too hard since they are new but they grip so well. I could brake harder, turn faster, and get back on the power without worry. Even when I botched up downshifts the rear didn't get to wiggly. I even dragged knee for a good 15-20ft on a corner when I normally only touch down for maybe 10 on this long sweeper corner. I had to cut the day short since my friend went down so I helped him out; I never expected to see him to go down.

NDspd · March 26th, 2012, 04:31 AM

@00NissanNinja Yeah I've pushed my tires hard before on an abandoned track before.

So here's an update y'all: I took my 250 for a good long ride on the highway, in the country and the city. I eventually ended at the abandoned track, jumped up really quick and felt the tire for any weird temps. They both were relatively warm and sticky, but I didn't see any of the weird signs of wear at all.

So who knows, maybe it was the combination of riding at 80 mph for 160 miles, while occasionally getting a little rain. Or the fact it was a nearly straight highway, it only heated a tiny section of the tire, causing some kind of cold ripping when I jumped into town. The heated rubber would accumulate at the center since where there is more centrifugal force, and once I slowed down the soft rubber that wore off over the 160 miles gummed up after cooling......ok enough of my brainstorming session. I'm still gonna call pirelli.

streetsquid · March 27th, 2012, 05:28 AM

i am getting mine mounted today and cant wait to ride them,,i was never a big fan of the stock ones

NDspd · March 27th, 2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by streetsquid

i am getting mine mounted today and cant wait to ride them,,i was never a big fan of the stock ones

Great man, have fun. Let them scrub in for about 50 miles before doing too much lean.

streetsquid · March 30th, 2012, 03:47 AM

There mounted and on the bike. And they look good. Now I just have to wait for the north east weather to warm up some

LoD575 · March 30th, 2012, 05:11 PM

I am finally having them mounted on April 2 now that the dealer is off winter hours. Weather forecast is high of 64 with few showers and 30mph winds.

Still will be a good day to ride.

NDspd · March 30th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoD575

I am finally having them mounted on April 2 now that the dealer is off winter hours. Weather forecast is high of 64 with few showers and 30mph winds.

Still will be a good day to ride.

Great!! Sounds like an awesome day to me.

MikeBudd · March 30th, 2012, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoD575

I am finally having them mounted on April 2 now that the dealer is off winter hours. Weather forecast is high of 64 with few showers and 30mph winds.

Still will be a good day to ride.

I should be getting mine April 2nd! I should have them mounted that day as well!

Steven250R · April 16th, 2012, 01:24 PM

Anybody have the 150/60/17 in the rear? I know some companies make their tires different in size i was wondering if this size would be alright?

Bols · April 16th, 2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven250R

Anybody have the 150/60/17 in the rear? I know some companies make their tires different in size i was wondering if this size would be alright?

I have the Rosso I in that size, not sure about the Rosso II tho, but i guess they would be fine. But the Rosso II come in 140/70, which is probably better handling wise

Steven250R · April 16th, 2012, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bols

I have the Rosso I in that size, not sure about the Rosso II tho, but i guess they would be fine. But the Rosso II come in 140/70, which is probably better handling wise

Awesome, are you running a 110 or 120 in the front?

Also as far as the rear did you have the pinched sidewall causing it to wear funny? How many miles have you put on your rosso I?

Bols · April 16th, 2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven250R

Awesome, are you running a 110 or 120 in the front?

Also as far as the rear did you have the pinched sidewall causing it to wear funny? How many miles have you put on your rosso I?

I have the 120/60 front. The sidewall is not much pinched. I have about 5k km on them so far, and no signs of funny wear. I did notice a slight difference in the way the bike leans over. So for my next set, i will probably go with the 110/70 and 140/70 now that it's available. The Rosso I's were only available in 120/60 and 150/60 as the smallest size, so that's why i went with them, not for the looks

Rexbo · April 16th, 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDspd

Great man, have fun. Let them scrub in for about 50 miles before doing too much lean.

I mounted them at the track, set them on the warmers for about a half hour, and was dragging knee first lap out. Don't need to worry about scrubbing in on modern tires anymore if you've got them up to temp

NDspd · April 16th, 2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexbo

I mounted them at the track, set them on the warmers for about a half hour, and was dragging knee first lap out. Don't need to worry about scrubbing in on modern tires anymore if you've got them up to temp

Great man, glad they are working well for ya.

TnNinjaGirl · April 16th, 2012, 06:02 PM

I've put about 200 miles on the Rosso II's so far. OMG... That's really all I can say. It's like a completely different bike. Turns in better, grips better. More confidence. Wish I would have switched sooner. I will see how many miles I get out of them, but if I can get at least 3k, these will be the only tires that will be going on my bike from now on.

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

I've put about 200 miles on the Rosso II's so far. OMG... That's really all I can say. It's like a completely different bike. Turns in better, grips better. More confidence. Wish I would have switched sooner. I will see how many miles I get out of them, but if I can get at least 3k, these will be the only tires that will be going on my bike from now on.

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these, tell me more. Did you notice a difference right away or did it take some time?

TnNinjaGirl · April 16th, 2012, 06:27 PM

@BlackNinja8

I noticed a difference right away. I forgot to mention the braking feels much better too. More controlled, shorter stopping distances. I went easy for about 50 miles to "scrub in" the tires but I feel very confident on them now. I'm very happy with my purchase. I ride aggressively on the street. If you ride tame or just piddle around I'm not sure they are the best tire. They do make it feel more... I don't want to say squirrely, but the bike does want to turn in much easier.

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 06:34 PM

@TnNinjaGirl - Thanks thats good info. I do ride aggresively at times, but most of the time I am commuting and cruising. Though my commute is more of a Saturday morning ride than a typical commute - 10 minutes Interstate 30 minutes windy back country roads.

NDspd · April 16th, 2012, 07:51 PM

With the 3,000 miles I've put on the DRII's I still have quite a bit of life left I'm thinking at least 6,000 miles are left in them.

I also can't say enough on their performance...just wow...

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:07 PM

@BlackNinja8 buy them. Sticky tires rock. Sticky tires with great reviews that rock are even better.

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

@BlackNinja8 buy them. Sticky tires rock. Sticky tires with great reviews that rock are even better.

Lol I was on MSS about to do it but TnNinjaGirl sent me back to the web for more due diligence when she called them squirrely. I don't even know what that means, but I don't want to think of my bike as a squirrel. Sorry @akima lol

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:34 PM

Squirrely just means a little nervous or easily influenced by the pavement at speed. Think 90's honda civic, or golf cart, just less extreme

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 08:47 PM

Got them in my revzilla cart waiting to push the button...I guess even if I'm the first person not to like them someone in here will take them off my hands at a slight discount...

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:49 PM

Go go GO GO GO GOGOGOGOGO!!!

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 08:56 PM

Done! Chone you should get a commission on that sale!

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 08:58 PM

I take paypal.

I really just like awesome tires on the 250. I see vroomvroom fun time in the twisties in your future NJ.

March 25th, 2012, 10:03 PM	#175
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Here's my rear tire after a mild track day: IMG_20120325_133527.jpg So they don't look abnormal. I think @NDspd you might try messing with your tire pressures a bit and see if that helps. I think I was running stock pressures today. Also these tires are awesome on the track. I didn't want to push too hard since they are new but they grip so well. I could brake harder, turn faster, and get back on the power without worry. Even when I botched up downshifts the rear didn't get to wiggly. I even dragged knee for a good 15-20ft on a corner when I normally only touch down for maybe 10 on this long sweeper corner. I had to cut the day short since my friend went down so I helped him out; I never expected to see him to go down. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

March 27th, 2012, 05:28 AM	#177
streetsquid ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: CT Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250,2005 suzuki drz400 supermoto,2005 cr150f supermoto,2009 klx 110,1998 Z-50 Posts: 44	i am getting mine mounted today and cant wait to ride them,,i was never a big fan of the stock ones __________________________________________________ SQUID-Rider who overestimates his abilities.And rides Really slow in the corners,and sudden bursts of acceleration when a straight appears.Squids wear no protection,an thinks there invincible.

March 30th, 2012, 03:47 AM	#179
streetsquid ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: CT Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250,2005 suzuki drz400 supermoto,2005 cr150f supermoto,2009 klx 110,1998 Z-50 Posts: 44	There mounted and on the bike. And they look good. Now I just have to wait for the north east weather to warm up some __________________________________________________ SQUID-Rider who overestimates his abilities.And rides Really slow in the corners,and sudden bursts of acceleration when a straight appears.Squids wear no protection,an thinks there invincible.

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March 25th, 2012, 03:11 AM	#169
Gorilla25 Dakine... Name: AJ Location: DFW Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R (Sold) \| 636 (hopefully soon) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5	im not sure if motorcycle superstore ships bulk items to HI. im planning on replacing my IRCs for better rubber. hopefully by summer. besides, my front tire has small sidewall cracks :/

March 25th, 2012, 03:24 AM	#171
Gorilla25 Dakine... Name: AJ Location: DFW Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R (Sold) \| 636 (hopefully soon) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5	thats what i thought i was going to buy a stand from them a while back but they wont ship to HI.

March 25th, 2012, 06:35 AM	#172
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Don't worry guys, I'm gonna give those two companies a call tomorrow and see if there is a problem. I'll keep you guys updated.

March 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM	#174
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	yeah, I've seen plenty of those...

March 26th, 2012, 04:31 AM	#176
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	@00NissanNinja Yeah I've pushed my tires hard before on an abandoned track before. So here's an update y'all: I took my 250 for a good long ride on the highway, in the country and the city. I eventually ended at the abandoned track, jumped up really quick and felt the tire for any weird temps. They both were relatively warm and sticky, but I didn't see any of the weird signs of wear at all. So who knows, maybe it was the combination of riding at 80 mph for 160 miles, while occasionally getting a little rain. Or the fact it was a nearly straight highway, it only heated a tiny section of the tire, causing some kind of cold ripping when I jumped into town. The heated rubber would accumulate at the center since where there is more centrifugal force, and once I slowed down the soft rubber that wore off over the 160 miles gummed up after cooling......ok enough of my brainstorming session. I'm still gonna call pirelli.

March 30th, 2012, 05:11 PM	#180
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	I am finally having them mounted on April 2 now that the dealer is off winter hours. Weather forecast is high of 64 with few showers and 30mph winds. Still will be a good day to ride.

April 16th, 2012, 01:24 PM	#183
Steven250R ninjette.org member Name: Steven Location: 925 Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 NINJA 250R Posts: 40	Anybody have the 150/60/17 in the rear? I know some companies make their tires different in size i was wondering if this size would be alright?

April 16th, 2012, 06:02 PM	#189
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	I've put about 200 miles on the Rosso II's so far. OMG... That's really all I can say. It's like a completely different bike. Turns in better, grips better. More confidence. Wish I would have switched sooner. I will see how many miles I get out of them, but if I can get at least 3k, these will be the only tires that will be going on my bike from now on.

April 16th, 2012, 06:27 PM	#191
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	@BlackNinja8 I noticed a difference right away. I forgot to mention the braking feels much better too. More controlled, shorter stopping distances. I went easy for about 50 miles to "scrub in" the tires but I feel very confident on them now. I'm very happy with my purchase. I ride aggressively on the street. If you ride tame or just piddle around I'm not sure they are the best tire. They do make it feel more... I don't want to say squirrely, but the bike does want to turn in much easier.

April 16th, 2012, 06:34 PM	#192
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	@TnNinjaGirl - Thanks thats good info. I do ride aggresively at times, but most of the time I am commuting and cruising. Though my commute is more of a Saturday morning ride than a typical commute - 10 minutes Interstate 30 minutes windy back country roads.

April 16th, 2012, 07:51 PM	#193
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	With the 3,000 miles I've put on the DRII's I still have quite a bit of life left I'm thinking at least 6,000 miles are left in them. I also can't say enough on their performance...just wow...

April 16th, 2012, 08:07 PM	#194
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	@BlackNinja8 buy them. Sticky tires rock. Sticky tires with great reviews that rock are even better.

April 16th, 2012, 08:34 PM	#196
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Squirrely just means a little nervous or easily influenced by the pavement at speed. Think 90's honda civic, or golf cart, just less extreme

April 16th, 2012, 08:47 PM	#197
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	Got them in my revzilla cart waiting to push the button...I guess even if I'm the first person not to like them someone in here will take them off my hands at a slight discount...

April 16th, 2012, 08:49 PM	#198
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Go go GO GO GO GOGOGOGOGO!!!

April 16th, 2012, 08:56 PM	#199
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	Done! Chone you should get a commission on that sale!

April 16th, 2012, 08:58 PM	#200
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I take paypal. I really just like awesome tires on the 250. I see vroomvroom fun time in the twisties in your future NJ.