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Old June 8th, 2014, 09:15 AM   #41
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back seat looks dinky; remove that b**** and make the boot bigger. Motorcycle designation = no required crash testing. Does that also mean people will have to get their M endorsement on a two wheeled vehicle or can they use this for a special 3-wheeled license?

Maybe more people taking the MSF course will mean more people will be aware of motorcyclists. One can hope.

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Old June 8th, 2014, 11:04 AM   #42
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in california i believe theres some rule where if it has a roll cage you dont need a helmet or an M endorsement
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Old June 8th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #43
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No thanks. Looks ridiculous and super cheap.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 02:28 PM   #44
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I think it looks good, but I think they need to go eclectic.
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Maybe not electric for the introductory model. Like I suggested in my first post, they already have a huge obstacle just getting this thing to market for around the price they've suggested and getting similar economy to what they've promised.

As a certain other electric based thread has suggested, there's some common (and convincing) misconceptions and inconveniences associated with electric vehicles right now. These include range, performance, charging, initial cost etc etc.

I think Elio is going to have enough challenges bringing this trike to market as promised, why throw electric into the mix for the first iteration? Maybe as a second model, electric could be feasible. As an entry to the market? I think electric would take this from a feasible second vehicle for suburbia or city-dwellers to a niche product with a big base of haters and I doubt they'd make it even close to their expected cost. Give it time and I'm right there with you; an electric driven Elio would be badass.

I personally would be thrilled if they could get this thing to market with 65 mpg highway, 50 city. IF (and that's a huge if) they can actually get the 85 like they're suggesting without making it unable to get out of its own way and overpriced, I'd be very impressed.
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Maybe not electric for the introductory model. Like I suggested in my first post, they already have a huge obstacle just getting this thing to market for around the price they've suggested and getting similar economy to what they've promised.

As a certain other electric based thread has suggested, there's some common (and convincing) misconceptions and inconveniences associated with electric vehicles right now. These include range, performance, charging, initial cost etc etc.

I think Elio is going to have enough challenges bringing this trike to market as promised, why throw electric into the mix for the first iteration? Maybe as a second model, electric could be feasible. As an entry to the market? I think electric would take this from a feasible second vehicle for suburbia or city-dwellers to a niche product with a big base of haters and I doubt they'd make it even close to their expected cost. Give it time and I'm right there with you; an electric driven Elio would be badass.

I personally would be thrilled if they could get this thing to market with 65 mpg highway, 50 city. IF (and that's a huge if) they can actually get the 85 like they're suggesting without making it unable to get out of its own way and overpriced, I'd be very impressed.
Smart can do that now for 12Gs and an electric option with a battery lease program.
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Smart can do that now for 12Gs and an electric option with a battery lease program.
Smart also is an established company with a consumer base and product history, not a start-up still looking for capital without a fully complete prototype. Right now the Elio prototype is just parts put together so that it runs, not an actual model of what they'll sell.

Apples and oranges.
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Smart also is an established company with a consumer base and product history, not a start-up still looking for capital without a fully complete prototype. Right now the Elio prototype is just parts put together so that it runs, not an actual model of what they'll sell.

Apples and oranges.

Very true, Smart has the Mercedes name behind them. I would like to see them cut the smart car's price in half "american made"
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GAWD I hope this happens. If they sell it next year, with the advertised price and mileage, I will buy one. You heard it here first!
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Still trying to figure out how I'm going to fit a Mtb inside that thing.
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Old June 28th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #54
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Still trying to figure out how I'm going to fit a Mtb inside that thing.
Would you consider a folder?

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you obviously don't know how hard I ride these things. With me riding a folding bike you could just go ahead and rename it the two piece bike because that the best way to describe it after I snap it in two
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Might not be safe for you, then. Mountain bikers do stuff that we commuters can not imagine doing. You might just have to resign yourself to needing four wheels to haul the other two. That Elio does not look rack-friendly.
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Might not be safe for you, then. Mountain bikers do stuff that we commuters can not imagine doing. You might just have to resign yourself to needing four wheels to haul the other two. That Elio does not look rack-friendly.
Nether does my ninjette but it manages

A rack isn't the problem, it's the fact that mounting anything outside this aero style car is going to kill that 80+ mpg.
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I like it, I mean, "all the envy of your street" is a little far fetched. But, I do think it looks cool and could serve a great purpose.. I mean, 80+ MPG, has a top speed of 100+, Manual & automatic, ABS, etc. etc. It's just another option.

Even if you don't like it, it will help competition, Maybe reduce prices of other entry level cars like the civic and corolla.
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I think it's a great step in the right direction for people moving. Ultimately, public transit is the answer for moving mass amounts of people around. But we all know people don't want to give up the "luxury" of driving to work in their own vehicles, so making those smaller and more fuel efficient is the next best thing.

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No thanks. Looks ridiculous and super cheap.
Way to be forward thinking.
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I think it's a great step in the right direction for people moving. Ultimately, public transit is the answer for moving mass amounts of people around. But we all know people don't want to give up the "luxury" of driving to work in their own vehicles, so making those smaller and more fuel efficient is the next best thing.



Way to be forward thinking.
Where I grew up there's enough scumbags getting shitfaced drunk and causing trouble, smoking weed, smoking heroin & shooting up on the buses, big eastern european security guards in bulletproof vests on the trains and trams to throw the scumbags off & there are still needles found in the seats.

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I suppose it does depend on your locale.
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The Deltawing has been a total disaster as a racing car. I don't think they have yet finished a race.
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it completed a few races.
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I'm a little embarrassed to admit how interested in this I am. I don't want to be the first one though.... afraid to buy it and then watch them file bankruptcy.
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It'll make it worth way more then!..?
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Basically a Ford festival 3cyl , made to look new. Shiney , you can shine a turd and its still a turd

hmmm new car for 6800. thats very affordable though.

but if i spend 15000 can I get a new compact car with twice the seating and twice the capacity.

I don't mind the fuel milage though. but imagine getting T boned in that tub.

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Since it is classified as a motorcycle, what about states that require the use of helmets?
Will you be required to wear a helmet while driving this in the states with helmet laws?
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Will you be required to wear a helmet while driving this in the states with helmet laws?
I read somewhere else that they petitioned the EPA to classify it as a car. I classify it as vaporware.
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No thanks, I'll stick to this at 70mpg
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They are rated at 40 mpg here.
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They said it would be coming in 2015, any new info on if this is true? For under 7 grand I would be a potential buyer.
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If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't.

The Elio offers a lot at a very low price. I wish I could believe that this vehicle will come to the marketplace but unfortunately it looks like another sales job to get investors' money and buyer's deposits and then go belly up without ever delivering a product to buyers.

What Elio claims as far as performance is definitely doable but I don't see how they could make enough money to build the cars and sustain their company. Tesla has been successful but look at the prices of their products.
It just sounds like more DeLorean style snakeoil to me.
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Sounds like they're about $150 million away from being able to produce it. I seriously doubt that they'll get enough investors by next year to cover that cost.
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