New Ninja EX250R E-1 owner/racer

Yamahawk · November 24th, 2015, 02:15 PM

Hi all,
I recently picked up an original 1986 EX250R E-1 that am going to fix up for a racer, I currently race a 1989 VTR250 Interceptor against all of the new/old Ninja's at Nelson Ledges race track, and it is very competitive with the latest 300's and CBR's also. The older EX250F models, are actually the fastest ones. I think this bike will be a little rocket ship when I get done with it! I plan on modifying a 2012 2-1 header, replacing the smallish head pipes with some 1 1/4" o.d. tube bent to the same specs to fit, and also mount 17" wheels on it. Currently, I have an EX500 gen2 rear wheel, caliper and bracket installed and it fits Perfectly! Now, I have to decide how to mount the EX500 front wheel, which 'may' be more of a problem, as the speedo drive is not on the same side as the rotor... I have been thinking of just swapping the whole front forks off of a 94-09 EX500, and that should remedy the problem... I don't race WERA, so I won't worry if it is legal for them, or not. It is going to be a fun project for the winter!
Anyway, I am glad to be a member of this forum, and if I can be of assistance to anyone, please feel free to ask.
Charlie
the Chaplain

Ghostt · November 24th, 2015, 02:32 PM

Yamahawk! Glad to have you aboard...

allanoue · November 24th, 2015, 02:54 PM

Charlie

Yamahawk · November 24th, 2015, 02:54 PM

Thanks, Scott! I found a company in Romulus Mich. that sells/ bends thin wall stainless tubing! The stuff I want to use is only $10 per ft. and with perhaps 3 ft. total for both sides of the EX250J header, I will be able to add larger header pipes to it! I am going to run up there soon, to see what they would charge to cnc bend the two header pipes for me. There are 2 bends on the one side, and three on the other. So, it should be reasonable... lol. At last I hope so!

Yamahawk · November 24th, 2015, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

Charlie

Thanks Al, glad to have found this forum!

By the way, I used to live in Shrewsbury, and went to Susquehannock H.S. in the early '70's lol

sharky nrk · November 24th, 2015, 03:41 PM

Welcome and awesome bikes.

Yamahawk · November 24th, 2015, 04:30 PM

Hi Neil!
I see you race also, the's cool! Is that a Honda CBR600 F2/F3 you have? They are really good handling track bikes!! I grafted a CBR600F1 Hurricane front fork and wheel on my VTR250, as I needed 17" wheels front And rear, and used the VF500 triples so the fuse block and ignition switch would mount the same as stock... if you didn't know it, you would think it was a stock front end on it! But that gave me some great traction along with the 1990 VTR250 rear wheel and swing arm! I am using a 1995 CBR600F3 rear shock modified by Jamie Daugherty for clevis, and re-valved and sprung by him also. It works well! He did the front forks, also, with cartridge emulators and .75kg springs. That bike will out-handle just about everything out there! Now, if I can gain another 3 hp. this winter... (lose 25 lb.) I will be doing well next spring!

tgold · November 25th, 2015, 12:53 PM

Hey Charlie!

Welcome to the Ninjette forum. I'm working on my 250 that I traded my SV to Jeff for. First project is installing fork cartridges from a CBR600F3. Hopefully I'll be done with all the race prep before the first Motoseries round!

Those first generation 250's are the coolest looking

Timm

csmith12 · November 25th, 2015, 01:02 PM

Welcome Charlie!

Can't wait to ride/race with ya'lls again.

Yamahawk · November 25th, 2015, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgold

Hey Charlie!

Welcome to the Ninjette forum. I'm working on my 250 that I traded my SV to Jeff for. First project is installing fork cartridges from a CBR600F3. Hopefully I'll be done with all the race prep before the first Motoseries round!

Those first generation 250's are the coolest looking

Timm

Hi Timm!!!
Nice to see you on here too! I think it is goin to be an awesome bike, I have an EX500 17" rear on it now, not too much trouble. The CBR600F3 cartridges, are they going into the Ninja forks or are you transplanting the whole front end? Let me know!
Charlie
the Chaplain

Yamahawk · November 25th, 2015, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Welcome Charlie!

Can't wait to ride/race with ya'lls again.

Hey Chris!!
Nice to hear from ya brother! I missed racing with you last season, I hope you make it next year man. We all missed you!

Charlie
the Chaplain

tgold · November 25th, 2015, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamahawk

Hi Timm!!!
Nice to see you on here too! I think it is goin to be an awesome bike, I have an EX500 17" rear on it now, not too much trouble. The CBR600F3 cartridges, are they going into the Ninja forks or are you transplanting the whole front end? Let me know!
Charlie
the Chaplain

I'm working on putting them in the Ninja forks. Trying to keep it supersport legal for now. It'll take a little bit of machining but I think the results will be good.

snot · November 25th, 2015, 07:46 PM

welcome from just south of you...

AchyGrappler · November 25th, 2015, 08:54 PM

Welcome! You're the fourth guy in recent months to start a pregen race bike build. I'm excited to see how they all turn out. Good luck and start a build thread when you can to keep us all updated.

cbinker · November 26th, 2015, 05:55 AM

hi.

Snake · November 26th, 2015, 07:55 AM

Hello and welcome.

Yamahawk · November 26th, 2015, 09:10 AM

Thanks, Snot, Achy and Chris! I will start a build thread soon!
Hmmmm..... I thought it was water, but it's snot...

Yamahawk · November 26th, 2015, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

Hello and welcome.

Hi Rick! Thanks, brother!

allanoue · November 26th, 2015, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamahawk

Thanks, Snot, Achy and Chris! I will start a build thread soon!
Hmmmm..... I thought it was water, but it's snot...

You think you are funny but it's @snot

Yamahawk · November 26th, 2015, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

You think you are funny but it's @snot

Sorry, Al and Snot, guess I will watch my posts.

Didn't mean to offend anyone..

allanoue · November 26th, 2015, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamahawk

Sorry, Al and Snot, guess I will watch my posts.

Didn't mean to offend anyone..

No one is offended unless you are. If so

snot · November 26th, 2015, 10:50 AM

it's the internet, I dont get offended that easy.
Hopefully once the bike is done I will see it at one of the tracks close by.

Yamahawk · November 26th, 2015, 07:40 PM

Cool! If you ever get to Nelson Ledges, that's where I race at primarily, perhaps at Pitt Race, or at Mid Ohio during Vintage bike days. I heard that there may be a couple new tracks to race through Moto Series this next season , but nothing concrete yet. Be glad to meet you Snot and Al!

Charlie

snot · November 26th, 2015, 08:09 PM

Vintage days will be the mostly likely place. We try to get to Mid Ohio every year, didn't make it this year.
We use to go for the AMA races.

Yamahawk · November 26th, 2015, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snot

Vintage days will be the mostly likely place. We try to get to Mid Ohio every year, didn't make it this year.
We use to go for the AMA races.

I raced the VTR250 at Mid Ohio this year, in the GENX LW and the STARS LW, it was a blast... they consider Ducati 900's lightweight hehe... but I did beat a Triumph 900 in the GEN X race! They have some good shots on the AMA gallery of all the racers, including the VTR250! I hope to have the RD350 ready for next year's Vintage bike days.

csmith12 · November 27th, 2015, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snot

We try to get to Mid Ohio every year, didn't make it this year.

Party in garage 12a this year. You and the old man are invited, lol. You too Charlie!

snot · November 27th, 2015, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Party in garage 12a this year. You and the old man are invited, lol. You too Charlie!

looks really good right now. I have vacation time again so we plan on being there.

November 24th, 2015, 02:32 PM	#2
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November 24th, 2015, 02:54 PM	#3
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November 25th, 2015, 07:46 PM	#13
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	welcome from just south of you... __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

November 24th, 2015, 02:54 PM	#4
Yamahawk Chaplain Name: Charlie Location: Toledo Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): 75 RD350 race bike, 82 XZ550RJ Vision, 81 XV920RH, 89 VTR250 Interceptor race bike, 06 Concours, 86 EX250E1 Posts: 153	Thanks, Scott! I found a company in Romulus Mich. that sells/ bends thin wall stainless tubing! The stuff I want to use is only $10 per ft. and with perhaps 3 ft. total for both sides of the EX250J header, I will be able to add larger header pipes to it! I am going to run up there soon, to see what they would charge to cnc bend the two header pipes for me. There are 2 bends on the one side, and three on the other. So, it should be reasonable... lol. At last I hope so!

November 24th, 2015, 04:30 PM	#7
Yamahawk Chaplain Name: Charlie Location: Toledo Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): 75 RD350 race bike, 82 XZ550RJ Vision, 81 XV920RH, 89 VTR250 Interceptor race bike, 06 Concours, 86 EX250E1 Posts: 153	Hi Neil! I see you race also, the's cool! Is that a Honda CBR600 F2/F3 you have? They are really good handling track bikes!! I grafted a CBR600F1 Hurricane front fork and wheel on my VTR250, as I needed 17" wheels front And rear, and used the VF500 triples so the fuse block and ignition switch would mount the same as stock... if you didn't know it, you would think it was a stock front end on it! But that gave me some great traction along with the 1990 VTR250 rear wheel and swing arm! I am using a 1995 CBR600F3 rear shock modified by Jamie Daugherty for clevis, and re-valved and sprung by him also. It works well! He did the front forks, also, with cartridge emulators and .75kg springs. That bike will out-handle just about everything out there! Now, if I can gain another 3 hp. this winter... (lose 25 lb.) I will be doing well next spring!

November 25th, 2015, 12:53 PM	#8
tgold ninjette.org sage Name: Timm Location: West Seneca, NY Join Date: Oct 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2006 1050 Speed Triple, 2010 250 Ninja racebike, YZF320RR? Racebike Posts: 556 MOTM - Nov '15	Hey Charlie! Welcome to the Ninjette forum. I'm working on my 250 that I traded my SV to Jeff for. First project is installing fork cartridges from a CBR600F3. Hopefully I'll be done with all the race prep before the first Motoseries round! Those first generation 250's are the coolest looking Timm

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November 26th, 2015, 09:10 AM	#17
Yamahawk Chaplain Name: Charlie Location: Toledo Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): 75 RD350 race bike, 82 XZ550RJ Vision, 81 XV920RH, 89 VTR250 Interceptor race bike, 06 Concours, 86 EX250E1 Posts: 153	Thanks, Snot, Achy and Chris! I will start a build thread soon! Hmmmm..... I thought it was water, but it's snot...

November 26th, 2015, 10:50 AM	#22
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	it's the internet, I dont get offended that easy. Hopefully once the bike is done I will see it at one of the tracks close by. __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

November 26th, 2015, 07:40 PM	#23
Yamahawk Chaplain Name: Charlie Location: Toledo Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): 75 RD350 race bike, 82 XZ550RJ Vision, 81 XV920RH, 89 VTR250 Interceptor race bike, 06 Concours, 86 EX250E1 Posts: 153	Cool! If you ever get to Nelson Ledges, that's where I race at primarily, perhaps at Pitt Race, or at Mid Ohio during Vintage bike days. I heard that there may be a couple new tracks to race through Moto Series this next season , but nothing concrete yet. Be glad to meet you Snot and Al! Charlie

November 26th, 2015, 08:09 PM	#24
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	Vintage days will be the mostly likely place. We try to get to Mid Ohio every year, didn't make it this year. We use to go for the AMA races. __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

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