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Old April 26th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #1
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DIY: SW-Motech mirror extenders

coaxed a bit by KKim, I am going to attempt to do a DIY on the SW-Motech mirror extenders. Ran into some snags that I will point out. Sorry if I took too many pics.

I first learned about them from Zail. Py2e later posted some pics and so I decided to buy myself a set.

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#6 allen wrench
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I put blue lock-tight liquid on the bolts. It was too hard to do with one hand, so I didn't take a pic of it.

Here is a pic of the contents. As some of you know, one of the bolts were defective. I have e-mailed them about the problem but have had no response yet. I went out and bought a replacement. I didn't use the ones in the kit.


Start by removing only the top foam bolt covers. I took off the bottom also, but found that it wasn't necessary so I put them back on.


Remove the bolt with a #6 allen wrench.


Remove the mirror assembly. Here is the order the washers are in.


deviation from picture... Initially, I had the supplied washer on the top of the extender. After I installed it, it seemed like it should be on the bottom instead. I switched it, but didn't take a pic of it.
Holding the supplied washer in place on the bottom of the extender, put extender in stock location and secure with stock bolt, nut and washers.



Holding the top and bottom washers in place on the mirror assembly, bolt in place with supplied allen bolt:



Cover the bolt heads with supplied caps:


One side finished:


Comparison shot:

yeah, i know i have rusty handlebar bolts (that is next)


extended side with arm in riding position:


stock side with arm in riding position:


Repeat same for other side and you are done (included a gratuitous shot of my HID) :



Impression: Seems like a good kit (except for that defective bolt). I haven't ridden it yet since installing it, but I can definitely see more directly behind me than before. Seems like I won't have to tuck in my arm as much to see what is behind me.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 04:55 PM   #2
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Good work! Looks like they could be pretty useful...
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Old April 26th, 2009, 05:12 PM   #3
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Looks like a good Idea...might have to do this, right after I finish the other 10 things on my list
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Old April 26th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #4
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Hooray!!

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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:02 PM   #5
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what web site did you order them from i will have to do this aswell
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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:05 PM   #6
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what web site did you order them from i will have to do this aswell
oops sorry, i forgot to put the link: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...view/2516/704/

thanks guys. i gotta give credit to the people who do those complicated DIYs. this one was pretty easy, but taking the pics easily doubled the install time.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #7
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btw. i took my bike for a ride. i feel more confident that i have a better idea of what is going on behind me now. i didn't have to tuck my arms in anymore to see behind me. at freeway speeds, the mirrors were as stable as they were stock.

i kept messing with one of them trying to get it "just right" and it became loose at one of the joints. i guess the lock-tight wasn't dry yet? idk.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:21 PM   #8
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excellent diy sw. i didn't use loctite, but it seems to be holding up.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 07:22 PM   #9
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howzit gary!

good job on the DIY!
the shots you took of the rear view with extended then the older mirror really illustrates the difference between the two.

i shall expect this forum to benefit from MANY more DIY's you'll produce in the future!

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Would be nice to see around my arms. Just wondering if this would cause any probs splitting lanes. Gets tight in there sometimes, wouldn't want to smack some mirrors along the way!
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oh, just an update. the vendor did send me 2 new bolts by UPS second day air. don't know what to do with them, but i wanted them for principle's sake. i am happy with their customer service.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 12:45 PM   #12
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Gary, Way to go! This is an excellent DIY. Thanks for posting it. I just ordered a set of extenders today. TT is really funny. I called them months ago (Nov '09) and was told these won't work on the '08-'09s! ha ha That's why I installed the spot mirrors. Now the extenders will really enhance the spots!

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Old May 6th, 2009, 02:36 PM   #13
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Installation complete. These are definitely the way to go!!!!
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Are these worth it or will the convex mirrors work ok?
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Are these worth it or will the convex mirrors work ok?
$65 + S&H was pretty steep, but they are well made. I already had the spot mirrors installed, the same as Gary. Now, I am able to see past my shoulders and directly behind me via the OEM mirrors. The spots are enhanced by the extenders, because they give even greater coverage of the blind spots on both sides.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 08:55 PM   #17
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alone, the convex mirrors did help a bit, but i still had a pretty big blind spot. plus, those things are pretty much useless at night.

i agree it is expensive. to me... it is worth it.
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Old May 8th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #18
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Just got through installing mine. 30 minutes... more like 15 to install these.

What a difference in field of vision! These are what rear view mirrors should be!

With this DIY, there's no guess work at all to installing them. I'm glad I coaxed you into these, Gary... mahalo, brah!
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:51 PM   #19
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oh darn it...looks like i'll have to buy a set...spent too much money already
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Old June 4th, 2009, 06:35 AM   #20
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Nice DIY there! Easily the most useful mod I have put on my bike - just want to update you all and say have done about 1000 miles with them on now and have had no vibration issues (have checked the bolts a couple of times and they have remained solid) - I didn't use locktite - just the washers and bolts. Have only had to adjust the mirrors when they've been accidently knocked while bike stationary and that's been easy to do - not the endless faff that adjusting the stock mirrors for the best elbow view was
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oo i got recommended on these.. i might take it up on that offer.. thanks petter!
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I ordered and installed a pair of these...LOVE them! Only one problem - on the R side only, the mirror moves too easily at the outer pivot point. At interstate speeds, my mirror folds in, and I get a fantastic view of my gas tank. Is this something a bit of Loctite would take care of, or is this a case of a defective part?

The L side works fine. When I get the R side working the same, I'll be very happy.

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can't you tighten the allen a bit more?
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Ok, I'm a dumbass. I misjudged which axis the mirror was spinning on (after all, I was on the bike, at speed, when it was happening - so I just pushed the mirror back into place and kept my eyes on the road). The bolt out by the mirror was tight as all get-out (considering I had tightened it about 3 extra times)...then I checked the other one (closer to the fairing). OOPS! It had a bit more to go.

I think they'll work just fine now. <laughs at self>

Are the extenders a fair bit pricey? Yes, I think so (their margin must be killer on these), but how important is visibility? For me, it is well worth the $65.
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btw. i took my bike for a ride. i feel more confident that i have a better idea of what is going on behind me now. i didn't have to tuck my arms in anymore to see behind me. at freeway speeds, the mirrors were as stable as they were stock.

i kept messing with one of them trying to get it "just right" and it became loose at one of the joints. i guess the lock-tight wasn't dry yet? idk.
Yes... if you read the blue loc-tite. It tells you it Sets in 20mins, and fully CURES after 24 hours!



Im going to post my Pics before/after of my install of these SW-motech mirror extenders too!
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Also i wanna note. If you check out http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/223/

Most of the Prices on all the difference types of Bikes... like BMW,etc... they ALL are $65.00 plus S&H! Afew are alil cheaper.

IMO these are well made and so far im very very pleased with them!
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Ok heres My Pics of before & after with the SW-Motech mirror extenders on.

Heres the box they come in, also you get a Free Twisted Throttle (reflective yellow) Sticker!
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Heres both on stock vs mod, side by side...
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Left sides Compared...
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Right sides Compared...
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Front Views Compared...
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Closer front views, Compared...
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And heres Close views from the Sides (SW-motechs on) so you can see that my mirrors are Straight, not bent. If you played around with the bends and angles you'd get a different view...
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Now just a angled view of the bike, to show Looks!
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yeah, after a few days, they mirrors were on tight. i didn't have a problem with them shifting around after that. i think also the fact that i used chrome bolts instead of the included ones may have contributed to them slipping around at first.

did you end up putting the bolt caps on? i see you put the foam bolt caps on the mirror arms. nice touch. hehe.

i think if you mess around with the joints more you may get a bit better results as far as getting your arms out of the reflection and still seeing behind you.
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did you end up putting the bolt caps on? i see you put the foam bolt caps on the mirror arms. nice touch. hehe.

i think if you mess around with the joints more you may get a bit better results as far as getting your arms out of the reflection and still seeing behind you.
Yes i ended up using 2 of the 4 kit plastic bolt caps! As i reused the 2 foam caps on the 2 others. That way if i lose a plastic cap or foam one, i got 2 extra!

Ooohhhh wait... i see what you mean.... lol, yea the foam caps i stuck on the arms ONLY cuz i didnt want to lose them and i put em back on once i was all done! heheee


Yes, i didnt adjust the mirrors to get a 'perfect' view, but you get a general idea! Note: I rode to royal oak thursnite (my pictures thread post) and going down I-696 i was doing 80-100MPH and the left mirror (i had moving problems weeks ago b4 i put on the SW-motechs) it moved like 1/8" not much but enuff to change the angle a tad. Thats due to not letting the loc-tite 24 hrs fully cure, also i have to Keep the bolts abit looser. I keep my bike in a Shed and going through the 32" wide door... its a Squeeze but i manage to get Nate in there, due to Folding in the Mirrors for that extra few Inches! So if i tightened down the bolts a 1/4 turn more... they wont move!

(when i took Nate out for a 20 min test ride, up gratiot and onto I-94... i had the mirror bolts REAL TIGHT and everything adjusted how i like. They never moved but when i got back home to park Nate in teh shed, i couldnt move the damn Mirror arms or extenders.. ) HEEE-MAN!!! :flex:
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Does add more horsepowerz?!?

They look good but $65 is assrape for what amounts to 4 bolts and a couple brackets.
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Unfortunately my solution is the 'chicken move'....
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yep, did that long enough and to my knowledge, this is the only alternative. Though it may seem expensive, for now, it's the best way to get a better view of what's behind you. Even with the chicken move, I had a hard time seeing what was behind.

I'd like to see some enterprising ninjette member w/ the equipment and skills turn out an equal quality kit for less.
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I just got, installed, and did a wiki DIY for the other style mirror widener that SW-MOTECH makes. I made another DIY because the install is totally different than the original model shown in this thread.

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A little update, warning, and question for others....

First off, I am still loving my extenders (the other style, but same result). Yesterday I almost got into an accident, and it was MY fault. I got a little lazy and/or distracted in my own head, and did a drifting shoulder check. I didn't come out of my lane, but nearly swerved into a Civic that was in my left blind spot. The shoulder check would have caught him, or a closer look into my mirror (the convex spot), but like I said, I was sloppy and not paying close enough attention. Fortunately I did see him before crossing the line. He obviously saw what a noob I was being and quickly moved out of the way so I wouldn't be near him (score one for Civic defensive driving).

Here is a thought, and I'm wondering about others' experiences... I am wondering if the added visibility the extenders have provided has actually contributed to a bit of complacency. I am wondering if I have not been as careful in the degree and timing of shoulder checks, and also in overall situational awareness.... I know I have no excuse, but I want to understand the contributing factors, so I can be careful to remain vigilant, and not be another statistic. Of course the same thing could have happened before I got the extenders too; I can't claim to have never been distracted before them either. Does anyone else suspect your extenders have contributed to any over-confidence, laziness, etc.????
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Does add more horsepowerz?!?

They look good but $65 is assrape for what amounts to 4 bolts and a couple brackets.
I completely agree, these things are definitely not worth $65 imo, I'm sure I could rig up something else with some spare parts in my shed and have the same results.
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I completely agree, these things are definitely not worth $65 imo, I'm sure I could rig up something else with some spare parts in my shed and have the same results.
can't wait to see what you come up with.
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