DIY Install of the Bikemonkey Integrated LED tail light - Page 4

Shadozknight · May 14th, 2011, 09:35 AM

Umm, it did cause problems to the blinking so I just spliced the new wiring to the old signal lights. I hid the original blinkers under the seat. If I disconnect them, the all blinkers blink at the same time unless u re-wire under the dash. There's a post on that somewhere. I made it simple n simply hid the original blinkers under the seat n connected the wiring from the bike monkey blinkers to those stock blinker wires. Hope that helps.

sarapacman99 · May 14th, 2011, 10:00 AM

anybody know where we can get this locally? i don't want to have it shipped all the way from AU and get lost/damaged. thanks!

Shadozknight · May 14th, 2011, 10:09 AM

Google it. I got mine in the u.s. There's a company that makes it here and u can get it on amazon.com as well I believe

Nayt · May 14th, 2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadozknight

those are the positive wires to the left blinker and the right blinker. the ground is run from the 1 ground wire thats connected to the brake light in the center housing. in another words, you dont need to wire anything to the negative for the blinkers, just to the positive for the left and right blinker.

GOT it makes sense thank you

muzkur · May 17th, 2011, 12:34 PM

I have a question.
My taillight have just one ground too.
I want to put front led turn signals flush mounted with resistors to fix the blink speed.
Can I install the resistors in rear turn signals using the brakelight ground?

Vampyre · May 17th, 2011, 01:05 PM

This guy has an ebay store and runs out of Florida.

http://stores.ebay.com/2wheelstore?_trksid=p4340.l2563

I haven't ordered from him, but I plan to on Friday.

Vampyre · May 17th, 2011, 01:06 PM

Oh crap sorry that is bikelitez

ryan_bucky · May 23rd, 2011, 02:44 PM

mine does this what the hell is rong!?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAet7BqY2I

muzkur · May 23rd, 2011, 07:55 PM

Take a picture of the wires.
Maybe you plug any wrong.

Try to switch the wire into the original turn signal connector.

ryan_bucky · May 24th, 2011, 11:35 PM

Not to sure what u mean left is to left

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 05:08 AM

I mean positive and negative.

nattygirl · May 25th, 2011, 06:22 AM

Does the brake light work as it should when the turn signals are not on? What kind of turn signals do u have in the front of the bike?

ryan_bucky · May 25th, 2011, 08:31 AM

How can u have the pos & neg mixed up as they wouldnt work on a neg as that only receives power not gives it? I tried it with the earth and noting happened!! I have front LEDs that work fine just the rear light that's crap!!

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 08:52 AM

I had that problem too. In my case, switchin the wires works fine.
An important detail: With the 4 original turn signals the LED blink speed's faster than just the 2 front turn signals.

That tail light have a little weird circuit. lol

ryan_bucky · May 25th, 2011, 09:05 AM

What do u mean switching the wires? Do u mean the green to indicator ahold be the black and yellow to indicator or the comple harness as in the black to grey connector I used off the original indicators???

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 09:12 AM

Yes. Something like that.
I could check how my wires are plugged and post here if you wish.

ryan_bucky · May 25th, 2011, 09:17 AM

Yer please!! This is doin my head in it won't pass the MOT with lights like this!!!!!!!

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 09:44 AM

Checked.

The brake light is plug and play. No problem

To the left side, I have a blue wire in the taillight led and ablack connector with black and green wires in the bike. I plugged the blue in the green wire.

To right side I have a yellow wire in taillight and a gray connector with black and white wires. I plugged the yellow in the white wire.

My front turn signals are the originals, no changes. In tail I've used just the taillight, no other turn signals in led, original ones neither.

Here a video with my taillight in use:
http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/j...8042011001.mp4

ryan_bucky · May 25th, 2011, 11:05 AM

What is the White wire on the right side? I have tried ever way and still no luck!

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 11:20 AM

In my bike it's the positive to plug connector in the bike to right turn signal.
Maybe in different countries or different year models that may change.

nattygirl · May 25th, 2011, 12:57 PM

As long as you have positive wire to positive wire, neg to neg, your wiring is good. I think your issue may be the fact that you have leds in your front signals as well. Have you done the diode mod? If not, you are going to need to. Check out this thread. It explains why it's necessary.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...ighlight=diode

I have the same tail light as you, proton flushmounts in the front, and also stock turns with leds in the back. I have the diode mod, and also a electronic flasher relay to stabilize the blink rate. Everything is all good.

muzkur · May 25th, 2011, 08:34 PM

Im not using led in front yet because of that. But when I tried to use led in front, my turn signals simple didnt blink.

I wish to buy a resistor kit to fix that. I heard about some digital relay too. But that diode solution I dont know about it.

nattygirl · May 26th, 2011, 06:21 AM

Its one or the other. Either u use resistors or u do the diode mod. To me, installing the diodes were just as easy as doing the resistors, especially with the diy. Plus with resistors, they can heat up so you have to worry about where u install them. Also, u'll have to be able to calculate which size resistor is right for your setup. With the diode, there's no guess work.

CZroe · June 19th, 2011, 10:13 PM

The OP seems to forget the part where you remove the black plastic shroud that is attached over the brake light with plastic snaps and velcro.

Kawinja · August 21st, 2011, 12:20 AM

what is an OP?

Mr.E · August 21st, 2011, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawinja

what is an OP?

Original post. Its the first post of a thread, in this case, the DIY.

Kawinja · August 21st, 2011, 01:17 AM

ah cool thanks for the lingo update. i'm noob to whole forum lingo!

Kawinja · August 22nd, 2011, 12:00 AM

It worked i bought my bike and it came with an integrated tail light on it already. All i had to do was purchase the relay flasher and plug it in and now my signals finally blink!!!! YAY ME!!!!! lol

CZroe · August 22nd, 2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.E

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawinja

what is an OP?

Original post. Its the first post of a thread, in this case, the DIY.

Sometimes it also refers to the person who made the original post. It looks like he could have used it that way in the vinyl thread.

ACT250R · August 24th, 2011, 10:18 PM

Issue fixed

DarkNinja52 · August 26th, 2011, 12:59 AM

what was the issue?

DarkNinja52 · August 28th, 2011, 01:04 AM

How is the BM different than the DMP and the TunerX factory versions?

Momaru · August 29th, 2011, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

How is the BM different than the DMP and the TunerX factory versions?

At a glance, I'd say none, save perhaps lower quality components and assembly. Looks like they directly ripped off the BikeMonkey design, flash pattern, wiring connections and all.

Personally, I'd go with them as I'm fairly sure it's their design and I prefer to support the people that actually did the work to develop a good product.

I might be wrong about eithr of those statements, but I can say that my BikeMonkey is still working like a champ 16,000mi (and almost three years) after install and I've gotten several compliments (no complaints) about brake light visibility.

DarkNinja52 · August 29th, 2011, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momaru

At a glance, I'd say none, save perhaps lower quality components and assembly. Looks like they directly ripped off the BikeMonkey design, flash pattern, wiring connections and all.

Personally, I'd go with them as I'm fairly sure it's their design and I prefer to support the people that actually did the work to develop a good product.

I might be wrong about eithr of those statements, but I can say that my BikeMonkey is still working like a champ 16,000mi (and almost three years) after install and I've gotten several compliments (no complaints) about brake light visibility.

Between having the same design, flash pattern and wiring connections, i feel it may be possible they were manufactured by the same company but the rights were sold to different vendors. If that's even something that happens

Momaru · August 30th, 2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

Between having the same design, flash pattern and wiring connections, i feel it may be possible they were manufactured by the same company but the rights were sold to different vendors. If that's even something that happens

Perhaps. I've been told something similar with several brands of protective gear, that the 'daytime' factory operations are for the major brand, and that 'night-time' operations, with the same materials, processes, etc, is for the off-brand. The difference between them is the quality control. Lots for the main-brands. Almost none for the off-brands. That's all hear-say and my somewhat unreliable memory though.

All I know is that I've bought a couple knock-off products in the past and had them wind out to be less than what I'd hoped for, in comparison to the 'genuine article.' Not saying that's the case with these other companies making the integrated tails, but ya never know till you throw down the $.

DarkNinja52 · August 31st, 2011, 11:41 PM

Well i threw down the the $ for dmp fender elim and dmp tail light. look just like the b2 industriesfender elim and the Bike monkey tail light.. we'll see

natek · September 2nd, 2011, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

Well i threw down the the $ for dmp fender elim and dmp tail light. look just like the b2 industriesfender elim and the Bike monkey tail light.. we'll see

pics when done please

DarkNinja52 · September 2nd, 2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natek

pics when done please

I'll keep you updated over here
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83900

Also I might put some pics in the BM thread as the install might be EXACTLY the same. Including diode and Flasher relay install

Sqwacka · January 25th, 2012, 02:39 AM

Hey! I recently bought the Bike Monkey intergrated tail light for my bike. Just wondering if you need to buy the aftermarket LED flasher?? The indicators in the tail light are lit up but not flashing..

Cheers

Shadozknight · January 25th, 2012, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqwacka

Hey! I recently bought the Bike Monkey intergrated tail light for my bike. Just wondering if you need to buy the aftermarket LED flasher?? The indicators in the tail light are lit up but not flashing..

Cheers

Yes u do have to buy a led flasher. Get 1 at kragen, pep boys or autozone

May 14th, 2011, 10:00 AM	#122
sarapacman99 Climb to Glory! Name: Charlie Location: Las Vegas Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R White (sold) Posts: 234	anybody know where we can get this locally? i don't want to have it shipped all the way from AU and get lost/damaged. thanks! __________________________________________________ I wanted to become Kamen Rider as a kid.

May 17th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#125
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	I have a question. My taillight have just one ground too. I want to put front led turn signals flush mounted with resistors to fix the blink speed. Can I install the resistors in rear turn signals using the brakelight ground? __________________________________________________

May 23rd, 2011, 07:55 PM	#129
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	Take a picture of the wires. Maybe you plug any wrong. Try to switch the wire into the original turn signal connector. __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 05:08 AM	#131
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	I mean positive and negative. __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 06:22 AM	#132
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	Does the brake light work as it should when the turn signals are not on? What kind of turn signals do u have in the front of the bike? __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

May 14th, 2011, 09:35 AM	#121
Shadozknight ninjette.org newbie Name: Avi Location: Bay area Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10 ninja 250r Posts: 6	Umm, it did cause problems to the blinking so I just spliced the new wiring to the old signal lights. I hid the original blinkers under the seat. If I disconnect them, the all blinkers blink at the same time unless u re-wire under the dash. There's a post on that somewhere. I made it simple n simply hid the original blinkers under the seat n connected the wiring from the bike monkey blinkers to those stock blinker wires. Hope that helps.

May 14th, 2011, 10:09 AM	#123
Shadozknight ninjette.org newbie Name: Avi Location: Bay area Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10 ninja 250r Posts: 6	Google it. I got mine in the u.s. There's a company that makes it here and u can get it on amazon.com as well I believe

May 17th, 2011, 01:05 PM	#126
Vampyre ninjette.org sage Name: Joseph Location: Winter Park, FL Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R Black, 2005 ZX-6R Blue Posts: 623	This guy has an ebay store and runs out of Florida. http://stores.ebay.com/2wheelstore?_trksid=p4340.l2563 I haven't ordered from him, but I plan to on Friday.

May 17th, 2011, 01:06 PM	#127
Vampyre ninjette.org sage Name: Joseph Location: Winter Park, FL Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R Black, 2005 ZX-6R Blue Posts: 623	Oh crap sorry that is bikelitez

May 23rd, 2011, 02:44 PM	#128
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	mine does this what the hell is rong!?!?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAet7BqY2I

May 24th, 2011, 11:35 PM	#130
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	Not to sure what u mean left is to left

May 25th, 2011, 08:31 AM	#133
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	How can u have the pos & neg mixed up as they wouldnt work on a neg as that only receives power not gives it? I tried it with the earth and noting happened!! I have front LEDs that work fine just the rear light that's crap!!

May 25th, 2011, 08:52 AM	#134
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	I had that problem too. In my case, switchin the wires works fine. An important detail: With the 4 original turn signals the LED blink speed's faster than just the 2 front turn signals. That tail light have a little weird circuit. lol __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 09:05 AM	#135
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	What do u mean switching the wires? Do u mean the green to indicator ahold be the black and yellow to indicator or the comple harness as in the black to grey connector I used off the original indicators???

May 25th, 2011, 09:12 AM	#136
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	Yes. Something like that. I could check how my wires are plugged and post here if you wish. __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 09:17 AM	#137
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	Yer please!! This is doin my head in it won't pass the MOT with lights like this!!!!!!!

May 25th, 2011, 09:44 AM	#138
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	Checked. The brake light is plug and play. No problem To the left side, I have a blue wire in the taillight led and ablack connector with black and green wires in the bike. I plugged the blue in the green wire. To right side I have a yellow wire in taillight and a gray connector with black and white wires. I plugged the yellow in the white wire. My front turn signals are the originals, no changes. In tail I've used just the taillight, no other turn signals in led, original ones neither. Here a video with my taillight in use: http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/j...8042011001.mp4 __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 11:05 AM	#139
ryan_bucky ninjette.org newbie Name: ryan Location: bournemouth Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 7	What is the White wire on the right side? I have tried ever way and still no luck!

May 25th, 2011, 11:20 AM	#140
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	In my bike it's the positive to plug connector in the bike to right turn signal. Maybe in different countries or different year models that may change. __________________________________________________

May 25th, 2011, 12:57 PM	#141
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	As long as you have positive wire to positive wire, neg to neg, your wiring is good. I think your issue may be the fact that you have leds in your front signals as well. Have you done the diode mod? If not, you are going to need to. Check out this thread. It explains why it's necessary. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...ighlight=diode I have the same tail light as you, proton flushmounts in the front, and also stock turns with leds in the back. I have the diode mod, and also a electronic flasher relay to stabilize the blink rate. Everything is all good. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

May 25th, 2011, 08:34 PM	#142
muzkur ninjette.org member Name: Fred Location: Brazil Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 10' Ninja 250R Posts: 164	Im not using led in front yet because of that. But when I tried to use led in front, my turn signals simple didnt blink. I wish to buy a resistor kit to fix that. I heard about some digital relay too. But that diode solution I dont know about it. __________________________________________________

May 26th, 2011, 06:21 AM	#143
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	Its one or the other. Either u use resistors or u do the diode mod. To me, installing the diodes were just as easy as doing the resistors, especially with the diy. Plus with resistors, they can heat up so you have to worry about where u install them. Also, u'll have to be able to calculate which size resistor is right for your setup. With the diode, there's no guess work. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

June 19th, 2011, 10:13 PM	#144
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	The OP seems to forget the part where you remove the black plastic shroud that is attached over the brake light with plastic snaps and velcro.

August 21st, 2011, 12:20 AM	#145
Kawinja FNG Name: Hunter Location: boiling springs, sc Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawi Ninja 250r Posts: 17	what is an OP?

August 21st, 2011, 01:17 AM	#147
Kawinja FNG Name: Hunter Location: boiling springs, sc Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawi Ninja 250r Posts: 17	ah cool thanks for the lingo update. i'm noob to whole forum lingo!

August 22nd, 2011, 12:00 AM	#148
Kawinja FNG Name: Hunter Location: boiling springs, sc Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawi Ninja 250r Posts: 17	It worked i bought my bike and it came with an integrated tail light on it already. All i had to do was purchase the relay flasher and plug it in and now my signals finally blink!!!! YAY ME!!!!! lol

August 24th, 2011, 10:18 PM	#150
ACT250R ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Canberra, Australia Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Red Ninja 250R Posts: 17	Issue fixed Last futzed with by ACT250R; August 25th, 2011 at 04:49 AM.

August 26th, 2011, 12:59 AM	#151
DarkNinja52 ninjette.org sage Name: aj Location: New York / PA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 09 Ninja 250r aka Sheila (RIP), Red '10 Ninja 250r aka Sasha (Sold), White '13 Ninja 300 (To be Purchased) Posts: 855	what was the issue? __________________________________________________

August 28th, 2011, 01:04 AM	#152
DarkNinja52 ninjette.org sage Name: aj Location: New York / PA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 09 Ninja 250r aka Sheila (RIP), Red '10 Ninja 250r aka Sasha (Sold), White '13 Ninja 300 (To be Purchased) Posts: 855	How is the BM different than the DMP and the TunerX factory versions? __________________________________________________

August 31st, 2011, 11:41 PM	#156
DarkNinja52 ninjette.org sage Name: aj Location: New York / PA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 09 Ninja 250r aka Sheila (RIP), Red '10 Ninja 250r aka Sasha (Sold), White '13 Ninja 300 (To be Purchased) Posts: 855	Well i threw down the the $ for dmp fender elim and dmp tail light. look just like the b2 industriesfender elim and the Bike monkey tail light.. we'll see __________________________________________________

January 25th, 2012, 02:39 AM	#159
Sqwacka ninjette.org newbie Name: Joel Location: Darwin Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250 2011 Posts: 1	Hey! I recently bought the Bike Monkey intergrated tail light for my bike. Just wondering if you need to buy the aftermarket LED flasher?? The indicators in the tail light are lit up but not flashing.. Cheers

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