What order do these spools go in?

hogfan83 · March 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM

im not sure which order or direction to put these spools on as i have never seen them on a bike up close.....

HKr1 · March 9th, 2009, 02:56 PM

I would guess that the small piece goes between the swing arm and slider.
They look nice, what kinda are they?

hogfan83 · March 9th, 2009, 03:02 PM

steel horse fabrications.

niether side fits well with the spacer, and i dont understand why the spacer is shaped the way it is

HKr1 · March 9th, 2009, 03:08 PM

I know just the spool wouldnt sit flush..... maybe smaller cone side towards swing arm??? Guessing you have tried every way, didnt have any instructions?

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

..... maybe smaller cone side towards swing arm???

that would be my guess.

HKr1 · March 9th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

that would be my guess.

Theres allot of guessing going on

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 03:14 PM

hey, he's the one that asked for help!!

hogfan83 · March 9th, 2009, 03:18 PM

thats what i guessed too but i wanted to make sure...heres a picture from below the swingarm with everything hand tightened

HKr1 · March 9th, 2009, 03:19 PM

^ Looks good

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 03:25 PM

yep, I'm guessing that's correct.

hogfan83 · March 9th, 2009, 04:15 PM

thanks for the guesses guys...

Sound Wave · March 9th, 2009, 11:22 PM

i have a shogun swing arm spool and yeah, that is pretty much the way it goes. the fat side towards the spool and the skinny side towards the swing arm.

watcanido · March 9th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Yah that's my setup as well. I made my rear spools a little loose so it can spin while I set it up on the rear stand. I find it helps in lifting, what did you guys do? tight or loose?

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 11:52 PM

tight. I'd be concerned that they would vibrate loose.

00v_Lucky · March 10th, 2009, 09:47 AM

posting here because not worth a new thread.

i remember some one buying the t rex spools. would those fit with the northern tool stand? I previously bought the 6.50 spools on ebay, and those are too short to be caught on the stand hooks ( i do not want to make that same mistake again) Do you guys think this would be any longer?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T-Rex...Q5fAccessories

RaceBikeRentals · March 10th, 2009, 10:17 AM

I'm using TRex spools and the Northern Tools stand. The stand is adjustable width, so no problems.

00v_Lucky · March 10th, 2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

I'm using TRex spools and the Northern Tools stand. The stand is adjustable width, so no problems.

ty, i feel secure in this purchase now, thx. Also, how did you permanently hold the hooks onto the stand? if you used epoxy, how did you make sure that the hooks were properly straight and aligned?

RaceBikeRentals · March 10th, 2009, 10:33 AM

2 part epoxy from HD. Make sure you get the one specified for metal. Just goop the stuff around the perimeter of the top cap and place it in the holes. Hold for a minute or so while it gels up and wipe off the excess. Good to go.

paterick4o8 · March 18th, 2009, 11:21 PM

I have the same ones (shogun) as hogfan83.
I put the skinny side toward the swing arm.
BTW, not sure if they were just on too tight or if the screw just of poor quality, but in my low side, this broke right off and the left over piece of screw is stuck inside the hole in my swing arm now

hogfan83 · March 19th, 2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paterick4o8

and the left over piece of screw is stuck inside the hole in my swing arm now

thats not good! i put locktite around mine so if that happens im pretty much screwed

kkim · March 19th, 2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paterick4o8

BTW, not sure if they were just on too tight or if the screw just of poor quality, but in my low side, this broke right off and the left over piece of screw is stuck inside the hole in my swing arm now

use the appropriate sized screw extractor and remove it.

paterick4o8 · March 19th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

use the appropriate sized screw extractor and remove it.

Thanks Kelly, will do

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 01:08 PM

I'm putting this here because I figured it kinda goes with the topic, What size spools does the 09 250r take? I have some 10mm but they seem way too big, I tried screwing them in and it was a no go.

Alex · May 20th, 2009, 01:41 PM

The 250r does in fact take 10mm spools. That 10mm refers to the bolt itself, but there are many different sized spools that all have a 10mm bolt. Do your spools fit into the hole but they just don't look right or sit right against the swingarm?

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 01:49 PM

I can get the very tip in then if I try to screw it in more it won't go. I used an allen wrench to try and get it further in but it wouldn't move all the way in.

Alex · May 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Make sure that the spools really are 10mm and not 12mm, and then check to see if the threads on either the spools themselves or the spool boss on the swingarm are buggered up. Definitely don't force anything, if it doesn't fit easily something is wrong.

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 02:16 PM

Yea thats what I thought I've checked the box and when I went to get them the guy let me make sure theyd fit mine by screwing them on another 09 ninja 250r.

kkim · May 20th, 2009, 02:22 PM

those spool hole threads are normally filled with paint which makes screwing in the spools a bit more difficult. make sure it's clean and try using a regular hex head bolt in there first to clean out the paint from the threads.

as Alex said, don't force anything. some wd40 might help clean/lube the threads when screwing it in.

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 02:47 PM

Paint wouldnt make it so hard that when I try to tighten them the bike shakes would it?

kkim · May 20th, 2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubesock

Paint wouldnt make it so hard that when I try to tighten them the bike shakes would it?

what do you mean shakes?

FroggyGreenInSD · May 20th, 2009, 03:30 PM

One other thing to check is the thread pitch. My spools came with 10mm bolts, but the thread pitch was 1.5 which does not match the mount on the swing arm. As a result they wouldn't go in. When I got a bolt with 1.25 thread pitch it went in smooth as silk. If you want to test the thread pitch of your bolt, you can take the rubber plug off one of the mirror mounting holes on the clutch lever perch or front brake perch. They are M10x1.25 with no paint on the threads. If you cant put the bolt in there it is definitely the wrong size.

kkim · May 20th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubesock

Yea thats what I thought I've checked the box and when I went to get them the guy let me make sure theyd fit mine by screwing them on another 09 ninja 250r.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FroggyGreenInSD

One other thing to check is the thread pitch. My spools came with 10mm bolts, but the thread pitch was 1.5 which does not match the mount on the swing arm. As a result they wouldn't go in. When I got a bolt with 1.25 thread pitch it went in smooth as silk. If you want to test the thread pitch of your bolt, you can take the rubber plug off one of the mirror mounting holes on the clutch lever perch or front brake perch. They are M10x1.25 with no paint on the threads. If you cant put the bolt in there it is definitely the wrong size.

true, but we already know the spool bolts he has fits the holes that are threaded in the swingarm for the spools.

Is that correct, Tubesock?

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 04:52 PM

That is correct, and what I mean't by the bike shakes (shakes was probably a poor choice of words) I mean it wobbles and moves as I tried to screw it down and about that time I decided it shouldn't be this hard and I should ask for help (which I got from you guys

). But anyway I went to a friend of mine who I wrestled with in high school who's father owns and operates his motorcycle repair shop, I went in and asked for help and he said it actually was all a product of the paint! He took a threader to it, cleaned the paint out and it went in just fine after that.

Alex · May 20th, 2009, 05:50 PM

Bsmith · May 20th, 2009, 06:13 PM

Yeah I ended up having to buy a set of tap and dies for just that purpose

You can never have too many tools.

Tubesock · May 20th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Just like Clint Eastwood said "A man acquires all these tools over a lifetime."

kkim · May 20th, 2009, 07:03 PM

Glad you got it in.

Frog · May 30th, 2009, 06:57 AM

Has anybody come across Kawasaki Green Swingarm Spools? I would like to use them with a Pit Bull stand.

Banzai · May 30th, 2009, 07:11 AM

You know, it would have been so much easier if Kawi had just weleded the spool bosses flush with the OUTSIDE of the swingarm instead flush with the INSIDE. Would really have opened up the aftermarket without the need for some silly little cone thingy!

To the OP, glad you got it figured out.

tiburonsita · June 1st, 2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bsmith

Yeah I ended up having to buy a set of tap and dies for just that purpose

You can never have too many tools.

I was able to find the one I needed at Ace Warehouse by itself for $5 instead of the $50 kit at Home Depot. I was ready to just return the 2nd set of spools/slider and get a different stand that didn't require them. Glad I gave it a try. Was a lot easier to do than I had expected.

You have them on right Michael - I have the same set.

March 9th, 2009, 03:02 PM	#3
hogfan83 ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Little Rock, AR Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 65	steel horse fabrications. niether side fits well with the spacer, and i dont understand why the spacer is shaped the way it is __________________________________________________ 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Special Edition

March 9th, 2009, 04:15 PM	#11
hogfan83 ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: Little Rock, AR Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 65	thanks for the guesses guys... __________________________________________________ 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Special Edition

March 10th, 2009, 10:17 AM	#16
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	I'm using TRex spools and the Northern Tools stand. The stand is adjustable width, so no problems. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

March 10th, 2009, 10:33 AM	#18
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	2 part epoxy from HD. Make sure you get the one specified for metal. Just goop the stuff around the perimeter of the top cap and place it in the holes. Hold for a minute or so while it gels up and wipe off the excess. Good to go. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

May 20th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#23
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	I'm putting this here because I figured it kinda goes with the topic, What size spools does the 09 250r take? I have some 10mm but they seem way too big, I tried screwing them in and it was a no go. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

March 9th, 2009, 02:56 PM	#2
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	I would guess that the small piece goes between the swing arm and slider. They look nice, what kinda are they?

March 9th, 2009, 03:08 PM	#4
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	I know just the spool wouldnt sit flush..... maybe smaller cone side towards swing arm??? Guessing you have tried every way, didnt have any instructions?

March 9th, 2009, 03:14 PM	#7
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	hey, he's the one that asked for help!!

March 9th, 2009, 03:19 PM	#9
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	^ Looks good

March 9th, 2009, 03:25 PM	#10
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yep, I'm guessing that's correct.

March 9th, 2009, 11:22 PM	#12
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	i have a shogun swing arm spool and yeah, that is pretty much the way it goes. the fat side towards the spool and the skinny side towards the swing arm.

March 9th, 2009, 11:51 PM	#13
watcanido ninjette.org member Name: Jhaqui Location: Earth Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 83	Yah that's my setup as well. I made my rear spools a little loose so it can spin while I set it up on the rear stand. I find it helps in lifting, what did you guys do? tight or loose?

March 9th, 2009, 11:52 PM	#14
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	tight. I'd be concerned that they would vibrate loose.

March 10th, 2009, 09:47 AM	#15
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	posting here because not worth a new thread. i remember some one buying the t rex spools. would those fit with the northern tool stand? I previously bought the 6.50 spools on ebay, and those are too short to be caught on the stand hooks ( i do not want to make that same mistake again) Do you guys think this would be any longer? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T-Rex...Q5fAccessories

March 18th, 2009, 11:21 PM	#19
paterick4o8 ninjette.org sage Name: patricK Location: San Jose, CA--BAY AREA! Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 blue 250R [sold]. '09 lime ZX-6R [stolen :( ]. '06 blue 636. Posts: 918	I have the same ones (shogun) as hogfan83. I put the skinny side toward the swing arm. BTW, not sure if they were just on too tight or if the screw just of poor quality, but in my low side, this broke right off and the left over piece of screw is stuck inside the hole in my swing arm now

May 20th, 2009, 01:41 PM	#24
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The 250r does in fact take 10mm spools. That 10mm refers to the bolt itself, but there are many different sized spools that all have a 10mm bolt. Do your spools fit into the hole but they just don't look right or sit right against the swingarm? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 20th, 2009, 01:49 PM	#25
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	I can get the very tip in then if I try to screw it in more it won't go. I used an allen wrench to try and get it further in but it wouldn't move all the way in. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM	#26
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Make sure that the spools really are 10mm and not 12mm, and then check to see if the threads on either the spools themselves or the spool boss on the swingarm are buggered up. Definitely don't force anything, if it doesn't fit easily something is wrong. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 20th, 2009, 02:16 PM	#27
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Yea thats what I thought I've checked the box and when I went to get them the guy let me make sure theyd fit mine by screwing them on another 09 ninja 250r. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 20th, 2009, 02:22 PM	#28
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	those spool hole threads are normally filled with paint which makes screwing in the spools a bit more difficult. make sure it's clean and try using a regular hex head bolt in there first to clean out the paint from the threads. as Alex said, don't force anything. some wd40 might help clean/lube the threads when screwing it in.

May 20th, 2009, 02:47 PM	#29
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Paint wouldnt make it so hard that when I try to tighten them the bike shakes would it? __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 20th, 2009, 03:30 PM	#31
FroggyGreenInSD ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Green 250, 12 Ninja 650 (also green, it's the fastest color!) Posts: 32	One other thing to check is the thread pitch. My spools came with 10mm bolts, but the thread pitch was 1.5 which does not match the mount on the swing arm. As a result they wouldn't go in. When I got a bolt with 1.25 thread pitch it went in smooth as silk. If you want to test the thread pitch of your bolt, you can take the rubber plug off one of the mirror mounting holes on the clutch lever perch or front brake perch. They are M10x1.25 with no paint on the threads. If you cant put the bolt in there it is definitely the wrong size. Last futzed with by FroggyGreenInSD; May 20th, 2009 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Add info on how to check thread pitch of your bolt

May 20th, 2009, 04:52 PM	#33
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	That is correct, and what I mean't by the bike shakes (shakes was probably a poor choice of words) I mean it wobbles and moves as I tried to screw it down and about that time I decided it shouldn't be this hard and I should ask for help (which I got from you guys). But anyway I went to a friend of mine who I wrestled with in high school who's father owns and operates his motorcycle repair shop, I went in and asked for help and he said it actually was all a product of the paint! He took a threader to it, cleaned the paint out and it went in just fine after that. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 20th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#34
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	__________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 20th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#35
Bsmith ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: Easley, SC Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250 R.I.P. Posts: 84	Yeah I ended up having to buy a set of tap and dies for just that purpose You can never have too many tools.

May 20th, 2009, 07:00 PM	#36
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Just like Clint Eastwood said "A man acquires all these tools over a lifetime." __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 20th, 2009, 07:03 PM	#37
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Glad you got it in.

May 30th, 2009, 06:57 AM	#38
Frog ninjette.org newbie Name: Jen Location: Central Illinois Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 4	Kawasaki Green Swingarm Spools Has anybody come across Kawasaki Green Swingarm Spools? I would like to use them with a Pit Bull stand. __________________________________________________

May 30th, 2009, 07:11 AM	#39
Banzai Psychic war veteran Name: Thomas Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Kawi Green '09 Ninja ZX6R Posts: 663	You know, it would have been so much easier if Kawi had just weleded the spool bosses flush with the OUTSIDE of the swingarm instead flush with the INSIDE. Would really have opened up the aftermarket without the need for some silly little cone thingy! To the OP, glad you got it figured out. __________________________________________________ * If you're arguing with some idiot over the internet, chances are pretty good he's doing the same thing! Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction

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