T.S.I.Y.O.O.T.P.T.R.T. - Thread!

VeX · December 3rd, 2008, 12:35 AM

The Super Important Yet Often Overlooked Thread Pertaining To Random Thoughts:

It took a lot of brainstorming, but I think that's probably the best name for this thread. I figure there ought to be a thread for random thoughts or conversations that don't fit into the regular "topic" construct (yes even in the "Off-Topic" forum).

... So I was going to post that I got my ZX-6R master-cylinder and lever in and was waiting on the reservoir next before I started taking things apart. I didn't want to create a whole thread just for that little update, so I justified it with creating THIS thread to post such random thoughts!

kkim · December 3rd, 2008, 12:38 AM

lol...

what are you doing with it? why the need to change?

VeX · December 3rd, 2008, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

lol...

what are you doing with it? why the need to change?

Well it didn't occur to me at first. Then a friend with a CBR was commenting how sloppy the quality of the levers were. I'm not talking about the slack in the clutch cable, but just large tolerances in both levers. SO I was going to change out the clutch cable (just requires an EX500 perch and then you can throw ZX-6R Pazzo levers on. As for the brake side though there is no "easy fix". Soooo long story short I had been keeping an eye out for a reasonably priced master-cylinder from a ZX bike to try out. Well lucky me Dageorge from KF was selling a bunch of 2007-2007 ZX-6R parts. He actually had a damn near brand new Nissin M/C with the adjustable lever (double bonus). The only thing missing is the reservoir (curses!).

That and it should stiffen up the front brakes having a master cylinder that was meant for TWO calipers pumping fluid to just one. I think it might not only benefit me to have some Galfer SS braided lines (aesthetically, but longevity and performance-wise as well) with a 90 degree bend (the mounting is on the bottom of the M/C instead of the side now)... But I digress!

kkim · December 3rd, 2008, 01:06 AM

you really feel the bike needs more braking power??? ... seems fine to me, but i guess if i raced it would be a diff story. interested to hear how it all turns out.

been so lazy lately.. haven't even gotten around to tearing the bike down to drill the slides.

VeX · December 3rd, 2008, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you really feel the bike needs more braking power??? ... seems fine to me, but i guess if i raced it would be a diff story. interested to hear how it all turns out.

been so lazy lately.. haven't even gotten around to tearing the bike down to drill the slides.

Lordy! I'm kind of psyched. This is one of the first things I have planned that doesn't require a bunch of parts to come off!

Normally it's like this:

A) Re-jet (fairings, tank, etc have to come off)
B) Remove Air-filter box (EVERYTHING comes off)
C) Drill slides (fairings, tank, etc have to come off)
D) Install alarm (farings + lots of other panels have to come off

... New master cylinder (Remove old master cylinder)

kkim · December 3rd, 2008, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeX

Lordy! I'm kind of psyched. This is one of the first things I have planned that doesn't require a bunch of parts to come off!

Normally it's like this:

A) Re-jet (fairings, tank, etc have to come off)
B) Remove Air-filter box (EVERYTHING comes off)
C) Drill slides (fairings, tank, etc have to come off)
D) Install alarm (farings + lots of other panels have to come off

... New master cylinder (Remove old master cylinder)

take pics when you do the install. curious to see how bleeding the line goes. I've always have had a phobia about bleeding motorcycle lines.

Air just seems to get trapped in the weirdest places and the lever pressure is never as firm as it comes from the factory.

when are the parts supposed to show up?

VeX · December 3rd, 2008, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

take pics when you do the install. curious to see how bleeding the line goes. I've always have had a phobia about bleeding motorcycle lines.

Air just seems to get trapped in the weirdest places and the lever pressure is never as firm as it comes from the factory.

when are the parts supposed to show up?

Well I'll do a write-up on it

. As for bleeding it should be cake. Gotta love the super sports! There's literally a bleeder valve ON the master-cylinder. The main problem I've found from bleeding clutches and brakes are micro-bubbles. Lots of tapping and braking cycles gets the bubbles to rise, so usage helps! I have the master cylinder (I'll post a pic of it later today). I'm waiting on a reservoir from a ZX-7R (It should fit fine) and then it'll be good to go.

kkim · December 3rd, 2008, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeX

Well I'll do a write-up on it

. As for bleeding it should be cake. Gotta love the super sports! There's literally a bleeder valve ON the master-cylinder. The main problem I've found from bleeding clutches and brakes are micro-bubbles. Lots of tapping and braking cycles gets the bubbles to rise, so usage helps! I have the master cylinder (I'll post a pic of it later today). I'm waiting on a reservoir from a ZX-7R (It should fit fine) and then it'll be good to go.

cool... another DIY.

I think the problem in the old days, on the dirt bikes, the brake line used to exit down, then loop back up. You could never push the bubbles downhill and they were always stuck in the calipers unless you took the MC off and put it lower than the caliper to bleed.

i have no problems with cars... it's just bikes that I have a problem with. lemme know how it goes and if the braking leverage increases w/ the new MC.

where the hell did you get this idea from?

VeX · December 5th, 2008, 03:30 AM

Yup yup. I emailed one of Galfer's distributors about getting a new brake hose, but the master cylinder connection needs to be at a 90 degree angle instead of straight (The ZX6r M/C connects on the bottom). The distributor emailed me back saying it took her a while to figure out exactly what I was trying to do (ALL I need is a regular hose, but one banjo fitting just needs to be a 90 degree fitting instead of a straight fitting

)...

She gave me Galfer's phone number and said I have to go through them for custom brake lines. Sheesh! It's always the simple things.

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 03:53 AM

how long is that going to take?

camaroz1985 · December 5th, 2008, 08:00 AM

You could make your own line if you really wanted, but that will probably be more expensive.

VeX · December 5th, 2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

You could make your own line if you really wanted, but that will probably be more expensive.

Yeah it would

I have an assortment of stainless braided AN lines lying around as well... But then like you said it would wind up more expensive. That and through Galfer the lines are coated (which is a big concern) and the banjo fittings come with a variety of colors. So I can get a blue tinted hose and a black anodized fittings. It should look purdy

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 05:58 PM

i love....lamp

VeX · December 5th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoHundred50R

i love....lamp

I'd love for my fist to be in your FACE!

ehhh I means, "I love chair"

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 06:59 PM

nice use of the smileys there bud
but i think this one fits you best

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:15 PM

friday night... who's drinkin what?? I'm buyin'...

Ahhhhh!!!

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

friday night... who's drinkin what?? I'm buyin'...

Ahhhhh!!!

well shoot if you paying then uh....

?

haha jk

probably just sit around with the brother and be cheap again...

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:30 PM

hey, drink the cheap stuff with your brother... that's cool, but while online, live a little.

noche_caliente · December 5th, 2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

well shoot if you paying then uh....

?

haha jk

probably just sit around with the brother and be cheap again...

Good thing this is a virtual drink seeing as you JUST posted that you're 19...

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Good thing this is a virtual drink seeing as you JUST posted that you're 19...

Eh sue me

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Good thing this is a virtual drink seeing as you JUST posted that you're 19...

cheeze it... it's the cyber cops/moms.

and what are you having, my dear ??? something loaded with alcohol, I hope??

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

Eh sue me

who the hell are you??? wasn't i jus talkin with that 250 somethin' fella?

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

cheeze it... it's the cyber cops/moms.

LMAO!!!!!! that is an epic smiley!

noche_caliente · December 5th, 2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

cheeze it... it's the cyber cops/moms.

and what are you having, my dear ??? something loaded with alcohol, I hope??

Trying to get me drunk so you can take advantage of me? HAAAAA! Not going to happen

I don't drink except on the very rare occasion - I'll stick with ginger ale please, thanks!

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Trying to get me drunk so you can take advantage of me? HAAAAA! Not going to happen

I don't drink except on the very rare occasion - I'll stick with ginger ale please, thanks!

Sure, let me pour that for you behind this bar... heh, heh...

ooops, clumsy me... careful... I may have spilled some rum in there by mistake while I was a pourin'.

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

LMAO!!!!!! that is an epic smiley!

you should check out the smilies that Alex has assembled.. they are awesome! freshen that up for ya?

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

who the hell are you??? wasn't i jus talkin with that 250 somethin' fella?

I am TwoHundred50R i just decided to use my regular screenname in zee forums

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you should check out the smilies that Alex has assembled.. they are awesome! freshen that up for ya?

oh wow Im gunna have a blasty blast on this forum! haha

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

I am TwoHundred50R i just decided to use my regular screenname in zee forums

oh wow Im gunna have a blasty blast on this forum! haha

oh,oh... looks like I just kid the kid loose in the candy store!!

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

oh,oh... looks like I just kid the kid loose in the candy store!!

tehe

all hail the smileys

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

tehe

all hail the smileys

put the smilies down and get back to your drink...

vonbeezy · December 5th, 2008, 08:40 PM

going to get it now actually ! signing off

kkim · December 5th, 2008, 08:42 PM

party on!

vonbeezy · December 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM

VeX · December 6th, 2008, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbeezy

nice use of the smileys there bud
but i think this one fits you best

Whaaat? This one is all me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Good thing this is a virtual drink seeing as you JUST posted that you're 19...

Ruh-Roh! You're busted. Looks like you have another 2-years of being a tea-totaler

And Patron is an expensive way to get a nasty hangover and a permanent distaste for tequila... You'll see

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

party on!

I need to pick up some tasty lager's or porters

VeX · December 8th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Whoa! I just noticed Bone_Head lives in Jensen Beach

I used to pass through Jensen Beach a LOT (I lived in Stuart, Florida for years)...

It seems that 99% of people on the forums from Florida are from like Daytona, Miami, Gainsville, Tallehasse, etc. Hrmm

(Random thought for the minute)

Kurosaki · December 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM

What is going on in this thread?

kkim · December 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM

anything that pops into your head...

Alex · December 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM

If you have to ask....

VeX · December 8th, 2008, 08:15 PM

A little bit of partying is a what is going on over here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

kkim · December 8th, 2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeX

A little bit of partying is a what is going on over here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

daz pretty funnay...

December 3rd, 2008, 12:35 AM	#1
VeX That's me! Name: TJ Location: Ames, IA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Tis blue), 2008 CBR600RR Posts: 454	T.S.I.Y.O.O.T.P.T.R.T. - Thread! The Super Important Yet Often Overlooked Thread Pertaining To Random Thoughts: It took a lot of brainstorming, but I think that's probably the best name for this thread. I figure there ought to be a thread for random thoughts or conversations that don't fit into the regular "topic" construct (yes even in the "Off-Topic" forum). ... So I was going to post that I got my ZX-6R master-cylinder and lever in and was waiting on the reservoir next before I started taking things apart. I didn't want to create a whole thread just for that little update, so I justified it with creating THIS thread to post such random thoughts!

December 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM	#38
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December 3rd, 2008, 12:38 AM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol... what are you doing with it? why the need to change?

December 3rd, 2008, 01:06 AM	#4
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	you really feel the bike needs more braking power??? ... seems fine to me, but i guess if i raced it would be a diff story. interested to hear how it all turns out. been so lazy lately.. haven't even gotten around to tearing the bike down to drill the slides.

December 5th, 2008, 03:30 AM	#9
VeX That's me! Name: TJ Location: Ames, IA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Tis blue), 2008 CBR600RR Posts: 454	Yup yup. I emailed one of Galfer's distributors about getting a new brake hose, but the master cylinder connection needs to be at a 90 degree angle instead of straight (The ZX6r M/C connects on the bottom). The distributor emailed me back saying it took her a while to figure out exactly what I was trying to do (ALL I need is a regular hose, but one banjo fitting just needs to be a 90 degree fitting instead of a straight fitting )... She gave me Galfer's phone number and said I have to go through them for custom brake lines. Sheesh! It's always the simple things.

December 5th, 2008, 03:53 AM	#10
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	how long is that going to take?

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camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	You could make your own line if you really wanted, but that will probably be more expensive.

December 5th, 2008, 05:58 PM	#13
vonbeezy Professional Newb Name: Hunter Location: Richmond, VA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08' Lime Ninja 250r :) Posts: 34	i love....lamp

December 5th, 2008, 06:59 PM	#15
vonbeezy Professional Newb Name: Hunter Location: Richmond, VA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08' Lime Ninja 250r :) Posts: 34	nice use of the smileys there bud but i think this one fits you best

December 5th, 2008, 07:15 PM	#16
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	friday night... who's drinkin what?? I'm buyin'... Ahhhhh!!!

December 5th, 2008, 07:30 PM	#18
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	hey, drink the cheap stuff with your brother... that's cool, but while online, live a little.

December 5th, 2008, 08:40 PM	#31
vonbeezy Professional Newb Name: Hunter Location: Richmond, VA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08' Lime Ninja 250r :) Posts: 34	going to get it now actually ! signing off

December 5th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#32
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	party on!

December 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM	#33
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December 8th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#35
VeX That's me! Name: TJ Location: Ames, IA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Tis blue), 2008 CBR600RR Posts: 454	Whoa! I just noticed Bone_Head lives in Jensen Beach I used to pass through Jensen Beach a LOT (I lived in Stuart, Florida for years)... It seems that 99% of people on the forums from Florida are from like Daytona, Miami, Gainsville, Tallehasse, etc. Hrmm (Random thought for the minute)

December 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM	#36
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December 8th, 2008, 08:15 PM	#39
VeX That's me! Name: TJ Location: Ames, IA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Tis blue), 2008 CBR600RR Posts: 454	A little bit of partying is a what is going on over here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4