March 27th, 2018, 12:33 PM | #1 |
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Ninja 400 Track/Race Bike Mods
Anyone else building one? I ordered up (pre-ordered) Ohlins suspension, Rapid Bike fuel controller, some Bonamici rearsets, and some Driven clip-ons. Still shopping for a full race exhaust and bodywork.
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March 27th, 2018, 02:43 PM | #2 |
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Looking forward to the build thread!
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March 31st, 2018, 09:53 PM | #3 |
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Been working a little on mine, clip-ons, front steel brake line, Speedcell battery is all so far. I have a hook up for full K-tech but can't afford to pull the trigger yet. Race in two weeks, hope to break some hearts.
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April 1st, 2018, 03:01 AM | #4 |
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April 1st, 2018, 10:09 AM | #5 |
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I was looking at Spears this morning, and they have a section up for 400 goodies already. Not sure how much of it is just 300 stuff that still fits the 400, but at least you know it'll fit.
https://www.spearsenterprises.com/ex400.html
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April 1st, 2018, 05:43 PM | #6 |
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How about some carbon-fibre wheels?
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April 2nd, 2018, 02:18 PM | #7 |
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I am curious about the Rapid Bike Controller. I had not heard of it so I looked last night, seems pricier than a Power Commander for example. Is there a benefit and whats your experience?
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April 5th, 2018, 04:35 PM | #8 |
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300 bits fit on a 400?
Anyone know if bodywork and suspension from a 300 fit on a 400? Or if a 400 motor will fit in a 300 chassis? :-)
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April 5th, 2018, 05:00 PM | #9 | |
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April 6th, 2018, 09:27 AM | #10 |
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I think no on the suspension, Ohlins has all-new part numbers for both shock and forks. The forks are 41mm now instead of 37mm, so that's a definite no. Not sure on engine, but probably not since it's a new frame.
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April 6th, 2018, 09:28 AM | #11 |
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I've only used them on Ducatis so far, but in that application they work very well and can tune more parameters than the PC-V can, and the auto-tune function is more advanced. I've had great luck with them.
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April 6th, 2018, 09:56 AM | #13 | |
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April 6th, 2018, 10:00 AM | #14 | |
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April 6th, 2018, 03:44 PM | #15 |
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Oil drain bolt, anyone know if its the same from the 250/300?
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April 21st, 2018, 07:24 AM | #16 |
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I'd look into upgrading the clutch, as there are already reports of track/race 400s having clutch problems.
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April 21st, 2018, 08:45 AM | #17 |
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^^ What kind of problems?
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April 23rd, 2018, 07:39 AM | #18 |
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yea what kind off problems and from who have you heard this from.
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April 23rd, 2018, 09:21 AM | #19 |
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April 23rd, 2018, 09:24 AM | #20 |
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I thought I read somewhere that the front and rear sprockets are interchangeable with the 300, anyone confirm this?
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April 23rd, 2018, 07:17 PM | #21 |
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Oh great - another Ninja with shifting problems. Please keep us updated on any shifting mods you do. I did the spring on my 300 and it solved most of the problems.
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April 24th, 2018, 04:54 AM | #22 | |
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I ride an N300 now, and thinking in getting a 400. The lack of interchangeability of aftermarket parts is discouraging. It looks like starting all over again. What I've heard so far is: Levers, OK. Sprockets, OK Pipe, not ok Power commander, not ok. Suspension, not ok. Clip ons, not ok. Again, what I've heard. I don't have an N400 |
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April 24th, 2018, 04:56 AM | #23 | |
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I get a false neutral quite often when riding high revs. Either up and down shifting. But maybe is just me screwing up. |
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April 24th, 2018, 03:30 PM | #24 |
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Yeah same on my 300, the upgrade from factorypro solved the issue though. I have a buddy who is working with a 400 in MotoA. He says they are getting a clutch upgrade through Spears racing, not sure what all that involves. He also says the sprockets are interchangeable and I should be able to confirm in the next day or two
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April 28th, 2018, 09:29 AM | #25 | |
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The heavier detent spring solved 99% of the problems though Last futzed with by GregS; May 2nd, 2018 at 05:00 PM. |
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April 28th, 2018, 10:28 AM | #26 | |
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April 29th, 2018, 11:38 AM | #27 | |
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May 1st, 2018, 08:50 AM | #28 |
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Finished my first race on the 400 this past weekend, and didn't have any shifting problems other than it's really easy to overwhelm that factory slipper clutch and have it "free wheel" for way too long. I'll be looking into an aftermarket slipper clutch for it.
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May 1st, 2018, 09:04 AM | #29 |
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Thank you for the updates, I haven't seen or heard all that much about the 400 yet other than it's stupidly fast compared to the 300
clutch issues are interesting, I hope they upgraded the transmission. Mine didn't show issues until later in it's life
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One thing I've noticed is that if I'm WOT and shift up, as the clutch engages it almost feels like it's spinning a bit before full engaging. Not sure if this is an imagined feeling, or if it's at all related to the slipper clutch, or similar to what you're describing. Just something I've noticed when riding hard.
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May 1st, 2018, 05:34 PM | #31 | |
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Can't speak to the 400, but on my 300 I barely notice the slipper - other than that I don't grease the rear on downshifts unless it's rainy. Personally, I like that I can pay a little less attention to the clutch on corner entry and just have the power pick back up when the revs are matching again. If you feel like it's too light, I'd definitely try stiffer springs before you go nuts on an aftermarket unit. Springs are cheap, and it might even help a bit with preventing false neutrals.
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May 7th, 2018, 07:36 PM | #33 |
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More on the shifting issues, there is quite a lengthy thread one of the other Ninja 400 forums, with several people having problems in everyday use.
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September 18th, 2018, 11:08 AM | #36 |
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Penguin school has N400 race bikes to try. I was going to yesterday but decided I was too tired and sore so I stayed on my 636. Their sister company woodcraft has lots of N400 stuff available.
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November 26th, 2019, 05:10 PM | #37 |
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I’m building a 400 for next year
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How's N400 build coming Bret?
Found some cool articles on 400. I hung out with Rocco at some races last season. He was racing both stock 400 and his MotoAmerica bike. https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/j...u-can-buy-one/ https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...pec-bike-test/ |
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