Neutral Light/Safety switch not working help.

RuthlessZ · February 8th, 2015, 10:05 PM

Hey guys sorry but this is frustrating, I've been doing work on my Ninja, and the Neutral switch has been broken since I wrecked, I was fine, I wrecked on the left side, and my left handle bars are bent slightly, how can I check the wires that go into the high beam control, do those effect the ground wire for the neutral light? I've checked all visible wires, but so many are just wrapped in the harness. I've grounded out the wire for the neutral light, and it still didn't work so I know it's not just the switch. Any advice on where to look?

JohnnyBravo · February 9th, 2015, 07:31 AM

I've looked around a bit and haven't found the answers I'd hoped for... I am of little use at electrics

Motofool · February 9th, 2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RuthlessZ

............ Any advice on where to look?

Hope this helps:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Electrical_%26_Lighting

http://faq.ninja250.org/images/0/07/..._Schematic.pdf

RuthlessZ · February 11th, 2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Hope this helps:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Electrical_%26_Lighting

http://faq.ninja250.org/images/0/07/..._Schematic.pdf

Yeah, I've followed the diagrams/the neutral wire to no avail. I wouldn't really care but it sucks to have to be on your bike for it to idle it.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

I've looked around a bit and haven't found the answers I'd hoped for... I am of little use at electrics

Yeah, I'm abysmal at electric diag as well. I may have to just ignore this.

Ghostt · February 11th, 2015, 05:51 PM

Stupid question time, did you physical check to bulb itself??

JohnnyBravo · February 11th, 2015, 07:52 PM

Get a multimeter an follow the pdf of the factory manual...
It's how I do when I don't wanna wait on my dad to fix stuff for me

JohnnyBravo · February 12th, 2015, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostt

Stupid question time, did you physical check to bulb itself??

He is right... Always start with the simplest things and do as motofool always says check each part and rule them out until all you are left with is your problem, or does chone say that, coulda been CC, whoever said it learned it from the army I'm sure though

Ghostt · February 12th, 2015, 10:11 AM

Just don't look at it, take out the multi-meter and start doing continuity checks, never assume a part should be fine.

csmith12 · February 12th, 2015, 10:13 AM

I would rather fight tigers in the dark with a switch than to sort out wiring. Uggg....

Ghostt · February 12th, 2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

I would rather fight tigers in the dark with a switch than to sort out wiring. Uggg....

Not me, but that does sound like fun though.

If you take your time, and physical & meticulous check things, it's a lot easier than people think, often times people make it more difficult than the problem is.

They start unwrapping the harness, cutting things, etc.... most of the times is unneeded and unwarranted, start with the easy stuff first, and then work your way up, looking for a wore spot in the harness is another good clue.

Most of the times I have found on motorcycles it's as simple as a bad bulb, dirty, or bad switchs, or a bad or corroded connector, investing in a basic multi-meter, a can of contact cleaner, and connector grease.

Just to give you an idea what you should look for, not necessarily these brands.

JohnnyBravo · February 12th, 2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

I would rather fight tigers in the dark with a switch than to sort out wiring. Uggg....

I usually require things before I go to the trouble of of testing all the wires and doodads if I'm sure it is a writing issue... You wouldn't believe how many boats I rewired in the army

Ghostt · February 12th, 2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

I usually require things before I go to the trouble of of testing all the wires and doodads if I'm sure it is a writing issue... You wouldn't believe how many boats I rewired in the army

No doubt

cuong-nutz · February 12th, 2015, 12:51 PM

Did you check to see if the wire is plugged in the neutral switch under the front sprocket cover?

It's pretty common (for me at least) for the clutch switch to go bad. You can take them apart and rebend the tabs so a good contact be made.

JohnnyBravo · February 12th, 2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostt

No doubt

You wouldn't believe how many motors they blew either... No fault of the manufacturer though, a few people knew how to adjust the governors to get all the power out, and then they let idiots drive the boats

We really did need more power to keep the bridges from floating off down the Tigris and Euphrates

InvisiBill · February 13th, 2015, 11:31 AM

It's a really simple circuit. The bulb gets power from the same (brown/blue?) wire that powers all the warning lights and the gauges themselves. It grounds via the green wire through the neutral switch.

Check the contacts at the bulb. You should have 12V on the one for the brown/blue wire anytime the ignition is switched on. You should have ground on the green wire's contact whenever the bike is in neutral.

February 8th, 2015, 10:05 PM	#1
RuthlessZ ninjette.org newbie Name: Jon Location: Pittsburgh Join Date: Dec 2014 Motorcycle(s): 05 Ninja 250R Posts: 5	Neutral Light/Safety switch not working help. Hey guys sorry but this is frustrating, I've been doing work on my Ninja, and the Neutral switch has been broken since I wrecked, I was fine, I wrecked on the left side, and my left handle bars are bent slightly, how can I check the wires that go into the high beam control, do those effect the ground wire for the neutral light? I've checked all visible wires, but so many are just wrapped in the harness. I've grounded out the wire for the neutral light, and it still didn't work so I know it's not just the switch. Any advice on where to look?

February 9th, 2015, 07:31 AM	#2
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I've looked around a bit and haven't found the answers I'd hoped for... I am of little use at electrics __________________________________________________

February 11th, 2015, 05:51 PM	#5
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February 11th, 2015, 07:52 PM	#6
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Get a multimeter an follow the pdf of the factory manual... It's how I do when I don't wanna wait on my dad to fix stuff for me __________________________________________________
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February 12th, 2015, 10:11 AM	#8
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Just don't look at it, take out the multi-meter and start doing continuity checks, never assume a part should be fine. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

February 12th, 2015, 10:13 AM	#9
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I would rather fight tigers in the dark with a switch than to sort out wiring. Uggg.... __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 12th, 2015, 12:51 PM	#13
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Did you check to see if the wire is plugged in the neutral switch under the front sprocket cover? It's pretty common (for me at least) for the clutch switch to go bad. You can take them apart and rebend the tabs so a good contact be made. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

February 13th, 2015, 11:31 AM	#15
InvisiBill EX500 full of EX250 parts Name: Bill Location: Grand Rapids-ish, MI Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '18 Ninja 400 • '09 Ninja 500R (selling) • '98 VFR800 (project) • '85 Vulcan VN700 (sold) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Aug '15	It's a really simple circuit. The bulb gets power from the same (brown/blue?) wire that powers all the warning lights and the gauges themselves. It grounds via the green wire through the neutral switch. Check the contacts at the bulb. You should have 12V on the one for the brown/blue wire anytime the ignition is switched on. You should have ground on the green wire's contact whenever the bike is in neutral. __________________________________________________ * Unregistered, I'm not your mom and I'm not paying for your parts, so do whatever you want with your own bike. *

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