Does too much oil cause problems?

blink · June 17th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Would it be possible that me having too much oil (the little oil window is probably more than 100% full, as in over the window a bit) in the engine be causing my temp lamp to constantly turn on? Even after riding for not tooooo long ~15-20 min.

Bike is stock, everything stock stock stock! Except cosmetics =p

Also today I pulled up to a stop sign, bike shut off and oil lamp came on along with temp light =[

Alex · June 17th, 2011, 10:01 PM

/moved to new-gen tech

Snake · June 17th, 2011, 10:12 PM

I'm not realy sure if that would be the problem but I highly reccomend that you drain some oil out and see if the problem persists.

DaBlue1 · June 18th, 2011, 05:10 AM

According to the SM, too much oil can cause the bike to overheat, as well as too high a viscosity, or poor quality oil. You should also check if your coolant. is low. Drain out the excess oil (do not try to siphon it off). Also check to make sure the fan is coming on.
Does the bike shut off all the time or this a one incident? The oil and temp light should come on with the engine not running and go off as soon as the bike is running.

geeker · June 18th, 2011, 06:50 AM

Too much oil is just as bad as not enough. If the crank can bathe in the oil, it will cause it to foam during engine operation. The air bubbles reduce oil pressure. I assume the excess friction causes the temperature to increase.

Boom King · June 18th, 2011, 02:44 PM

I don't think you should ever need to fill it that close to the max line. Right in the middle of the two lines on that window is where I leave my oil level. Never had issues.

kaiserz · June 18th, 2011, 05:35 PM

someone told me that "it will go BOOM!".

00NissanNinja · June 18th, 2011, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker

Too much oil is just as bad as not enough. If the crank can bathe in the oil, it will cause it to foam during engine operation. The air bubbles reduce oil pressure. I assume the excess friction causes the temperature to increase.

Yep, too much oil increases the possibility of cavitation which can cause temperature increases as well as possible engine damage.

Boom King · June 18th, 2011, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiserz

someone told me that "it will go BOOM!".

wtfh4xx · June 18th, 2011, 06:07 PM

^^^ LOL

I just went out and drained my excess oil, I knew I had just a tad too much in there.
Came out to be about a cups worth.

Oil now sits at about 1/16-1/8" below full line when bike is level.

Snake · June 19th, 2011, 05:15 AM

Have you ran the bike yet to see if the problem has gone away?

blink · June 19th, 2011, 09:15 PM

I'm going to drain to excess tommorow, haven't been riding much so should be fine =]

Thanks to everyone's help!

HorizonXP · June 20th, 2011, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blink

I'm going to drain to excess tommorow, haven't been riding much so should be fine =]

Thanks to everyone's help!

Don't siphon it out with anything, you run the risk of dropping it into the engine. I read a case of someone dropping a plastic straw in there. He stupidly ran the engine with it in, but got lucky when he was able to pull it out after, unscathed.

Drain the oil into a clean pan, and refill the engine with that oil, obviously with the right amount this time.

Snake · June 20th, 2011, 03:33 PM

No need in draining it completely. Let some drain out and then quickly screw the plug back in.

June 17th, 2011, 09:51 PM	#1
blink Always. Name: Alex Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '05 GSX-R600 Posts: A lot.	Does too much oil cause problems? Would it be possible that me having too much oil (the little oil window is probably more than 100% full, as in over the window a bit) in the engine be causing my temp lamp to constantly turn on? Even after riding for not tooooo long ~15-20 min. Bike is stock, everything stock stock stock! Except cosmetics =p Also today I pulled up to a stop sign, bike shut off and oil lamp came on along with temp light =[ __________________________________________________ blink-182

June 17th, 2011, 10:01 PM	#2
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June 18th, 2011, 06:07 PM	#10
wtfh4xx Opinionated individual :) Name: SecretNinjaMan Location: Nor Cal Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninjette Special Edition (red/black) Posts: 342	^^^ LOL I just went out and drained my excess oil, I knew I had just a tad too much in there. Came out to be about a cups worth. Oil now sits at about 1/16-1/8" below full line when bike is level. __________________________________________________ Yoshi slip on, shimmed 2 washers, zip tie throttle mod, pre-load #2, snorkel delete 2010 SE 250R! Miles in the saddle: 1000

June 19th, 2011, 09:15 PM	#12
blink Always. Name: Alex Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '05 GSX-R600 Posts: A lot.	I'm going to drain to excess tommorow, haven't been riding much so should be fine =] Thanks to everyone's help! __________________________________________________ blink-182

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June 17th, 2011, 10:12 PM	#3
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I'm not realy sure if that would be the problem but I highly reccomend that you drain some oil out and see if the problem persists.

June 18th, 2011, 05:10 AM	#4
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	According to the SM, too much oil can cause the bike to overheat, as well as too high a viscosity, or poor quality oil. You should also check if your coolant. is low. Drain out the excess oil (do not try to siphon it off). Also check to make sure the fan is coming on. Does the bike shut off all the time or this a one incident? The oil and temp light should come on with the engine not running and go off as soon as the bike is running.

June 18th, 2011, 06:50 AM	#5
geeker ninjette.org guru Name: Richie Location: Arkansas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally, 2015 Ninja ZX6R 636, 2014 Ninja 1000, 2013 Ninja 300 (sold), 2011 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 479	Too much oil is just as bad as not enough. If the crank can bathe in the oil, it will cause it to foam during engine operation. The air bubbles reduce oil pressure. I assume the excess friction causes the temperature to increase.

June 18th, 2011, 02:44 PM	#6
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I don't think you should ever need to fill it that close to the max line. Right in the middle of the two lines on that window is where I leave my oil level. Never had issues.

June 18th, 2011, 05:35 PM	#7
kaiserz There's a limit to s2pdty Name: A.D. Location: NoVa the burg Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250r ninja (sold) Posts: A lot.	someone told me that "it will go BOOM!".

June 19th, 2011, 05:15 AM	#11
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Have you ran the bike yet to see if the problem has gone away?

June 20th, 2011, 03:33 PM	#14
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	No need in draining it completely. Let some drain out and then quickly screw the plug back in.