New Rider, need advice

Suave · June 15th, 2011, 07:36 PM

I just got my 2008 ninja 250r a couple of weeks ago... love it. But I wanna beef it up a little, make it a little more unique and my own. I don't like how quiet it is, but Imma gonna fix that with MGP growler exhaust. My question is: How does MGP growler, Dynojet stage 2, and K&N filter sound?

Some people tell me its a good idea, and others say its bad. My main objective is to make my bike louder and hopefully a little quicker in the process. Feel free to educate me, I really don't know much about bikes (yet).

kkim · June 15th, 2011, 08:02 PM

n/m

Suave · June 19th, 2011, 07:05 AM

I don't know what I'm supposed to take from that link lol Some people are saying that if i get an exhaust and filter that I'll stunt my acceleration by running it lean, which to my knowledge is too much air in the F/A mix. Now some people are saying if I get the Dynojet stage 2 kit. It'll fix my running lean issue from all the extra airflow. Just wondering if that is true.

almost40 · June 19th, 2011, 08:19 AM

jet kit, full exhaust. They go hand in hand. Put on 1 at a time and you will have the bike rich or lean. Should be done at the same time to keep the a/f ratio where you want it.

setasai · June 19th, 2011, 10:53 AM

I would put the exhaust on first... make sure it runs... then add the jet kit because if you mess anything up doing both mods at the same time, you'll be wondering which one is causing the issue. Many of done several mods at the same time and it's a pain to figure out which one caused the problem.

eddiekay · June 19th, 2011, 11:21 AM

Seeing that you bought an '08...I'm guessing it's used.
What will it cost you in time and money to make it louder and faster. and will it then be loud enough and fast enough ?
No BS, no lie....take the money and do an MSF course, buy some used leathers. Do soemthing with the $$ that will help you use the bike to it's fullest. A pipe and jet will go with the bike if you sell it...an MSF or leathers you get to keep. IMHO, of course.

kkim · June 19th, 2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Suave

I don't know what I'm supposed to take from that link lol Some people are saying that if i get an exhaust and filter that I'll stunt my acceleration by running it lean, which to my knowledge is too much air in the F/A mix. Now some people are saying if I get the Dynojet stage 2 kit. It'll fix my running lean issue from all the extra airflow. Just wondering if that is true.

sorry, wrong thread got linked. don't understand how that happened.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52566&

greatwhiteninja · June 19th, 2011, 07:37 PM

i would say exhaust and intake you will probably need a jet kit or at least shim the carbs..i removed the snorkel and modded my stock exhaust and shimmed the carb .. made a noticeable difference in acceleration and sound!

Suave · June 24th, 2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eddiekay

Seeing that you bought an '08...I'm guessing it's used.
What will it cost you in time and money to make it louder and faster. and will it then be loud enough and fast enough ?
No BS, no lie....take the money and do an MSF course, buy some used leathers. Do soemthing with the $$ that will help you use the bike to it's fullest. A pipe and jet will go with the bike if you sell it...an MSF or leathers you get to keep. IMHO, of course.

Yes, sir. I've already bought all my gear, and I did a MSF course a week before I got my bike. I got the bike used with 2k miles on it, and I know I'm gonna buy a bigger bike sometime next year, I just thought it would make sense to start out with something a little smaller.

The only thing is, I can't stand that I have to revv it to 6k to get any power out of it and then when I hit 9 or 10k then all my power drops. I'm trying to work out a way to get more power throughout the entire RPM range. Some are saying Jet kit, air filter, and exhaust will help out a lot with that. I really don't care much about top speed- I just enjoy those fast take offs at lights

It would be fun to have a little more power on the lower RPM range

So, I've been debating whether I should do anything at all to it, because I know by July 2012, CBR600rr or Zx6r. Not sure which one yet...

greg737 · June 24th, 2011, 11:09 AM

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My main objective is to make my bike louder

If you do this, I'd suggest: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Earplugs

almost40 · June 24th, 2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Suave

Yes, sir. I've already bought all my gear, and I did a MSF course a week before I got my bike. I got the bike used with 2k miles on it, and I know I'm gonna buy a bigger bike sometime next year, I just thought it would make sense to start out with something a little smaller.

The only thing is, I can't stand that I have to revv it to 6k to get any power out of it and then when I hit 9 or 10k then all my power drops. I'm trying to work out a way to get more power throughout the entire RPM range. Some are saying Jet kit, air filter, and exhaust will help out a lot with that. I really don't care much about top speed- I just enjoy those fast take offs at lights

It would be fun to have a little more power on the lower RPM range

So, I've been debating whether I should do anything at all to it, because I know by July 2012, CBR600rr or Zx6r. Not sure which one yet...

At least you started on the "right" bike. lol
Spend your money on a trackday or 2. LEARN LEARN LEARN.

Suave · June 26th, 2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by almost40

At least you started on the "right" bike. lol
Spend your money on a trackday or 2. LEARN LEARN LEARN.

Yea, I'm taking it to the track AFTER I get my frame sliders

I do need to learn, Id like a wide open space to just do fast turns so I wont panic when I do it on the road! I was riding on US129 the other day and went through a turn too fast and I didnt know the road was still wet there (in the shade and under the trees) and panicked; the back of my bike was fishtailing all over the place

that was almost a disaster. When I regained control of the bike I was in the wrong lane and about to cruise off of a mountain. (so very important lesson learned that night- dont try to keep up with others).

About how much does it cost to go to the track?

Buffalony · June 26th, 2011, 06:10 PM

SLLR......!!

Slow....Look.....Lean.....Roooollll on the throttle

One of the valuble things taught in an MSF course, not during a rough day at the track.

Money that could save your life. spend it on the course. Learn to ride before you upgrade to something that sounds meaner. If it sounds meaner you'll ride more agressivly.

Boom King · June 26th, 2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Suave

When I regained control of the bike I was in the wrong lane and about to cruise off of a mountain.

Whoa!

Did you have to change your pants after? Glad you hear that nothing bad really happened.

Suave · June 27th, 2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Boom King

Whoa!

Did you have to change your pants after? Glad you hear that nothing bad really happened.

No, but it sure as hell humbled me. I can't describe the feeling on helplessness that one has as the back tire is shifting left and right while you are running out of road to slide on lol

@Buffalony: I did take the course, I know the mechanics going into corners. On that first week of riding on my own though, I had the idea if I go as fast as the guy in front of me id be fine... Big mistake. Those guys were going way too fast and I didn't realize until I was about to glide down the hillside.

The reason I wanna learn how to corner faster: if I misjudge a corner again and come in too fast, I know what to do; rather than just slam the rear brake for some stupid reason

June 15th, 2011, 07:36 PM	#1
Suave ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Maryville, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 94	New Rider, need advice I just got my 2008 ninja 250r a couple of weeks ago... love it. But I wanna beef it up a little, make it a little more unique and my own. I don't like how quiet it is, but Imma gonna fix that with MGP growler exhaust. My question is: How does MGP growler, Dynojet stage 2, and K&N filter sound? Some people tell me its a good idea, and others say its bad. My main objective is to make my bike louder and hopefully a little quicker in the process. Feel free to educate me, I really don't know much about bikes (yet).

June 15th, 2011, 08:02 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	n/m Last futzed with by kkim; June 19th, 2011 at 11:37 AM.

June 19th, 2011, 08:19 AM	#4
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	jet kit, full exhaust. They go hand in hand. Put on 1 at a time and you will have the bike rich or lean. Should be done at the same time to keep the a/f ratio where you want it. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

June 26th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#13
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	SLLR......!! Slow....Look.....Lean.....Roooollll on the throttle One of the valuble things taught in an MSF course, not during a rough day at the track. Money that could save your life. spend it on the course. Learn to ride before you upgrade to something that sounds meaner. If it sounds meaner you'll ride more agressivly. __________________________________________________

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June 19th, 2011, 07:05 AM	#3
Suave ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Maryville, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 94	I don't know what I'm supposed to take from that link lol Some people are saying that if i get an exhaust and filter that I'll stunt my acceleration by running it lean, which to my knowledge is too much air in the F/A mix. Now some people are saying if I get the Dynojet stage 2 kit. It'll fix my running lean issue from all the extra airflow. Just wondering if that is true.

June 19th, 2011, 10:53 AM	#5
setasai ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Brian Location: Detroit, MI Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Green Posts: A lot.	I would put the exhaust on first... make sure it runs... then add the jet kit because if you mess anything up doing both mods at the same time, you'll be wondering which one is causing the issue. Many of done several mods at the same time and it's a pain to figure out which one caused the problem.

June 19th, 2011, 11:21 AM	#6
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	Seeing that you bought an '08...I'm guessing it's used. What will it cost you in time and money to make it louder and faster. and will it then be loud enough and fast enough ? No BS, no lie....take the money and do an MSF course, buy some used leathers. Do soemthing with the $$ that will help you use the bike to it's fullest. A pipe and jet will go with the bike if you sell it...an MSF or leathers you get to keep. IMHO, of course.

June 19th, 2011, 07:37 PM	#8
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	i would say exhaust and intake you will probably need a jet kit or at least shim the carbs..i removed the snorkel and modded my stock exhaust and shimmed the carb .. made a noticeable difference in acceleration and sound!