blinkers don't work

Domagoj · January 3rd, 2011, 06:48 AM

Hello,

blinkers stopped working today, with no obvious reason. I turned the bike on and they simply don't work. Was all normal last time.

Fuse is ok, there is 12V on it.
There is no voltage on blinkers' connectors, left or right, regardless of the switch position. I tried the front blinkers only.

I have the wiring diagram, and as far as I can tell (and honestly I can't really

) only thing that can be wrong after the fuse is the relay or the switch.
Somehow i doubt that the switch can suddenly stop working.

So I suppose the relay is the problem. Another problem is that I don't know where it is on the motorcycle. Does anyone know? If I manage to find it (if someone tells me

), what would happen if I shorted the contacts of the relay? Would the blinkers just light up without blinking? I guess that would mean that the relay is dead and that i need a new one.

Help!

randomwalk101 · January 3rd, 2011, 09:53 AM

check the flasher relay

00NissanNinja · January 3rd, 2011, 10:16 AM

Yep check the relay, its under your seat and on a braket to itself I believe on the left most side of the frame. You should try cleaning it first with electrical cleaner. Do the turn signals stay lit or do they stay off?

Domagoj · January 3rd, 2011, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja

Yep check the relay, its under your seat and on a braket to itself I believe on the left most side of the frame. You should try cleaning it first with electrical cleaner. Do the turn signals stay lit or do they stay off?

They stay off all the time. I will go take a look now, if it is under the seat i don't know how to recognize it, will look better this time

Still don't recognize it. Can someone mark the area I should be looking? Here is a photo.

kkim · January 3rd, 2011, 11:36 AM

blinker relay is directly in the center of this photo w/ the white connector on the bottom.

Domagoj · January 3rd, 2011, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

blinker relay is directly in the center of this photo w/ the white connector on the bottom.

kkim, you are wonderful!
so many helpful posts, so many...

okay, so now I know where to find it. How should I check if it works? I will try to clean the contacts.
If I just bridge the wires on the relay connector, should the blinkers turn on and stay on or will something bad happen? What is the proper way of checking the relay?
I will try your suggestions tomorrow, its complete darkness outside now.

randomwalk101 · January 3rd, 2011, 12:52 PM

try to short the connector after you remove the flasher..light should go on. If it does, flasher is toasted and need to buy new one...if it doesn't after you short it then something else is in the circuit is broken.
if flasher is bad, go to autoparts store and pick up one for about $5...if you want dealer then it'll be like $30.

00NissanNinja · January 3rd, 2011, 01:56 PM

Dang kelly you are quick lol, I was just about to snap a photo. yeah try cleaning it first (just in case since I had quite a few relays work fine again after some cleaning with electrical cleaner) then do what randomwalk says.

Domagoj · January 4th, 2011, 09:49 AM

update:

The relay is fine, the switch is fine... What is not fine is some contact somewhere. I think it is the contact in the fuse box.

There is always current on orange wire but sometimes there is not on the brown one. Fuse is 100% ok, I switched some of them to be sure.

Anyway, I froze today testing this out in the open. Blinkers worked briefly when I sprayed WD generously over the contacts. When I put everything back in place they didn't work again

I will wait for weekend and recheck everything when I get to a garage. It's too cold.

Thank you for your help!

Domagoj · January 7th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Problem seems to be solved.
Cleaned all contacts with contact cleaner, and they work now. Cleaned all other fuses just in case.

I guess it would be a good idea to check contacts occasionally, especially if the bike is out in the open at all times.

00NissanNinja · January 7th, 2011, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domagoj

Problem seems to be solved.
Cleaned all contacts with contact cleaner, and they work now. Cleaned all other fuses just in case.

I guess it would be a good idea to check contacts occasionally, especially if the bike is out in the open at all times.

Cool, better a near free fix then to buy relays

scotty · January 8th, 2011, 12:03 AM

Just to add to the post.

I had a problem a few months back with my left front turn blinker would'nt turn on. The rear would just stay lit up. Thought the bulb was blown, but it turned out to be fine. What had happen was I had taken off the fairings the day before and while I was disconnecting the blinkers to take off the fairings, I had pulled out a wire on the connector to the fairing. I just pushed the wire back into it and it was good to good.

January 3rd, 2011, 06:48 AM	#1
Domagoj ninjette.org guru Name: Domagoj Location: Rijeka, Croatia Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2009 Posts: 396	blinkers don't work Hello, blinkers stopped working today, with no obvious reason. I turned the bike on and they simply don't work. Was all normal last time. Fuse is ok, there is 12V on it. There is no voltage on blinkers' connectors, left or right, regardless of the switch position. I tried the front blinkers only. I have the wiring diagram, and as far as I can tell (and honestly I can't really ) only thing that can be wrong after the fuse is the relay or the switch. Somehow i doubt that the switch can suddenly stop working. So I suppose the relay is the problem. Another problem is that I don't know where it is on the motorcycle. Does anyone know? If I manage to find it (if someone tells me ), what would happen if I shorted the contacts of the relay? Would the blinkers just light up without blinking? I guess that would mean that the relay is dead and that i need a new one. Help!

January 3rd, 2011, 10:16 AM	#3
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Yep check the relay, its under your seat and on a braket to itself I believe on the left most side of the frame. You should try cleaning it first with electrical cleaner. Do the turn signals stay lit or do they stay off? __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

January 3rd, 2011, 01:56 PM	#8
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Dang kelly you are quick lol, I was just about to snap a photo. yeah try cleaning it first (just in case since I had quite a few relays work fine again after some cleaning with electrical cleaner) then do what randomwalk says. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

January 8th, 2011, 12:03 AM	#12
scotty ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Scott Location: Carlise Ohio Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): Yahama v star 650 classic Posts: A lot.	Just to add to the post. I had a problem a few months back with my left front turn blinker would'nt turn on. The rear would just stay lit up. Thought the bulb was blown, but it turned out to be fine. What had happen was I had taken off the fairings the day before and while I was disconnecting the blinkers to take off the fairings, I had pulled out a wire on the connector to the fairing. I just pushed the wire back into it and it was good to good. __________________________________________________

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randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	check the flasher relay

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kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	blinker relay is directly in the center of this photo w/ the white connector on the bottom.

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randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	try to short the connector after you remove the flasher..light should go on. If it does, flasher is toasted and need to buy new one...if it doesn't after you short it then something else is in the circuit is broken. if flasher is bad, go to autoparts store and pick up one for about $5...if you want dealer then it'll be like $30.

January 4th, 2011, 09:49 AM	#9
Domagoj ninjette.org guru Name: Domagoj Location: Rijeka, Croatia Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2009 Posts: 396	update: The relay is fine, the switch is fine... What is not fine is some contact somewhere. I think it is the contact in the fuse box. There is always current on orange wire but sometimes there is not on the brown one. Fuse is 100% ok, I switched some of them to be sure. Anyway, I froze today testing this out in the open. Blinkers worked briefly when I sprayed WD generously over the contacts. When I put everything back in place they didn't work again I will wait for weekend and recheck everything when I get to a garage. It's too cold. Thank you for your help!

January 7th, 2011, 05:58 PM	#10
Domagoj ninjette.org guru Name: Domagoj Location: Rijeka, Croatia Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2009 Posts: 396	Problem seems to be solved. Cleaned all contacts with contact cleaner, and they work now. Cleaned all other fuses just in case. I guess it would be a good idea to check contacts occasionally, especially if the bike is out in the open at all times.